IBTL posts must die.

[Famine]

How can you tell if a thread is just about to be closed?

Not everyone sits and watches the progress of threads, sometimes you just happen apon a thread without knowing the background or recent direction of said thread. Perhaps threads been watched by mods for potential locking could come with a warning icon? - this would either stop participents from further 'comments' or warn people from even entering the thread in the first place.

just a thought.

It's largely irrelevant.

IBTL posts tend to appear in threads where an oft-asked question has been asked and answered:

Thread starter: How do I get the Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R in GT4?
Somebody: zOMfG n00b search lolololol
Somebody more helpful: It's in the used car lots. Look in the used car lists (link). Also, please use the search function in future.
Somebody: In before the lock!


It's obvious the thread will be locked because it's both a repost AND the query has been answered.

 

[Sage]

Personally, I think that even posts stating "I reported you for such and such" or "Reported" serve no purpose, either.

I like it when people do that, because then we don’t get 30 reports about the same thread. When somebody openly states they’ve reported the thread, that’s an indication to everybody else that they don’t need to report it too.

 

[Pupik]

How can you tell if a thread is just about to be closed?

[edit: Famine beat me to it]

It's quite obvious in the GT4 forum. I'm guilty of answering questions that have been asked and answered 20 times before, if I'm in a good mood. Plus, I'm used to it in the GT2/GT1 forums, because sometimes mods aren't sure if the question's been done to death.

Postwhoring is the #2 reason for ITBL posts; Numero Uno is that some people have no life and/or no purpose.

 

[G.T]

Question. Shouldn't this thread be in the GT4 Forum too, as many people there don't look anywhere other than the GT4 forum. But then the people that do post like this do visit here too, so it might not matter.

 

[Dave A]

Yeah it'smainly new emmebers and such theat only use the GT4 forum that create the threads, it's more often people who've been members for longer that do IBTL posts, from what I've seen of it anyway.

 

[xcsti]

It shouldn't be an added reason in the first place. Post counts do not matter after you reach the ability to obtain a Custom User Title. Having more posts does not indicate that the user is one of better quality or behaviour. There's a red tick in the top right-hand corner of everyone's posts, and if you get enough of those, people will be able to see that you post quality posts, anyway. Racking up your post count with incompetent dribble and useless posts does not give you a positive image within the community.

Yes, but just because post count really doesn't matter doesn't mean that users aren't going to go after a high one. Again pupik brings up post whoring again. It still occurs regardless of whether or not there is a rep system, though the system does a good job of reducing it.

 

[Swift]

The GT4 main forum and Drift forum are plagued by this kind of thing. Good move Duke. 👍

 

[Roo]

The GT4 main forum and Drift forum are plagued by this kind of thing. Good move Duke. 👍

Might be worth making this a sticky there too, then.

 

[Swift]

Might be worth making this a sticky there too, then.

Good call! 👍

 

[Boundary Layer]

oh this is so rough...

I never used to do IBTL's - but I've seen 3 or 4 perfectly good opportunities come and go now in the drift forum. It's so much more tempting with this in place.... like forbidden fruit.

 

[Fonce Diablo]

Wow, this'll put some people out of a job... (again with the no-name mentioning)

Post count doesn't matter to me...because I know it'll take me...oh...45 years to get the 86 million posts to earn a custom user title.

 

[Jimmy Enslashay]

Yes, but just because post count really doesn't matter doesn't mean that users aren't going to go after a high one. Again pupik brings up post whoring again. It still occurs regardless of whether or not there is a rep system, though the system does a good job of reducing it.

Of course. I'm not stating that post-whoring has ceased or will cease. There's still no reason not to fight against it.

How can you tell if a thread is just about to be closed?

Not everyone sits and watches the progress of threads, sometimes you just happen apon a thread without knowing the background or recent direction of said thread. Perhaps threads been watched by mods for potential locking could come with a warning icon? - this would either stop participents from further 'comments' or warn people from even entering the thread in the first place.

just a thought.

That serves little-to-no purpose, either. If a thread is going to be closed, it will be closed. If a thread is in danger of being closed, low-quality participants will be warned to cease their behaviour and a post will be made by a Moderator in that thread. Threads in danger of being closed shouldn't just be cut out and discussion stopped just because of a few low-quality posters.

sometimes mods aren't sure if the question's been done to death.

Report the post, and state that you're not reporting the member, just need the thread closed. Better yet, contact a Moderator. Look in the "Online Users" list and find a Moderator. Then utilise the Private Message feature.

I'm also going to go ahead and sticky this in the GT4 and GT4 Drifting forums.

 

[Ryosuke_Gumna]

Finally, I hope they learn a lesson, at least.

 

[Tenacious D]

Isn't this sort of thing just going to do something even more annoying? Create a hundred little Mini-mods?

 

[Swift]

Isn't this sort of thing just going to do something even more annoying? Create a hundred little Mini-mods?

Actually, that's what we're trying to stop from happening. All these member's trying to be a mod and predicting a thread be closed.

 

[Boundary Layer]

suggestion:
Since the rumble strip version of this thread is closed, and because it's impractical to leave copies of this thread stickied all over the site, would it not be a decent idea to mention something about IBTL's in either the AUP or Common Sense Rules for Posting.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

suggestion:
Since the rumble strip version of this thread is closed, and because it's impractical to leave copies of this thread stickied all over the site, would it not be a decent idea to mention something about IBTL's in either the AUP or Common Sense Rules for Posting.

I dont think this can be supported in anyway by making the new users read this.

It can only be enforced with temporary kicks. Learn it the hard way, cause trust me, nothing is going to affect anyone if you change the AUP or the Common Sense Rules of Posting.

Offcourse there SHOULD be an effect if you do that, but the reality is different though.

 

[Duke]

Yes, it would. I'll see if Jordan wants to add that to the "spam or wasteful posts" clause. However, most people who would be entertained by IBTL posts won't have the attention span to actually read the rules.

 

[Boundary Layer]

hehe
No, you're right, but at least this way there'd be something in writing for you mods/admins to quote and fall back on should you be compelled enough to unsheath the ban-stick.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Yes, it would. I'll see if Jordan wants to add that to the "spam or wasteful posts" clause. However, most people who would be entertained by IBTL posts won't have the attention span to actually read the rules.

That was kinda my point. But yeah BL is right, you must have something to support this temporary kicking. Although I think again that you shoudn't begin an argue with an admin about you being kicked for IBTL, or you are a real waste of website size

I just IBTL'ed though look at the age thread, it's pretty difficult to predict if something is gonna be closed.

But the count down I sometimes see in the drift forums is just sick And I think it's more meant for these posts right?

3....2....1....Swift?

 

[G.T]

I just IBTL'ed though look at the age thread, it's pretty difficult to predict if something is gonna be closed.

Well, no you didn't. You didn't actualy said "IBTL", and you explained that the posts will probably be usless and you contributed to the thread (wasn't a wastefull post), so you should be fine.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Oh I thought it was just posting in a subject thats obviously gonna be closed...
Thanks

 

[Eric.]

Wouldn't this be better if it was listed under the announcements at the top of all of the boards?