I want to Drift.
- Thread starter GamerHugo
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- 422
- Soulless_Vessel
- Soullessvessel
There is never going to be 1 consistency when it comes to something like car choice, there is no such thing as the "best" drift car. 
- 496
- deca_tarce
- Deca Tarce
If you asked me to pick one best beginner car I would probably say the S13...but seriously, any Silvia/Sileighty/180SX/240SX, RX7, or S2000 is fine to learn on.
You guys need to get past this whole "best" thing. If you're having trouble drifting don't look for an easier car to drift, just keep working until you get it.
You guys need to get past this whole "best" thing. If you're having trouble drifting don't look for an easier car to drift, just keep working until you get it.
- 795
- BEMBEMBOWBOW
- 496
- deca_tarce
- Deca Tarce
It's all personal preference. If you ask a specific driver why they pick a specific car, they can probably tell you.
The car you use to learn isn't necessarily going to be YOUR car, once you get the basics all worked out you'll probably end up experimenting until you find something that just clicks. I like the Lancer 1800GSR, for instance, because it's extremely light but very stable. The balance of the car works very well for me, I never feel like I'm getting ahead of or behind it, it just happens to sync up with my drifting style.
Word of advice, though, if someone ever says a car needs a lot of power, or recommends something that's ridiculously overpowered, they probably use it because they don't really know how to drift. It's easy to powerslide all over the place in a car that brakes traction whenever you hit the throttle, but proper technique involves deft management of weight transfer and traction. This is why it's important to start out on a lower powered car. Learn without the crutch of power over to fall back on, and once your basics are down it'll just be another tool at your disposal if you decide you'd like to move up to a high powered machine.
The car you use to learn isn't necessarily going to be YOUR car, once you get the basics all worked out you'll probably end up experimenting until you find something that just clicks. I like the Lancer 1800GSR, for instance, because it's extremely light but very stable. The balance of the car works very well for me, I never feel like I'm getting ahead of or behind it, it just happens to sync up with my drifting style.
Word of advice, though, if someone ever says a car needs a lot of power, or recommends something that's ridiculously overpowered, they probably use it because they don't really know how to drift. It's easy to powerslide all over the place in a car that brakes traction whenever you hit the throttle, but proper technique involves deft management of weight transfer and traction. This is why it's important to start out on a lower powered car. Learn without the crutch of power over to fall back on, and once your basics are down it'll just be another tool at your disposal if you decide you'd like to move up to a high powered machine.
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- NOS_Waster or GTP_NOS_Waster
- NOS Waster
We were talking about 4WD cars, not RWD. . .
- 795
- BEMBEMBOWBOW
- 795
- BEMBEMBOWBOW
- 1,282
- MidianGTX
Awesome thanks. One more question! What am I aiming for on the corners exactly? When racing I'll obviously start on the outside and aim for the apex but I'm guessing it's different for drifting... do I just stay in the middle or what?
- 422
- Soulless_Vessel
- Soullessvessel
Follow the same line you would when racing, or try to at least.
- 1,160
- Counter_Steer
I've had a G27 for over a year, and you're gonna tell me I'm wrong based on less than a day of experience?
- 496
- deca_tarce
- Deca Tarce
I think Autumn Ring Mini would be a little less frustrating to start on than Suzuka East. There's more track to work with and less grass and sand to drive through when you go off.
- 375
- Birmingham, UK
- GTP_The_Stalker
Hi guys.
This is a great thread for beginners such as myself to learn the basics from.
I intend to start drifting, or at least trying to, and after reading all the above advice, I've decided to go for the RX7 as a starter car.
What I wanted to know though is apart from adjusting the tow in/ out for front and rear tyres, what other suspension settings should I use?
Do I need to lower/ stiffen/ soften it or is the RX7 type A good as it is? Will I need to fit a LSD as well?
I'm guessing that Comfort Hard will be ok for this car. Is that correct?
Thanks:tup:
This is a great thread for beginners such as myself to learn the basics from.
I intend to start drifting, or at least trying to, and after reading all the above advice, I've decided to go for the RX7 as a starter car.
What I wanted to know though is apart from adjusting the tow in/ out for front and rear tyres, what other suspension settings should I use?
Do I need to lower/ stiffen/ soften it or is the RX7 type A good as it is? Will I need to fit a LSD as well?
I'm guessing that Comfort Hard will be ok for this car. Is that correct?
Thanks:tup:
- 422
- Soulless_Vessel
- Soullessvessel
I personally don't try to depend on settings to much, I feel you should try to fit the car rather then adjust the car to fit you. As I stated before I recommend the LSD but tis not REALLY needed, but I recommended it.
- 375
- Birmingham, UK
- GTP_The_Stalker
^^ Thanks. I'll give it a try later today.
Is it also correct that it's best to turn the power steering off in the settings menu?
Is it also correct that it's best to turn the power steering off in the settings menu?
Turn off all aids except maybe put ABS on 1, depending on preferences...holy jesus your avatar is scary, btw.
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- 189
Silvia is probably my favourite. You need to do some tuning but, literally, that Silvia I have cannot be used for races, it's too slippery now, but it's perfect for drifting and I love it.
could you give some examples of your settings? ^__^
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- Soulless_Vessel
- Soullessvessel
I actually do not know if I turned it off or now :S I think I have it off, but...I don't know I'll boot up the game later and get back to you if no one else does.
LSD=Limited Slip Differential. it allows the drive tires spin at different speeds when need be but also spin at the same speed when need be. its a pretty important part of drifting, most cars stock have whats called an open differential, in an open diff the tires will spin at different speeds but there is an issue because when a tire losses grip (say on ice) and the other has grip, most/all of the power will be directed to the tire with low grip.
It's the same deal with drifting, when the car is sideways and the wheels are spinning the open diff will direct the power to the tire that has the least resistance. an LSD will stop this so the power is even between each wheel.
- 375
- Birmingham, UK
- GTP_The_Stalker
Ha ha! Can't remember where the picture came from originally.
Thanks Soulless.
I seem to remebember someone saying somewhere they had it switched off.
Can't wait til the baby and the missus go to sleep so I can put into practice everything I've read here:tup:
With the RX-7, just do the toe angle settings with Comfort:Hard tires and you'll be sliding around like a pro. Make sure to set traction control to 0, ABS to 1, and ASM off.
Tsukuba and Trial Mountain are my favourite places to practice drifting.
Added: Wheel settings differ per individual. It seems it's good to start with Amateur settings (less countersteering involved), and slowly wean yourself off as you get adjusted to the wheel.
Tsukuba and Trial Mountain are my favourite places to practice drifting.
Added: Wheel settings differ per individual. It seems it's good to start with Amateur settings (less countersteering involved), and slowly wean yourself off as you get adjusted to the wheel.
- 422
- Soulless_Vessel
- Soullessvessel
OK, I just checked my FFB is on 5, Steering on simulation, and the power steering is off.
Just a heads up it will take a while to get a hang of things, I learned in forza2 running the same track over and over and over and over, at least an hr a day, (was practicing for tournament qualifying.) and had no previous experience, so don't get frustrated if you don't get it today tomorrow or by the end of the week. just try and run every now and again and slowly learn.
Just a heads up it will take a while to get a hang of things, I learned in forza2 running the same track over and over and over and over, at least an hr a day, (was practicing for tournament qualifying.) and had no previous experience, so don't get frustrated if you don't get it today tomorrow or by the end of the week. just try and run every now and again and slowly learn.
- 496
- deca_tarce
- Deca Tarce
Honestly I wouldn't mess with the toe at all. Racing suspension comes with enough rear toe in by default, maybe just lower the car about halfway and add like, 1.5/.5 camber if you absolutely must mess with the suspension.
As for steering...I THINK I have power steering on, but it might be off, I'm not sure honestly. I wouldn't use anything other than Professional or Sim or whatever the highest level steering setting is, using a lower setting will just make you lazy/ give you a false sense of security and then you'll have to learn everything twice.
When I want to learn a new car, I drive it bone stock on comforts matched to its power. Use the stickiest compound that will still initiate easily, on a stock S13 I used comfort softs.
I really think that the best thing for a beginner to do is drive a proven drifting platform (S13, S2000, RX7) completely stock to learn technique. This way you can't possibly blame it on the car and we know you haven't done something weird to the setup. These cars can drift great without any modification at all, so if you're spinning out or having trouble initiating you know that all you have to worry about improving is yourself.
As for steering...I THINK I have power steering on, but it might be off, I'm not sure honestly. I wouldn't use anything other than Professional or Sim or whatever the highest level steering setting is, using a lower setting will just make you lazy/ give you a false sense of security and then you'll have to learn everything twice.
When I want to learn a new car, I drive it bone stock on comforts matched to its power. Use the stickiest compound that will still initiate easily, on a stock S13 I used comfort softs.
I really think that the best thing for a beginner to do is drive a proven drifting platform (S13, S2000, RX7) completely stock to learn technique. This way you can't possibly blame it on the car and we know you haven't done something weird to the setup. These cars can drift great without any modification at all, so if you're spinning out or having trouble initiating you know that all you have to worry about improving is yourself.
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- Soulless_Vessel
- Soullessvessel
^ All this = 👍
- 375
- Birmingham, UK
- GTP_The_Stalker
I'll try putting the wheel to amateur. Currently it's set to simulation for my normal race setting.
One thing I was wondering about is steering grip with regards to counter steer.
Before when I've tried to drift, I'm never quite sure how much I should be turning the wheel whilst (trying) to control the slide.
Does the wheel have to do more than one turn either way to control the slide,(ie- quickly spining the wheel round in a hand-over-hand motion), or is it possible to keep my hands at the quarter-to-nine position and just cross my arms over? Also, does anyone here use a one handed technique and use the palm of their hand to turn the wheel?
Not sure if that makes sense but I'm not sure how else to word it.
Thanks for your help with this guys. appreciate it.👍
- 422
- Soulless_Vessel
- Soullessvessel
I can't help with that sadly I'm using a momo 
I dont even get 360 degrees
I dont even get 360 degrees
- 1,160
- Counter_Steer
I'll try putting the wheel to amateur. Currently it's set to simulation for my normal race setting.
One thing I was wondering about is steering grip with regards to counter steer.
Before when I've tried to drift, I'm never quite sure how much I should be turning the wheel whilst (trying) to control the slide.
Does the wheel have to do more than one turn either way to control the slide,(ie- quickly spining the wheel round in a hand-over-hand motion), or is it possible to keep my hands at the quarter-to-nine position and just cross my arms over? Also, does anyone here use a one handed technique and use the palm of their hand to turn the wheel?
Not sure if that makes sense but I'm not sure how else to word it.
Thanks for your help with this guys. appreciate it.👍
I wouldn't start on amateur if I were you, as you're just going to have to relearn when you switch to professional. You're learning now anyway, might as well only do it once.
As for the counter steering, it depends on the corner, angle, speed, car, and all kinds of other things. However, you're gonna need to move your hands quite a bit, not just leaving them in their grip position.
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