I just can't stand this overly aggressive driving style everyone seems to have

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More than half the cars in my recent manufacturers race (Maggiore GP) had a red SR ratings when the results showed up on screen. All of them were A at the start and some of them were down to C or even D at the end. At the first corner a Ferrari decided to dive bomb the inside line with about 4-5 cars going through. He managed to push his way ahead but he barely kept up in the ongoing corners. I tried to overtake him at the last corner but then he drove into me and I started to spin and was dropped from 5th place to 18th. There was also a GTR driver who intentionally pushed people away in straight lines and at corner exits. He got me two times unfortunately and made me lose a couple of positions that I had regained. The SR system worked in my favour though, which was fortunate. I got a blue S rank at the end.

I'm in no way the best or cleanest driver around, but this kind of aggressive behaviour that I'm seeing more and more of really has to stop. It has ruined more than half of my nations and manufacturers races by now. It's almost always the same; the first lap is the crazy lap where every kind of dirty tactic seems to be valid, as long as it gains you at least one position. On very, very rare occasions a person will actually back off when a situation is too hot. I have so much respect for these kind of people. They understand that opportunities will come again and it's not necessary to force them.

I had a really cool moment on the Maggiore race where I reacted to a guy braking early (clip below). I had no idea that this would occur and I had no intentions of overtaking him as he was too far ahead. I just reacted with instinct and steered hard to the right as fast as I could, and then the opportunity presented itself. This nails the bottom line I believe: be patient and keep it cool and favourable situations like this will present themselves. Force them with aggression and it will only cause trouble to everyone involved.

 
InebriHATED
Online gaming / the I dont give a crap trolls / the I absolutely need to be in 1st guys. Thats why all the crud driving, Tekku. No avoiding it other than lobbies with friends and known clean racers.
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Yeah I guess you're right. Gonna try my luck with lobbies after the test season. And maybe I can try to learn how to avoid these players better. At the moment they always seem to get me, as if I had a giant target painted on my back.
 
This is the reason that the SR rankings must be harder for a driver to obtain the higher ranks and once in the higher ranks contact with other vehicles should be even a more heavily weighted factor in retaining the rank in a class such as the S or A class. Scrubbing off penalties in race needs to be abandoned as well.

Then perhaps in the higher classes respectful clean racing will then be the norm including into the first corner on the first lap.
 
He was recovering after the corner though (the video was cut when he was just 0.046sec "behind") due to having a better exist speed. Did you manage to keep the position after the following section, especially the 3 next right handers? He was just beside you, on your right.
 
Tekku
More than half the cars in my recent manufacturers race (Maggiore GP) had a red SR ratings when the results showed up on screen. All of them were A at the start and some of them were down to C or even D at the end. At the first corner a Ferrari decided to dive bomb the inside line with about 4-5 cars going through. He managed to push his way ahead but he barely kept up in the ongoing corners. I tried to overtake him at the last corner but then he drove into me and I started to spin and was dropped from 5th place to 18th. There was also a GTR driver who intentionally pushed people away in straight lines and at corner exits. He got me two times unfortunately and made me lose a couple of positions that I had regained. The SR system worked in my favour though, which was fortunate. I got a blue S rank at the end.

I'm in no way the best or cleanest driver around, but this kind of aggressive behaviour that I'm seeing more and more of really has to stop. It has ruined more than half of my nations and manufacturers races by now. It's almost always the same; the first lap is the crazy lap where every kind of dirty tactic seems to be valid, as long as it gains you at least one position. On very, very rare occasions a person will actually back off when a situation is too hot. I have so much respect for these kind of people. They understand that opportunities will come again and it's not necessary to force them.

I had a really cool moment on the Maggiore race where I reacted to a guy braking early (clip below). I had no idea that this would occur and I had no intentions of overtaking him as he was too far ahead. I just reacted with instinct and steered hard to the right as fast as I could, and then the opportunity presented itself. This nails the bottom line I believe: be patient and keep it cool and favourable situations like this will present themselves. Force them with aggression and it will only cause trouble to everyone involved.

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Nice reaction!

I know what you mean about the aggressive drivers. For me, it's hit or miss. Gr.4 races are always chaotic for me. Gr.3 races, the aggressive drivers usually calm down after a few laps. On the reverse Dragon Trail the other day, Wednesday? I was following in line running 5th on lap 1. Got shoved out of the way by 5 cars in the tight hairpin. At the bottom of the esses, the one you have to brake a little. All 5 shot off the track in a row. I just drove by and never saw them again. Wish I would have had a horn to honk at all the idiots lol.
 
Baconink
Sport isn’t as bad as the FIA championships have been. I think people hear points and lose their minds lol.
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The easiest way to game the system at this point is to explode your SR in the important events then just run a few daily events to get your SR back up. The system is fundamentally designed for honest people, those who are a bit over eager and/or inexperienced but willing to learn. The dishonest folks have found a way to get around the system.
 
Johnnypenso
The easiest way to game the system at this point is to explode your SR in the important events then just run a few daily events to get your SR back up. The system is fundamentally designed for honest people, those who are a bit over eager and/or inexperienced but willing to learn. The dishonest folks have found a way to get around the system.
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That is the sad truth. I’m always clean when I play up until some little **** knocks me around a few games in a row and then they get retaliation. Usually after I politely say something to them and if they don’t change their habits I shove their Ass off the track and continue to destroy them in lap time just to rub it in that they suck **** and are dirty and get what they deserve. Lol. I may sound horrible for that but I get great satisfaction out of punting the assholes right were they belong. I feel like I went on a little rant there. My bad lol
 
Johnnypenso
The easiest way to game the system at this point is to explode your SR in the important events then just run a few daily events to get your SR back up. The system is fundamentally designed for honest people, those who are a bit over eager and/or inexperienced but willing to learn. The dishonest folks have found a way to get around the system.
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I never really thought about it like that. Hopefully they will do something to prevent it.
 
A great way to get to S safety rating and to avoid first lap hell like you describe is: simply place zero trust in the other cars on track.

You do not know these people. You shouldn’t put your car in places where your livelihood depends on them not messing up their corner or braking point or track out point.

I as a rule never take an outside line around a corner with gravel or grass runoff side by side. If I have the inside line, I brake a little early and put half of my car on the kerb to avoid late braking from behind.

Good luck

Tekku
Yeah I guess you're right. Gonna try my luck with lobbies after the test season. And maybe I can try to learn how to avoid these players better. At the moment they always seem to get me, as if I had a giant target painted on my back.
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Tekku
More than half the cars in my recent manufacturers race (Maggiore GP) had a red SR ratings when the results showed up on screen. All of them were A at the start and some of them were down to C or even D at the end. At the first corner a Ferrari decided to dive bomb the inside line with about 4-5 cars going through. He managed to push his way ahead but he barely kept up in the ongoing corners. I tried to overtake him at the last corner but then he drove into me and I started to spin and was dropped from 5th place to 18th. There was also a GTR driver who intentionally pushed people away in straight lines and at corner exits. He got me two times unfortunately and made me lose a couple of positions that I had regained. The SR system worked in my favour though, which was fortunate. I got a blue S rank at the end.

I'm in no way the best or cleanest driver around, but this kind of aggressive behaviour that I'm seeing more and more of really has to stop. It has ruined more than half of my nations and manufacturers races by now. It's almost always the same; the first lap is the crazy lap where every kind of dirty tactic seems to be valid, as long as it gains you at least one position. On very, very rare occasions a person will actually back off when a situation is too hot. I have so much respect for these kind of people. They understand that opportunities will come again and it's not necessary to force them.

I had a really cool moment on the Maggiore race where I reacted to a guy braking early (clip below). I had no idea that this would occur and I had no intentions of overtaking him as he was too far ahead. I just reacted with instinct and steered hard to the right as fast as I could, and then the opportunity presented itself. This nails the bottom line I believe: be patient and keep it cool and favourable situations like this will present themselves. Force them with aggression and it will only cause trouble to everyone involved.

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Wow how did you move so quickly my car would’ve lost control and spun.
 
SoullessApples
Wow how did you move so quickly my car would’ve lost control and spun.
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Hard to see in the video perhaps, but I corrected the car as fast as I could so that it wouldn't lose its balance. I do most overtakes like this in F1 games and in this situation the F1 knowledge just kicked in. I didn't actually know that the car was going to respond this way, but I'm glad that it did.
 
I've been having pretty good clean racing in the daily races GR.3 (B/S). Though I don't play the days when it's on ovals.

Maybe the added competition of the cups where you only have one race makes people even more aggressive.

Like your avatar OP. Eraserhead!
 
In the Tokyo East races today on the Asian servers there was a guy with a really good qualification time (close to top 10) who had a really weird attitude in the races. I was usually placed 2nd after him. Despite having better pace than anyone and qualifying on pole, he would always try to swerve into cars approaching from behind him. He would lose places, then anytime he passed someone he would sacrifice his speed to sideswipe them instead.

He tried to block me as I slipstreamed him up to turn one, but I jinked out to the side and he missed me. In my rear view I then saw him turn into the car in 3rd and get totally wiped out, which kicked off the usual turn one pile-up.

I raced against him several times and he was dangerous, but usually easy to beat, because he would screw up his own race over and over trying to attack other cars.

Watching replays I think he was attempting to use the cars behind him to get a 'shunt-boost' on the long straights, and then try and crash anyone he overtook to prevent them coming back at him.

Edit - oh yeah, penalties - he had either a neutral or a blue SR after every race :/
 
A good SR should be much harder to get. It took me only 8 or 9 races to get an S rating. If it's this easy, it's no wonder people with good ratings seem to be driving with a wii remote.

Getting into an S Sportsmanship race should give you reassurance that everyone has worked hard to get that, and is truly a clean racer.
 
MikeTheHockeyFan
A great way to get to S safety rating and to avoid first lap hell like you describe is: simply place zero trust in the other cars on track.

You do not know these people. You shouldn’t put your car in places where your livelihood depends on them not messing up their corner or braking point or track out point.

I as a rule never take an outside line around a corner with gravel or grass runoff side by side. If I have the inside line, I brake a little early and put half of my car on the kerb to avoid late braking from behind.

Good luck
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I am all for this advice given here. Also on the start if you’re up in the front because of a good qualifying run then you should know that everyone behind is gonna try to dive bomb the first inside corner they can. I usually early brake and take that first inside myself so slow the divebombers down. Usually they slow down and catch themselves if there isn’t that so called opening. I say so called because no matter what you shouldn’t be trying to pass on the first or second corner of a lap. Most races are a few laps or more. Take your time and calculate accordingly. You get a better feel for your opponents. I usually start passing on lap 2 and after. I’ll pass before if I’m definitely faster than the guy ahead but I won’t just barrel him out of the way. Clean passing is some of the most fun I have in this game. I guess it’s a little mini game inside the races I have with myself. That and I’m always just trying to break my fastest lap. Lots of fun to be had if youre not only focused on winning. Hope to see more of you out on the track.

I’ve been having the most fun and best races the past few nights. Super clean and blisteringly fast being with guys like Setted and Sileighty. Those dudes are ridiculously fast, like alien. But you also have lots of super fast guys that are super dirty too. They make illegal blocks and brake check just to win which isn’t cool. This goes along with me saying to take a lap to analyze the other drivers and get a feel for what is possible for that given race. They all play out differently.

I feel like I went on a bit of a tangent there and I apologize lol. Have a good day all. Be safe and fast!
 
Johnnypenso
The easiest way to game the system at this point is to explode your SR in the important events then just run a few daily events to get your SR back up. The system is fundamentally designed for honest people, those who are a bit over eager and/or inexperienced but willing to learn. The dishonest folks have found a way to get around the system.
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I agree with you there but you have that in all online or competitive scenes. It is what it is. People always try to ruin a good thing. All we can really do is what we, the clean and fair ones have been doing and hope it all gets sorted out soon. Either through changes to the penalty system or them getting placed in lobbies they belong. Maybe a system like GTA5 has would work? Like a dunce lobby lol. Like get so many penalties pilled up that you have to play in lobbies with othe like minded dunces until your penalties wear off... that idea just came to me, it may work lol. I do feel your pain though but recently I’ve been in some super clean and reduculously fast rooms. I was with Setted all day the other day, man he is like a robot lol. He was always 1st in qually and me 2nd. Even though I wouldn’t make one single mistake at the end of 3 laps he would still be 5-7 seconds ahead of me... it was simply amazing and some of the most fun I’ve had. There was and I think always will be a few bad apples in he bunch, especially those damn Brazilians lol, so dirty.
 
I had the great experience yesterday of being in the daily Maggiore race, all drivers were B/S, and everybody's S rating was blue at the end of the race - just shows it can be done if you get the right drivers!

Norxman
I've been having pretty good clean racing in the daily races GR.3 (B/S). Though I don't play the days when it's on ovals.

Maybe the added competition of the cups where you only have one race makes people even more aggressive.

Like your avatar OP. Eraserhead!
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I've had some of my best races on the daily oval events (mainly Blue Moon Bay) - true you get some idiots, but they soon get left behind. Had a great race the other day where I swapped places 2 or 3 times per lap with another guy, we only touched once, left the last corner side by side, and he finally won by 0.022 seconds.....
 
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bone_tone
I had the great experience yesterday of being in the daily Maggiore race, all drivers were B/S, and everybody's S rating was blue at the end of the race - just shows it can be done if you get the right drivers!
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I’ve had plenty of races like that. It can be done and is a whole lot of fun. Especially when people let you pass when they know they’ve been beat.
 
InebriHATED
Good luck:tup:

I havent even looked at the list:lol:
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I think I'm just gonna stop trying. Had back to back races with crazy dirty drivers. Everyone is now willing to just play dirty and quickly re-up their SR just for a win. Sport mode is straight trash now :lol: Its sad, really.


Jerome
 
The full game seems to follow the pattern from the BETA where in the beginning everyone tried to race clean fearing the consequences but once learned how to play the system the behavior changed for the worst.
 

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