Huge learning curve for wheels?

[grenadeshark]

Wow, I thought the steering wheel would instantly improve my times. I found out just how wrong I was.

It seems you cannot correct in the way you can with the controller. Yes, its easier for sweeping turns and high speed, but the throttle on/off slow turns and anything that requires lots of changes in direction are tough.

Anyways, hats off to you guys. I have found that I am about 2.5 seconds slower on a good lap then I used to be.

I solute you guys who are doing it with the wheel. Its not the advantage I always thought it was.

 

[Kryz11]

It is the advantage. Sure there are some TOP playrs that are using PADS, but mostly I see people use wheels on TOP 10 ghosts.. All you need is to really Practice the heck out of it. As well it's more fun once you get use to it.

 

[DaddyVDUB]

Dont worry you will get used to it. You are no longer just playing a game your driving. Its a whole new experience PRACTICE PRACTICE etc. Play around with the force feedback settings the setups on cars may need some tweeking.

 

[Kryz11]

Oh for me and few others, the fastest way to learn is really on Professional mode and every single AID off. Because the harder you fail, the faster you get up. As well make sure in DFP wheel settings , makes sure you turn off power assist. It will improve the feel a bit.

 

[zed300]

Two questions:How long have you had the wheel?
Have you ever driven with a wheel?

If you have never driven with a wheel and you have only just got it,be a little more patient with yourself,try not to expect too much at first.

Take it as smoothly as you can,if you setup your cars yourself, some setting may be different with a wheel to achieve the drivability.

For correction of oversteer, you must be aware that it is about to happen to be able to control the car,as you stated it IS difficult at first to catch.

Good Luck:tup:

 

[Nicko]

Getting used to a wheel does take some time. The first time I used my wheel, I was hopeless. (Note: I've been using a controller for nearly 10 years!) However, after about a week or so, I adjusted to the wheel and my times improved significantly.

So, my advice to you would be, keep persisting at your new wheel, and after a while you will get the feel of it and you will notice an improvement in your times. Good luck! 👍

 

[NLxAROSA]

Like said above: you can't expect to be instantly at the same level of something you have used for years with something you have never used before.

It took me about a week or two to get to the same level, after that my times improved beyond anything I could hope to do with a controller.

And you are absolutely right: the amount of help you get when using a controller is astonishing. With a wheel you must do everything yourself.

 

[safc2403]

I'm 2 days into using the G25 and i must admit i'm struggling. I've managed to get within a couple of seconds of my best lap once or twice but i'm still fiddling with settings.

I started with FFB on 10 which nearly ripped me arms off. went down to 5 and am now on 1. I'm finding that when i turn a corner i end up turning too much and then spin out when over correcting myself. It's doing my head in but i'm determined to get there!!

Enjoying the better feel though!!

 

[grenadeshark]

Well, after one night of playing, I am about 2 seconds a lap behind my regular times. But, I have already improved 300%. I am now able to finish almost every lap without going off the track!!!!

On another note, one of the things I have found the most difficult is after a series of quick hairpin turns, I really have to grab the hell out of the wheel so it turn on its own due to the in game physics. This really makes it feel like a real car and I like that.

On another note, I have changed the setting to simulation in the GTP options and I run no aids. Should I change that setting to pro, taking it off amatuer made my life 10000% easier.

 

[DaddyVDUB]

Might want to turn the corrective steering off.

 

[jswilli1]

Well, after one night of playing, I am about 2 seconds a lap behind my regular times. But, I have already improved 300%. I am now able to finish almost every lap without going off the track!!!!

On another note, one of the things I have found the most difficult is after a series of quick hairpin turns, I really have to grab the hell out of the wheel so it turn on its own due to the in game physics. This really makes it feel like a real car and I like that.

On another note, I have changed the setting to simulation in the GTP options and I run no aids. Should I change that setting to pro, taking it off amatuer made my life 10000% easier.

Its great to see that you stuck with the wheel and gave it a chance, Like anything else it takes practice practice practice. The reward is a better experience while playing GT5P or any other driving game.👍

 

[safc2403]

Might want to turn the corrective steering off.

How would I do that?? Is that power assisted steering??

 

[DaddyVDUB]

How would I do that?? Is that power assisted steering??

From the race menu screen,next to the quick tune icon there is a little dial looking icon,where you can choose pro or normal physics,Traction control etc, It has different settings strong mild or off choose mild or off. And it would be best to turn power assisted steering to off.

 

[Kryz11]

Why people say at 10 setting it's ripping peoples arms off?

I play at 10 and its not that strong, and I dont have huge muscles. Or maybe my wheel is getting old?

 

[jswilli1]

I play at 10 also and it doesn't feel that strong, my G25 is only a few months old. My '97 Mustang GT has really tight steering, maybe thats why the G25 doesn't feel strong?

 

[SkylineObsession]

I bought the Driving Force GT a few weeks back but have thought about returning it a few times, or onselling it. The learning curve is huge compared to the controller, especially for drifting. I'm slightly better at drifting slower cars (like the Bimmer Ti thingy) but usually end up spinning out after passing throught the drift zone and trying to straighten up.

Anyone else use this wheel? Any advice for settings? I'm not really into individual car setup, so thats no real help.

Overall though, i'm finding GT5 quite hard (with wheel and controller). Theres a few races i just can't get first in (a few 'pass every car in a lap' races) which is frustrating, as i have managed it in every other GT game other than GT1.

But yeah. After shelling out $250 for the wheel, i kinda want to get used to it, but keep putting it back in its box in frustration. :s

 

[grenadeshark]

I bought the Driving Force GT a few weeks back but have thought about returning it a few times, or onselling it. The learning curve is huge compared to the controller, especially for drifting. I'm slightly better at drifting slower cars (like the Bimmer Ti thingy) but usually end up spinning out after passing throught the drift zone and trying to straighten up.

Anyone else use this wheel? Any advice for settings? I'm not really into individual car setup, so thats no real help.

Overall though, i'm finding GT5 quite hard (with wheel and controller). Theres a few races i just can't get first in (a few 'pass every car in a lap' races) which is frustrating, as i have managed it in every other GT game other than GT1.

But yeah. After shelling out $250 for the wheel, i kinda want to get used to it, but keep putting it back in its box in frustration. :s

250 for the driving force GT?? I found one brand new on ebay for 110 shipped.

On another note, i saw someone wrote to turn power assisted steering off. When readin the tooltip, it says with it on, it reduces the resistance when making sudden turns? Is that not a good thing for online play?

 

[SkylineObsession]

$250 NZD.

I bought mine at the local EB Games shop. Even though they can be quite expensive, but they matched the price of another shop selling the wheel, so.

 

[Mad94d]

$130AUD for a DFGT now, I got mine for $180.

It took me about a week too improve on my sixaxis times. The wheel is so much easier once you get used to it.

 

[TakeshiSkunk]

Honestly, after the first day I felt like I was driving much better with my DFGT than I ever did with the DS2. The learning curve was pretty nasty in other games, mostly the Kaido Battle series, and drifting needs to be completely relearned, but I found grip racing to be extremely intuitive.

 

[safc2403]

Why people say at 10 setting it's ripping peoples arms off?

I play at 10 and its not that strong, and I dont have huge muscles. Or maybe my wheel is getting old?

Because I was oversteering and spinning out the wheel was trying to re centre itself and would whip out of my hands.

 

[AntinOz]

Wow, one evening of playing with my DFGT and I dont think I could go back to DS3. I find I have much more control, especially over the throttle. Still learning to brake though, and to not overcorrect with the wheel. I have turned almost all the assists off that I found necessary with the DS3.

Ant.

 

[jswilli1]

Wow, one evening of playing with my DFGT and I dont think I could go back to DS3. I find I have much more control, especially over the throttle. Still learning to brake though, and to not overcorrect with the wheel. I have turned almost all the assists off that I found necessary with the DS3.

Ant.

Congrats! it just takes some time to get used to but it makes the experience better in the long run.

 

[bobzombie]

cause i still cant handle the amuse S2k and the blitz with driving aids off in gt5p with a wheel, ive restarted a Aspec career in gt4 , with the progression of the races/cars , i quess ive gotten better racing with a wheel

am i the only one? who went back too the basics lol

 

[safc2403]

Well having had my G25 for about a week i'm now starting to get back up to near my pad times. I deleted my gt5p save game and started again from scratch. It's so much more fun playing with a wheel rather than a pad.

Wife still thinks i'm sad mind!! Plus she's mad with me cos i pinched her laptop table and the G25 has very nearly broken it already. Time to build my own stand methinks!!!

 

[Cougar23]

I have only had my new DFGT for under a week and have gotten used to it very quickly. I used to have a MadCatz MC2 but the DFGT is soooo much better. I am still 2 seconds slower with the DFGT than a DS2 but am gradually getting faster.