I hate quitters...

Those who quit are those who are emotionally-charged when racing. You can use that to your advantage. Anyway, at higher DR/SR levels there are less quitters.
 
I hate quitting but I do it regularly, especially on a Sunday! I suspect that's because a lot of the competitors at the weekend are probably 10 years old!

The reason i quit is because a lot of the time, after spending time and effort to get a good grid position, after half a lap I have been T-boned or apexed off the track and drop from say 3rd to last. The sportsmanship part of GTS doesn't seem to be having the desired effect because some of the back markers seem to think they need to ram everyone else off the track on the first lap to win. I hope the next update will account for that cos these people ( I'm being polite here ) are ruining the best online racing experience there is, for everyone who takes it seriously. It would be nice if there could be some reporting to the "stewards" so they can be penalized appropriately.

Strangely, most of the culprits seem to be from Brazil. Ayrton and Fellipe don't race like that! ha ha. I have noted some of their user names but I suspect it's not a good idea to post them here.
 
I have been out of work lately and started racing on week days, day time. I found there to be a lot less and often no bad driving, which is what makes me think the culprits who ruin the online racing are probably school kids. I'm glad you pointed out that quitting doesn't effect the SR as I did wonder.
 
Ken Pile
Dumb answer
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How so? is it affecting the results of your own race in a negative way?

GrillMeister
I care, when u start a full lobby, and half, or even more leave for whatever reason, and u end up with only 3 or 4 players left.
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Haven't seen this in sport mode at all, I would expect it to happen in the other lobbies though since you really don't know what kind of people you are up against anyway.
 
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MikeV27
How so? is it affecting the results of your own race in a negative way?
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Yes. I want to have a fun race and it's ruined after 10 seconds.

I said dumb answer because you are missing the point. Some of us don't want our race ruined by cheaters
 
Darwock
I have quit in the past. In turn 1 of a 4 lap race starting from pole you could get smashed into a wall and pick up 25+ seconds of penalties. The race is done already, serving the penalty would not mitigate the loss of SR so in those cases I wouldn't waste any further time.

I stopped doing 4 lap races.
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No but the clean sectors run for the rest of the race would help mitigate the SR drop.

Ragequitting, in the long run, is one of the worst things you could possibly do if you want to rank up SR and escape the playpen.
 
Darwock
I have quit in the past. In turn 1 of a 4 lap race starting from pole you could get smashed into a wall and pick up 25+ seconds of penalties. The race is done already, serving the penalty would not mitigate the loss of SR so in those cases I wouldn't waste any further time.

I stopped doing 4 lap races.
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Me 2. Exactly this. Only doing the 10 lap races. I'm sure it'll add to my life expectancy...
 
edit - sorry, the quote didn't stick. This is to the guy that replied to me

That's what I'm saying - in a 4 lap race that is not the case. I've come a cropper at the hands of some imbecile on lap one, stuck it out to prevent SR loss and been demoted a rank anyway. It's not worth it.
 
Well to try to answer your question why humans do this, I don't think it's a strange behaviour really. When we end up in troublesome situations we either choose to stay and fight or we try to escape and rid ourselves of the overwhelming frustration. The latter is not constructive in the long run, but it works effectively in the heat of the moment. The brain will not make decisions based on rational thoughts in this moment because it is exclusively looking for ways to terminate the negative feelings as quick as possible. This is what results in the so called "rage quit".

A person who don't feel these overwhelming emotions, or a person who has exercised their way of constructive thinking, will probably interrupt these impulses with more rational decision making. These people will think in terms of "Can I learn something from this if I continue?" or "Maybe I'll hurt someone elses experience if I do this?". The act of racing puts this thinking to the test though as it's not about team based thinking and it's also not a genre that is merciful to people who make small mistakes. You can go from first to last position in the blink of a second, and anyone can feel devastated by such an experience really. But how we cope with it, that's the real difference that sets us apart.
 
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Tekku
Well to try to answer your question why humans do this, I don't think it's a strange behaviour really. When we end up in troublesome situations we either choose to stay and fight or we try to escape and rid ourselves of the overwhelming frustration. The latter is not constructive in the long run, but it works effectively in the heat of the moment. The brain will not make decisions based on rational thoughts in this moment because it is exclusively looking for ways to terminate the negative feelings as quick as possible. This is what results in the so called "rage quit".

A person who don't feel these overwhelming emotions, or a person who has exercised their way of constructive thinking, will probably interrupt these impulses with more rational decision making. These people will think in terms of "Can I learn something from this if I continue?" or "Maybe I'll hurt someone elses experience if I do this?". The act of racing puts this thinking to the test though as it's not about team based thinking and it's also not a genre that is merciful to people who make small mistakes. You can go from first to second position in the blink of a second, and anyone can feel devastated by such an experience really. How we cope with it, that's the real difference that sets us apart.
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You are overthinking this way too far :P

In sprint racing you are almost never racing against the entire field. You are racing against the few people in front (if any) and few people behind you. If an amateur rams me out of the track in turn one (there is a difference between ramming and trading paint), then I have nothing to gain from staying in that race. I'm not going to race my way up and experience the same again from the same amateur driver. It's better for my personal experience to find another cleaner race.

Also, if GT Sport were more simulator and less arcade, both the rammer and I would have been out of the race because our cars were damaged. In other words: it's actually more realistic that people rage quit when they get rammed off track because we are out of the race either way.

I don't care about anyone else's feelings about me quitting from a destruction derby ... Luckily for me, it's way less destruction derby with the rating I have now (although there are a few S-rated drivers that for some reason don't know how to drive).
 
PrinceMG
You are overthinking this way too far :P

In sprint racing you are almost never racing against the entire field. You are racing against the few people in front (if any) and few people behind you. If an amateur rams me out of the track in turn one (there is a difference between ramming and trading paint), then I have nothing to gain from staying in that race. I'm not going to race my way up and experience the same again from the same amateur driver. It's better for my personal experience to find another cleaner race.

Also, if GT Sport were more simulator and less arcade, both the rammer and I would have been out of the race because our cars were damaged. In other words: it's actually more realistic that people rage quit when they get rammed off track because we are out of the race either way.

I don't care about anyone else's feelings about me quitting from a destruction derby ... Luckily for me, it's way less destruction derby with the rating I have now (although there are a few S-rated drivers that for some reason don't know how to drive).
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Tbh, I think what I wrote is kind of basic. But I was perhaps referring more to rage quitters, rather than quitters in general. I can see myself in your own examples; sometimes I rage quit because of frustration and sometimes I just quit because I don't feel like I'm gaining anything from the experience.
 
I've quitted the race two times, in the first case i received a telephone call so i preferred to quit instead continue the race with the risk of hitting some one else.
The second time yesterday at Bathurst, i started in ~8th position and i missed the first turn losing time, during the that first lap i wasn't concentrate and I hit the walls various times so at the end (going out at "the chase") i was so nervous that the best thing for me and the others (expecially) was quit.

My CS level dropped from S to A , i took three races to regain the CS level S ..

IR
 
I'm a quitter (probably quitted 25% of my races), I have the right to evade upsetting when some idiots plays GT like a destruction derby game and the system doesn't protect me... I've managed to reach SR A, just to see it happening as often as before (at least to me).
15 minutes trying my best and some times making a Pole, just to be bounced like a pinball in the first set of corners... or worse, in the final corner of the race (in special those races in short circuits with slow cars, that is almost imposible to open a big gap between you and the second place guy)
 
Quitting is the route to ruining the experience for everyone... When you quit due to a bad/dirty driver losing you positions, you are rewarding the bad/dirty driver, that bad/dirty driver will keep driving that way.
The only way to beat bad/dirty drivers is to beat them on the track and then they will be the one that quits, throw them a dummy or just let them go and watch them crash off the track.
I've watched people retaliate to someone bumping into them and then quitting, if they were to watch their replay, they would have seen that the car bumping into them was bumped by someone else who made a silly mistake, so an innocent guy gets bumped by two people.

The system is not going to protect anyone, where and how you drive is your only way of trying to protect yourself. Know the track like the back of your hand, knowing the fast lap line is not enough, knowing how fast you can go off the racing line is where its at, I practice defensive laps as much as I practice hot laps, as I rarely get the chance to make wide entries without leaving a massive door for someone to dive into.
 
I haven't ventured too much into the online here in GT Sport, but I did a few times in PC2, and I had the same thing happen to me. They would quit when I was turning laps 3 seconds faster than they were, and I posted something about it on their forum, and I was accused of being a "hotdogger" and a "showoff" so I was told I got what I deserved...LOL Yeah whatever!!
 

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