Incorrect Le Mans Prototype HP specifications

[Furinkazen]

I was looking through the website ultimatecarpage at the specs of LMP cars, and it struck me how woefully wrong they are on GT5 - look at these statistics:

Car (REAL LIFE HP / GT5 HP)

Audi R8 '01 (610 / 822)
Audi R8 '05 (520 / 818)
Bentley Speed 8 (615 / 814)
BMW V12 LMR (580 / 764)
Pescarolo Courage-Judd GV5 (600 / 770)
Pescarolo C60 Hybride (660 / 905 with over 1000 possible)
Pescarolo Courage C60 Peugeot ((510 / 828)
Peugeot 908 (700 / 725)
Toyota GT-One (600 / 803)


All of these make no sense - what were PD thinking when they did it?

 

[Downhill Dino]

Are the GT5 ones tuned?

I took a look around mygranturismo.net and saw that the HP was different then the ones you listed. Are you wrong or are they?

EDITED before reading CAM's post.

 

[CAM]

The general consensus is that PD used the horsepower figures that could be attained without series restrictions, not the real life race spec numbers.

No, ED, those are closer to stock GT5 numbers. I collect LMPs 👍.

 

[Furinkazen]

I know that cars like the R8 in '05 were restricted but even then it seems a little extreme...

 

[Downhill Dino]

It's the true power within.

 

[Techy]

You can always restrict the power with the Power Limiter.

 

[Downhill Dino]

And there you have it. He just solved the problem.

 

[Furinkazen]

Yep thats what I did actually. Now if only online you could set individual weight restrictions...

 

[Downhill Dino]

That's one of the 2 wishes I want in GT5. Before this starts into a wishlist thread, with less HP is it giving you more control? Or is it just the same only not as fast through the straights? Not sure as I don't drive LMP cars.

 

[Furinkazen]

That's one of the 2 wishes I want in GT5. Before this starts into a wishlist thread, with less HP is it giving you more control? Or is it just the same only not as fast through the straights? Not sure as I don't drive LMP cars.

I think it bit more control. Certainly compromises speed.

 

[Tume]

You can always restrict the power with the Power Limiter.

This is what I've done, though I think the cars still have too much torque, even if you limit the horsepower.

 

[mykem]

Most of the time a Team would also restrict the max HP/max redline(RPM) to ensure reliability. Take the Mazda 787B, for example. It's capable of producing over 930HP and relined at 10,500rpm but in a race like Le Mans where the car needs to run a whole day, they've brought the number down to 700HP and 9000rpm.

 

[Jubby]

Most of the time a Team would also restrict the max HP/max redline(RPM) to ensure reliability. Take the Mazda 787B, for example. It's capable of producing over 930HP and relined at 10,500rpm but in a race like Le Mans where the car needs to run a whole day, they've brought the number down to 700HP and 9000rpm.

This is something I wish we could do... play with the power-band. Add in the reliability (Engine percentage like in F1 2010), and that'd make some awesome racing. Not to mention make the engine rebuilds a little more meaningful.

 

[Samus]

The general consensus is that PD used the horsepower figures that could be attained without series restrictions, not the real life race spec numbers.

No, ED, those are closer to stock GT5 numbers. I collect LMPs 👍.

Why though? Those cars have never run with that kind of power so why put them in the game like it? That Pescarolo Hybride which the AI always drive near the front is the most annoying.

 

[CAM]

Because people want the maximum power out of a car. If someone with little knowledge of cars sees that Gran Turismo has a large selection of race cars with almost 1000 horsepower, that's a selling point. It's also pretty fun to try and drive them at full power.

 

[Techy]

I think it bit more control. Certainly compromises speed.

I have a GT-One that I restricted to 680 HP for an organized online race event and spotted two immediate changes: more control but reduced speed. So yes, you're right about that.

@ CAM

That is true. However, I doubt PD was aiming towards the "marketing" angle. Sony does a bit, though (reason why they released earlier than what Kaz had hoped). And plus, many people would also like LMPs power similar to the ones IRL. Perhaps an option to switch between regulations and no regulations would fix this.

 

[CAM]

It could. And I would rather have both options, which is what you get with the current specs, than only the regulation option. Also, you must remember that the extra HP could be for less talented drivers to pass harder events.

 

[Cosbuster]

I've always been both puzzled and annoyed by this.

 

[Techy]

It could. And I would rather have both options, which is what you get with the current specs, than only the regulation option. Also, you must remember that the extra HP could be for less talented drivers to pass harder events.

You have a point. But some drivers would like the regulations to exist in the game, at least have an option do switch between them, as I suggested on my previous post. This would balance the less talented and the more talented.

 

[CAM]

It seems like most drivers who want them to be competition spec have enough sense to find said specs, so it doesn't seem to be a problem 👍.

 

[Giygas]

the gt-one has 800hp in gt5?

 

[CAM]

It has almost 800 horsepower stock (778). It will break 900 with a full turbo and break-in. I believe the general maximum is 928-929 horsepower.

 

[Samus]

It seems like most drivers who want them to be competition spec have enough sense to find said specs, so it doesn't seem to be a problem 👍.

That may be true for us but what about the AI? I'm not going to win the LM24 with 300hp less than the AI.

 

[friedi]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=219466


heres a similar thread...

 

[Akmuq]

^I can tell just from reading the first post of that thread that they're different.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I don't think the actual horsepower numbers that manufacturer's claim during a race are something to believe.

 

[g0ld]

I am pretty sure some if not all of those values are of oil changed vehicles.

 

[Samus]

I don't think the actual horsepower numbers that manufacturer's claim during a race are something to believe.

I'd be more inclined to believe them than PDs figures.

I am pretty sure some if not all of those values are of oil changed vehicles.

Oil changes do not add 300bhp.

 

[g0ld]

I'd be more inclined to believe them than PDs figures.



Oil changes do not add 300bhp.

Never said they did. But the values are still of oil changed vehicles.

 

[Samus]

Never said they did. But the values are still of oil changed vehicles.

Still doesn't change the fact they're very wrong so i'm not sure why you're making the point.