this idea just came across my mind. they might not release the date even it is ready due to the fact that they do not want two gran turismo games (gt5 and gt portable) takes away each others sales, waiting for the ps3 slim to come out, business proposition where they look at currency market and wait for the yen to go down to bring in more $, etc etc etc. what are your thoughts.
is PD intentionally not disclosing the release date or even postpone?
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... oi
Even tho Kaz mention they could realese the game any day now, he did not mean its COMPLETED, he means that most of the stuff is completed but he still wants more polish and bit more features in... He is not delaying GT5 because of PSP version might have less sales or the other way around..
He is delaying the game because he wants perfection and wants to be happy and make the fans happy.
Even tho Kaz mention they could realese the game any day now, he did not mean its COMPLETED, he means that most of the stuff is completed but he still wants more polish and bit more features in... He is not delaying GT5 because of PSP version might have less sales or the other way around..
He is delaying the game because he wants perfection and wants to be happy and make the fans happy.
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Yeah, facepalm. But it got me thinking too. Why does Sony think one will steal sales from the other? If anything, GT5 will boost anticipation for GT Mobile and vice versa. There's nothing for them to be worried about. I mean, Activision releases multiple Guitar Hero games on separate platforms within the same month for crying out loud.
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I thought from reading amars cryptic message that both versions would be released together, but then again we've only being getting PSP notifications recently.
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Not really. The PS3 has been outselling the XBox, even though it has the higher price tag, and the gap between the number of 360s and PS3s has shortened in almost every single month since its been released, excepting the Christmas rush where families tend to go for the cheaper system. The gap is now less than 8.5 million, and this will shorten even faster after the expected price cut and/or introduction of the slim model. Had the two systems been released in the same year and sold the same way they have to date, there would be about three million more PS3s than 360s.
If you break it down by region, as has been done on vgcharts.org, you will see that the PS3 is much more popular than the 360 in Japan (over three million sold), it lags by less than two million consoles in Europe (where there have been over ten million sold), and the US is the only place where there is a significantly higher market share of 360s than PS3s (make whatever jokes you want about Americans here, I won't hold it against you
). In the US, the PS3 trails by about nine million consoles as of the last update in sales numbers.All of that said, I think it's less that the PS3 needs a 'savior,' but rather that it needs a little bit of extra time to sell, to get a price cut, and transfer the remaining exclusive franchises over to the PS3. GT5 will no doubt do its part to help Sony in the console war, but I don't believe it is the decisive key to the battle by any means.
Note: If you would like to confirm the statistics I mentioned above, check out www.vgcharts.org.
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I didn't want to include that information, as, to my knowledge, there is no reliable way to know how many users of both PS3s and 360s got a replacement console through the warranty, how many simply bought a new console, and how many opted not to replace a broken console. However, if you wanted to do the accounting in that manner, you might multiply the number of sales by the failure rate of each console, for a back-of-the-envelope calculation of the number of faulty consoles.
I'll use the figures quoted by Famine in this thread, since I cannot seem to find a good source on this data (if anyone can point me to a reputable source to either confirm or correct this data, I'd appreciate it). The figures he mentioned were a roughly 3% overall failure rate for the PS3, and a roughly 16% failure rate for the 360, so the number of broken consoles to date would be around 0.7 million PS3s and just over five million 360s.* Taking this into account, the gap between the number of 360s and PS3s that have not failed to date would be roughly four million.**
* Remember that this is a back-of-the-envelope calculation, and should only be taken as a very rough estimate.
** Since this is based on estimated values, this figure should also be taken with a grain of salt. Additionally, since there is no way to know how many owners of failed consoles got a replacement through warranty, off the shelf, or not at all, the meaning of this figure is up for interpretation.
amar was wright at the time.. because SONY planned to have both released at the same time they even said it in blog or some video.
What I think... they pushed PD to make it happen, but PD said no, we will release only PSP version and we will work on GT5 till we think its done!
Thats what I think..
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Why do people keep mentioning this PS3 SLIM?!?!?! That thing is just a rumor at the moment isnt it?! Is there any confirmation it is coming out?? Links please if this is so... I keep hearing this speculation everywhere that GT5 will be released with the PS3 slim when the PS3 slim is nothing but a rumor at the moment... we know less about that thing then we do about GT5... which is VERY little...
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Considering that Sony has historically made a slim model of each of its consoles, the question of the PS3 slim is not if, but when. I personally think it is a bit early into this generation for Sony to release a slim model, but if they are able to reduce the production cost by a significant amount by releasing it early, they may move (or may have already moved) the production of the slim model to an earlier date, especially if Sony is looking for ways to make up for the reduction in sales across their entire line of products due to the current economic slump. I'm sure that by this time next month, we will know for sure, one way or the other.
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I think that's definitively the case. Sony ( not so much PD ) doesn't want GT5 take away the attention of GT mobile.
In my opinion they'll launch a massive ad campaign for GT5 after the release of GT mobile, probably in November ( if GT5 will be released before Christmas ) along with a PS3 price cut and / or the PS3 slim.
All those guys here with their face palm pics and ideas of Kazunori not releasing the game because of his ideas or perfection obviously don't know much about business.
Of course PD wouldn't release a faulty unfinished product, but apart from that Sony dictates both the information flow and the release date. The currency market however is probably not a major factor. It all depends on seasons and releases of big titles of Sony, MS and Nintendo.
I think Sony hopes that the combination of PSP go / GT mobile and later GT5 ( PS3 slim ( including traditional PS3 price cut ) will increase their market share by a large step.
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So its still speculation and rumor at this point...? Which was my main question
Sorry for the long answer. You're completely right, the short answer was yes.
Though, it seems that at this point, almost all gaming news sites are predicting either a slim model or a price cut (or both) before the end of the year. I'd wager that the price cut is almost dead certain, whereas I'd reckon there is a 33% chance, or less, that Sony will release a slim model between now and Christmas.
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Alot of games come out on loads of platforms... ps3, xbox 360, pc, ds, psp at the same time.
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^^ I dont think we will know EVERYTHING... just some i.e. RELEASE DATE!!! :@
i.e. RELEASE DATE!!! :@
