I can't help but point out your missuse of the word Ricy on a couple of occasions, and the fact that I dissagree with a couple of the points you've made.
The Civic is still ok, but the Si wants to be a Vitz or Demio or something and it's way too ricy.
I agree that the civic is "ok", however wanting to be a Vitz or a Demio? If Honda wanted the civic to be a Vitz or a Demio they would have installed a SOHC engine as apposed to the 160HP 2.0l K20 engine. If Honda wanted the Civic to be a Vitz or a Demio they would probably deny the fact that Civic's have not only been competing against, but beating Audi's and BMW's in certain circuts.
The Oddessy is a great van but heavy and way expensive. Sure it has 240hp but it's bigger, heavier, and cushier than the 200hp MPV
I don't know about you, but from what I know and have heard of, people shopping for van's don't sit there and go "Hey, it has 240hp, but it's bigger, and cushier than the MPV, so I don't want it" Usually people buy vans FOR that reason. If people didn't WANT Roominess, and cushiness as you put it. They would probably buy a Sedan instead.
The S2000 is a good car but nothing over special.
You're right, it's nothing over special, however it is a 240HP 4 cylinder RWD sports car that redlines at 9500 RPM. I don't know what you think, but it sure as heck outclasses the other $30,000 dollar cars out there.
Then there's the Element. Like Scion, the people that are wanted to buy them are youths that don't know any better.
The element however is only similar to the Scion in it's very basic shape, the element is bigger, the element has more power, and I didn't know you could hose out a Scion.
The RSX is good, but it screems rice and many people turn it into that even more. The TSX is a very Mazda 6 like car using Mazda 6 cues. Only problem is that it's got the RSX Type S engine which is underpowered for the TSX and lacks torque. The 6 would blow it away. The other Acuras are pretty mundane.
I have to disagree with the whole thing of "The RSX is good" because it's not, its a horrible car, and the fact that they replaced the previous chassis Integra with this one is appauling. Although I don't know what you mean by "it screams rice" it doesn't have a massive spoiler, it's more quiet than a stock infinity G35 by a long shot, it doesn't have oversized rim's and it doesn't have unessicary lighting features. It's pretty basic by automotive standards.
You say the TSX is a very mazda 6 like car, when in fact the Mazda 6 is a very TSX like car. The TSX is nothing more than Honda/Acura's spin off of the CL/TL/RL Series cars, which were FWD V6's just like the Mazda 6, but were out well before the 6.
Yes the TSX does have 20 less horsepower in it's 2.4LK series engine, however the TSX can have the JDM AWD Accords drivetrain implimented on it, and when it's all said and done, the 2.4L honda engine will have a larger aftermarket than a Mazda V6.
Then there's Mitsubishi. They have gone downhill in my opinion. The Eclipse is so so, the US spec Lancer(not the Evo)
I don't understand at all why you excluded the Evo, the Evo is the biggest Mitsubishi dissapointment to date, The evo has a GREAT reputation in the past, and so far every single evo in one aspect or another has been a better car than it's previous model/models e.g. The Evo 6 is better than the evo 5, the Evo 7 is better than the evo 6, however the Evo 7 remains better than the evo 8. The Evo 7 is a statisticly better car than the evo 8.
And the 3 door is sorta RX-8 like.
Actually the RX-8 is "Sorta Saturn like" seeing as how the Saturn debuted the 3rd door long before Mazda unveiled the RX-8
Also Saturn use to make thier own engines, but now they use engines from Cavaliers/Sunfires
I think that is the smartest move saturn has made so far. The modification, and aftermarket on the cavalier engines has tripled in the past couple of years. If Saturn had continued to make it's own engine it still wouldn't be anywhere.
In my opinion the only company that still has their head in the right direction is Nissan. Not only did they manage to discontinue 2 of the hottest cars from japan in the same year (Skyline & Silvia) and remain on top. They managed to develop the magnificent engine the VQ35DE, this engine which has a firm grasp on the motorsports industry, even swaying skyline fans to replace their engines with this V6 powerplant. The only problem i've seen from them is them using the EXACT same engine(spec's and all) for both the 350Z and the G35, not only that, but the G35 sounds horrible stock. I mean BAAAADDD
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), Mondeo (family saloon), Maverick (SUV), Explorer (bigger SUV, and one of yours we borrowed), Galaxy (people carrier), Ranger (a pick-up) and various Fiesta-shaped small vans.
