Hyundai Ioniq & Kia EV Thread

05XR8 · Jul 13, 2023

lilcat89
I didn't say it wasn't cool. It's very cool concept of a hot hatch EV that frankly I wish VW would've done with the e-Golf. There are a lot of very cool and neat features about this N EV. It will weigh over 1000 pounds more than the Type-R, with no signs of lightweighting anywhere in a "track focused" hatchback. It will probably also cost north of 70k USD as well, which isn't really accessible to most.

My post wasn’t directed at your opinion. I was(please forgive me) weighting in on one of the negatives of EVs. As a side, I did see that Caterham Project V. So, we know someone will buck the trend.
As for the Hyundai, maybe the more sporting EVs they sell, gives rise to them building new models with lower weight.

lilcat89 · Jul 13, 2023

05XR8
My post wasn’t directed at your opinion. I was(please forgive me) weighting in on one of the negatives of EVs. As a side, I did see that Caterham Project V. So, we know someone will buck the trend.
As for the Hyundai, maybe the more sporting EVs they sell, gives rise to them building new models with lower weight.

Fair enough. Weight is the literal elephant in the room when EVs come up to me. It's not very efficient to be hauling 5-6k pounds of metal down the road, at least to me. The main fear with the Hyundai, in my mind, is the price will turn people away from the N version, making it a flop and discouraging other attempts at that market.

05XR8 · Jul 13, 2023

lilcat89
Fair enough. Weight is the literal elephant in the room when EVs come up to me. It's not very efficient to be hauling 5-6k pounds of metal down the road, at least to me. The main fear with the Hyundai, in my mind, is the price will turn people away from the N version, making it a flop and discouraging other attempts at that market.

For sure. I love light weight vehicles. Lightest I’ve owned was my ‘07 Daihatsu Charade 3-door(700kg class). The ‘08 Mazda2 I’m driving is just over 1000kg. I’d love to own an EV, with low weight, that isn’t a golf cart on the highway.

I can see that price point as a negative in the USA. Over here, buyers are willing to pay the premium for top models anyway. Won’t contribute much to the global market, but when it arrives( over $100k AUD), as much as I see current N models, I’m sure I’ll see enough Ioniq Ns on the road for Hyundai to justify shipping them.

Keef · Jul 14, 2023

ProjectWHaT
RN22e crashes at Goodwood. Occupants okay according to tweets I saw

Saw this earlier and freaked out, honestly I thought with that much speed and weight it could've easily barrelled through a crowd of people and been an absolute disaster. Luckily Goodwood thought of this and that particular corner had like 5 rows of hay bails. It went through all of them, damn. This easily could've been the worst motorsports disaster in decades.

Omnis · Jul 17, 2023

Seems Hyundai Kia is letting their EV design language infect the rest of the lineup. Y'all see the new Santa Fe? It's a reverse buttaface. That rear end is :ill:

Keef · Jul 18, 2023

Omnis
Seems Hyundai Kia is letting their EV design language infect the rest of the lineup. Y'all see the new Santa Fe? It's a reverse buttaface. That rear end is

It's stunning and excellent. Hyundai's directive was for designers to get rid of a corporate face and make each car unique, and they've not only done that but also somehow made each car unique within the entire market. By far the best design department in the industry right now and it isn't close.

Omnis · Jul 19, 2023

Keef
It's stunning and excellent. Hyundai's directive was for designers to get rid of a corporate face and make each car unique, and they've not only done that but also somehow made each car unique within the entire market. By far the best design department in the industry right now and it isn't close.

I like what they've done to the Sonata and Elantra. But the rear end of thaet Santa Fe is a big miss. Woof, it's bad.

SestoScudo · Jul 19, 2023

MedigoFlame
641HP with boost, 601HP without and 545lb-ft of torque. Looking like the hot hatch we always wanted out of the Ioniq 5, but of course still crossover sized. So much more attractive than the other N products. Not sure how I feel about the simulated manual shifting with the simulated fuel cutoff.

N-Credible! Hyundai's 2024 Ioniq 5 N Debuts with 641 Horsepower

Hyundai's N performance-tuning arm turns the screws on the 10Best winning Ioniq 5 to give it more of everything.

www.caranddriver.com

Edit: Finally a rear wiper too! Almost missed that part.

So beautiful!!!

But the Ioniq 5 N will go for 100k plus in Australia.

Too pricey. Im already looking into buying a new car mostly looking into Hyundai especially the I20N hatch, I30N hatch, I30 Sedan Hybrid and the I30N Sedan.

Keef · Aug 7, 2023

This is NOT an official render. But it should be.

Especially if it were gas powered. If I had the choice between a Mustang, 400Z, and this, the choice is obvious.

ProjectWHaT · Aug 25, 2023

Design reveal of the production EV5 with powertrain info reveal later on their "EV Day" event

2025 Kia EV5 Revealed As Family-Friendly Compact SUV With Concept Car Looks

Touted as being a car that’s been designed and engineered to meet the needs of millennial families, the Kia EV5 offers seating for five, “exceptional versatility, and outstanding comfort.”

www.motor1.com

The all-new Kia EV5 compact electric SUV has been revealed by the South Korean manufacturer at the Chengdu Motor Show in China. And in typical Kia slash Hyundai slash Genesis fashion, we’ll have to wait for more details about the brand’s second zero-emissions SUV until October, when the brand will hold its EV Day event.

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Dimensions and technical specifications are yet to be published by the company, but we already know from information published by the Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) that the EV5 is 181.7 inches long, 73.8 in wide, and 67.5 tall, with a wheelbase of 108.2 in. By comparison, the Tesla Model Y is 187 in long, 75.6 in wide, and 63.9 in tall, with a wheelbase of 113.8 in.

Furthermore, according to The Korean Car Blog, the electric compact SUV will be powered by an 82-kilowatt-hour battery enabling a driving range of up to 372 miles.

The Kia EV5 will go on sale toward the end of the year in China, with other markets soon to follow.

The pictures make the car look massive despite the fact that's a compact SUV. According to the leak, it's 181.7 inches long. In comparison, the Rav4 is 190.9 inches. There's also an interesting hump where the center console should be

Eunos_Cosmo · Aug 26, 2023

ProjectWHaT
Design reveal of the production EV5 with powertrain info reveal later on their "EV Day" event

2025 Kia EV5 Revealed As Family-Friendly Compact SUV With Concept Car Looks

Touted as being a car that’s been designed and engineered to meet the needs of millennial families, the Kia EV5 offers seating for five, “exceptional versatility, and outstanding comfort.”

www.motor1.com

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The pictures make the car look massive despite the fact that's a compact SUV. According to the leak, it's 181.7 inches long. In comparison, the Rav4 is 190.9 inches. There's also an interesting hump where the center console should be

That would make it 1" shorter than the Ioniq 5....Hyundai/Kia are doing some weird stuff with proportion these days!

ProjectWHaT · Sep 6, 2023

First images of the Kia EV4

Kia EV4 Electric SUV Spied For First Time [UPDATE]

Here is our first look at the Kia EV4, suggesting this electric model would slot below the existing EV6 and upcoming EV5.

www.motor1.com

Given that the EV5 is supposed to be Rav4 sized, I guess this would be closer to the Soul?

Keef · Sep 7, 2023

ProjectWHaT
Design reveal of the production EV5 with powertrain info reveal later on their "EV Day" event

2025 Kia EV5 Revealed As Family-Friendly Compact SUV With Concept Car Looks

Touted as being a car that’s been designed and engineered to meet the needs of millennial families, the Kia EV5 offers seating for five, “exceptional versatility, and outstanding comfort.”

www.motor1.com

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The pictures make the car look massive despite the fact that's a compact SUV. According to the leak, it's 181.7 inches long. In comparison, the Rav4 is 190.9 inches. There's also an interesting hump where the center console should be

Have we decided how big this thing is? It looks like a Telluride but I feel that it's more like a CX-5.

ProjectWHaT · Oct 10, 2023

First drive impressions of the Ioniq 5 N

The "N e-Shift" mode is really cool. It simulates a DCT by cutting torque as you "shift" with the paddles and you can bounce off an artificial rev limiter if you don't shift

Every day we inch closer to Alex Roy's satirical article, which I believe is the true end game for electric sports cars

The 2036 Porsche 911E First Drive

Reporting from the future, Alex Roy declares the hybrid Porsche 911 is dead—long live the electric 911.

www.thedrive.com

Eunos_Cosmo · Oct 10, 2023

ProjectWHaT
First drive impressions of the Ioniq 5 N

The "N e-Shift" mode is really cool. It simulates a DCT by cutting torque as you "shift" with the paddles and you can bounce off an artificial rev limiter if you don't shift

Every day we inch closer to Alex Roy's satirical article, which I believe is the true end game for electric sports cars

The 2036 Porsche 911E First Drive

Reporting from the future, Alex Roy declares the hybrid Porsche 911 is dead—long live the electric 911.

www.thedrive.com

Been waiting for somebody to do this. I wonder if the powerband feels like an ICE?

Keef · Oct 10, 2023

Eunos_Cosmo
Been waiting for somebody to do this. I wonder if the powerband feels like an ICE?

Didn't Mazda just patent some sort of EV transmission shifter?

Anyways, using software to emulate different ICE drivetrain characteristics is something I'd actually be interested in for EVs. It would introduce a lot more character and engagement into the cars, as well as driving technique. Those three things are most of what makes driving fun, besides the sound of course.

05XR8 · Oct 10, 2023

I figured engineers would find a way to make EVs fun to drive. Now, dealers get to make more money for shift app updates.

Eunos_Cosmo · Oct 11, 2023

The other thing this allows is for EVs to actually drift which isn't really possible other than Rimac's super sketch looking drift mode.

Keef · Oct 11, 2023

Eunos_Cosmo
The other thing this allows is for EVs to actually drift which isn't really possible other than Rimac's super sketch looking drift mode.

I don't understand what you mean by "actually drift". An EV doesn't need any modes to drift at all, it just needs engineers to not be nerds. Single rear motor driving an LSD, simple. Dual-motor axles and lines of code are never going to properly simulate mechanical response.

ProjectWHaT · Oct 14, 2023

As promised, here's the production version of the EV5. It will not come to the US as it will only be built in South Korea and China

The 2025 Kia EV5 Seems Like A Winner: But Is It Coming To America?

The midsize electric crossover Kia EV5 was unveiled in production form for the first time ever at Kia’s inaugural EV Day event in Seoul this week.

www.motor1.com

It slots in below the performance-focused EV6 crossover, borrowing looks from the flagship EV9 crossover with what should be a more attainable price. During a roundtable discussion, Kia President and Co-CEO Ho-Sung Song said it’s targeted to range from about $35,000 to $50,000, but no other pricing details were immediately available.

The automaker now says it might be coming to North America, but no mention of the US directly.

"Kia is considering to export the EV5 to North America starting from 2025,” the automaker said in a statement. “There is no plan to produce the EV5 in North America."

Kia said the EV5 will come in three forms: Standard, Long Range, and Long Range AWD, with the latter packing the customary dual-motor setup. Interestingly enough, and unlike the other Kia cars on Hyundai Motor Group’s E-GMP platform, the EV5 is front-wheel-drive, a Kia America spokesperson said.

The Standard cars boast a 64-kilowatt-hour battery pack, while the Long-Range cars get an upgrade to 84 kilowatt-hours. On China’s Combined Charging and Load Cycle (CLTC) standards, the EV5 gets 530 kilometers (330 miles) of range for the Standard car; 720 kilometers (447 miles) for the Long Range front-wheel-drive car; and 650 kilometers (403 miles) for the Long Range AWD model. Kia didn’t say how that might translate to an EPA-certified electric range.

Interestingly, unlike the other cars in the E-GMP family, the EV5 will only come with a 400-volt electric architecture – not the 800-volt system those cars helped pioneer and something that’s increasingly becoming an industry standard.

Kia Concept EV4 Sedan

The Kia EV4 Concept Is The Electric Stinger Sequel We Deserve

Unveiled at Kia’s EV Day event in Seoul this week, the EV4 Concept is one of two new vehicles seen for the very first time by the Korean automaker.

www.motor1.com

Unveiled at Kia’s EV Day event in Seoul this week, the EV4 Concept is one of two new vehicles seen for the very first time from the Korean automaker – the EV3 Concept was the other.

Habib said that as with Kia’s other EV offerings, space was the top priority with the EV4 Concept’s design. Going almost SUV-like in ground clearance allowed designers to maximize roominess. “It’s not a low sedan like we know them today,” he said. “We want to find a way to keep lower, sleeker vehicles in the future, not just design-wise but in terms of utility.”

Kia Concept EV3

The Kia EV3 Concept Can Charge Your E-Bike Right From The Back Seat

The Kia EV3 Concept was one of several new electric cars Kia showed off at its inaugural EV Day event in Seoul.

www.motor1.com

The EV3 Concept was one of several new electric cars Kia showed off at its inaugural EV Day event in Seoul, with the others being the production version of the EV5 crossover and the new EV4 Concept sedan. But only the EV3 Concept has the ability to stow and charge what you might call an "electric micro-mobility solution."

Visually, the EV3 Concept follows the same playbook as some of its big brothers: it’s basically an EV9 or EV5 but about the size of a Kia Niro. It’s going to be a crucial part of Kia’s plans to vastly expand its EV lineup to more than 1 million global sales by 2026 and to ultimately have EVs make up almost 40 percent of its global sales by 2030. That should also make the production EV3 the smallest member of the Hyundai Motor Group’s E-GMP platform yet, though there’s no word yet on battery sizes or specs – including whether it will use the 800-volt architecture for ultra-fast charging like the EV6 and EV9 or only go with a more conventional 400-volt architecture like the EV5 will have.

By the way, if you’re curious about where this leaves the Kia Niro EV, Kia’s global product team leader Min Woo Park told me it’s not going anywhere. "We still believe there are customers who will look for more affordable EVs, like Niro. We’ll still keep our strategy [going] for that," he said.

TrdScionxB2 · Jan 12, 2024

GranTurNismo · Feb 21, 2024

The Kia EV9 seems to be already hit with steep dealer markups, as much as by $7,000. This is in spite of Kia offering dealers $2,000 to stick with MSRP pricing.

Kia EV9 Already Getting $7,000 Markups From Some Dealers

That’s even though Kia offered dealers $2,000 to stick to the MSRP. Surprised?

insideevs.com

Would you pay nearly $80k for a Kia?

FT-1 · Mar 4, 2024

Ioniq 5 facelift revealed - Introduces N Line trim and the option to be specced with the 84 kWh battery from the Ioniq 5 N

2025 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Facelift Debuts With Larger Battery And New N Line Trim | Carscoops

The revised lineup of the EV inherits some of the features introduced by the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N, including the 84 kWh battery pack and a rear wiper

www.carscoops.com

GranTurNismo · Mar 18, 2024

The 641hp Ioniq 5 N will be priced at a modest $67,475 in the US, will be "fully loaded" with few options available.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a60179011/2025-hyundai-ioniq-5-n-price/

05XR8 · Mar 19, 2024

I saw a black Ioniq 6. Couldn’t get a pic for the car spotting thread. Haven’t seen much news about it.

Eunos_Cosmo · Mar 20, 2024

05XR8
I saw a black Ioniq 6. Couldn’t get a pic for the car spotting thread. Haven’t seen much news about it.

I've been seeing them quite a bit here in NorCal. Little odd looking, but not bad.

05XR8 · Apr 2, 2024

AudiMan2011 · Apr 9, 2024

Possibly early prototype for the production Ioniq 6 N out testing. Will likely share the same 650hp powertrain as the Ioniq 5 N with all the fancy drive modes as well.