Is the handbrake useful?

[.TrAnCe]

Do you ever use the handbrake (Circle button for PS2) during races? If so, where do you use it?

 

[HYBRIDLVR]

Nope, The handbrake is not necessary for racing! It mostly locks the rear wheels up and starts a slide at pretty much the same speed for a second or two, Some Drifters do it to break the rear wheels loose though.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I disagree. The handbrake can be a useful tool to tighten up cornering if used sparingly in a front-drive car. It's pointless to use handbraking in rear or 4-wheel drives because it cuts your engine, but in a front-drive it actually can make a difference.

I'm not talking about long, dramatic sliding...I'm talking about literally a blip here and a blip there. Since most front-drives lack power, you can make up for this in corners. I would have to say I only use handbraking perhaps 20% of the time in sim races...it shouldn't become a cure-all is what I'm trying to say.

 

[HYBRIDLVR]

I can't wait to blow your doors off, ONLINE!

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I can't wait to blow your doors off, ONLINE!

Yeah bro, and you'll need that Escudo hybrid engine stuffed in there to do it!

 

[HYBRIDLVR]

Can't stand the Escudo engine, I like the Suzuki RR mini van with the Escudo Stage 4 Turbo, So much nicer!

(((((((((Oh yeah, I dare you to use a emergency brake while racing me!)))))))

 

[Parnelli Bone]

See, and that settles it. You've got your RR stuffed with a frickin' Stage 4 turbo, 'cause that's what you NEED to take the likes of Parnelli down. What has this got to do with handbraking, anyways? I know. Nothing!

Anyways, if you're eager to blow some doors, take a trip to GT2...there's an online challenge at Grindelwäld as we speak. Subaru 360. No mods other than what you can buy from STI and that means NO HYBRIDS! Let's go, homie.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

dd

 

[KAMKA-Z]

I can't remember if it was on GTPlanet, but I was reading where someone was using the handbrake to help get around the tight hairpin at Cote de Azur. I may have to try it sometime.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I can't remember if it was on GTPlanet, but I was reading where someone was using the handbrake to help get around the tight hairpin at Cote de Azur. I may have to try it sometime.

It's great for tight corners and some longer ones, too. In the Beetle cup it's a good place to try it (at Cote) also in the Type R meeting races. Just a blip here and a blip there...holding the ebrake down will only make a slide but dashing it out just a little will change your angle in corners.

Sometimes you may need to back off the gas a bit while you hit the e-brake. And after a while, you might wanna try substituting L1 or L2 for e-brake, this makes it ultra-smooth once you get the hang of it.

 

[HYBRIDLVR]

While you're thinking up a witty comeback, it's off to bed for me...

Actually, I had went to bed right afterwards, Before you!

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Let's summarize. Is the handbrake useful?

1. Can help front-drive cars get a better angle in corners.

2. Ebrake is a great tool for drifters.

3. Use of the handbrake is a great way to get one hell of an online shoving match in motion. Cheers

 

[shifty_86]

i use it sum time when im drifting in my r34 it keeps me drifting. but i only use it about 1 every 20 drifts and only in my skyline

 

[supert10]

I like to use the e brake for gold spins.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I like to use the e brake for gold spins.

What's a gold spin?

 

[Purple Platypus]

I'd guess he's talking about 360-ing (or trying to) over the finish line at the end of a race. Good fun, unless it costs you the race.

As for the handbrake, couldn't say that I've ever used it, drifting or otherwise. As far as ff's go, I've always been too busy trying not to poke the gas too hard to really try and blip the handbrake =\

 

[HYBRIDLVR]

What's a gold spin?

That's a Quick U Turn when you spot a rare Gold coin laying in traffic! ;-)

 

[rsmithdrift]

I use the E brake to hold a SUPER long UNBELIEVEABLE link between turns drift w/o gaining or loosing speed. If your sliding a turn and can't seem to keep it sideways and on line long enough to make it to the next turn, just pull the e-brake next time and balance the car out better and you'll make it. Or just adjust your line and get MASSIVE wheelspin and you'll make it to the turn, just better get it under control or you'll really loose it.

It's called "Straight Line Drifting" and I used alot of it in my video Drift Obscenity. It's a main technique that I use to make the long drifts at Complex String.

Also I use it for 360 drifting.

Here, watch and learn. In car view of Drift Obscenity, watch how many times I shift to 4th early and HAMMER the throttle to get 80+mph of wheelspin to make some of the longer drifts.


Also here is a live view of me drifting the greatest PS2 drift simulator EVER Enthusia. Watch how many times I pull Shift + on the DFP (E brake in the game) to extend a drift or keep one going that wants to end.

 

[HYBRIDLVR]

Seems harder that way, I personally would want to see the car break loose on the turns versus the inside view, Nice work though!

 

[Parnelli Bone]

There's a couple of license tests in GT2 where the demo uses handbrake. I forget which car, but it's the really sharp turn at Midfield. turn on the Accel/Brake meter while the demo plays and you can see the driver used green right in the sharp corner. In case you don't know,

red=accel
blue=brakes
green=handbrake (in GT2, not GT3)

Also, I was spacing out the other day and the Start menu demo came on. The driver here (definitely a human, not an AI drone) was getting sideways at Pike's Peak uphill in a Lancer. With every sharp turn, he or she got sideways in a full drift, and would occasionally blip the e-brake.

 

[supert10]

On the licence tests I tried to get a 360 degree spin over the finish line
without touching the sides of the track with a better than demo time.
You have to spin pretty violently to get all the way around without losing
much time. I hit reverse when the car is backwards and turn hard which
makes the car spin quickly before the computer takes over. Have these
for most of the tests where you can go fast enough for a spin.
Doing this has helped me recover from those moments when you lose control
in a race (it happens) and I need to get going the right direction fast.
It doesn't work in GT-4 however. (at the finish line)

 

[Parnelli Bone]

On the licence tests I tried to get a 360 degree spin over the finish line
without touching the sides of the track with a better than demo time.
You have to spin pretty violently to get all the way around without losing
much time. I hit reverse when the car is backwards and turn hard which
makes the car spin quickly before the computer takes over. Have these
for most of the tests where you can go fast enough for a spin.
Doing this has helped me recover from those moments when you lose control
in a race (it happens) and I need to get going the right direction fast.
It doesn't work in GT-4 however. (at the finish line)

I do this whenever I win a race with any safe margin (spin across the finish). There is an art to it for sure...I'll admit I've lost a fair share of races because I started too early with a handbrake spin...and wind up too far away from the finish! Then another car comes and takes my precious credits away!

 

[GrumpEone]

Do you ever use the handbrake (Circle button for PS2) during races? If so, where do you use it?

I love the handbrake, with a 4WD or FR car you can do some great power slides on pavement, thats how I drive with the power slide. Unfortunately on GT4 it tends to lock-up the breaks and it's hard to 'pop' the accelerator out of the slide.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I love the handbrake, with a 4WD or FR car you can do some great power slides on pavement, thats how I drive with the power slide. Unfortunately on GT4 it tends to lock-up the breaks and it's hard to 'pop' the accelerator out of the slide.

Me too. In fact, one day I got the bright idea 💡 to switch my e-brake button from circle to L2....which makes it easier to punch on and off since my right thumb is on the analog stick.

 

[GrumpEone]

Me too. In fact, one day i got the bright idea 💡 to switch my e-brake button from circle to L2....which makes it easier to punch on and off since my right thumb is on the analog stick.

Me too, but my config is R1 - Handbrake, R2 - Nitro. Also I hit Reverse (L1) occasionally if I oversteer on a power slide as long as its a 4WD car I'm driving.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Me too, but my config is R1 - Handbrake, R2 - Nitro. Also I hit Reverse (L1) occasionally if I oversteer on a power slide as long as its a 4WD car I'm driving.

That's an unusual configuration! I am:

Right Analog: accel/brake

Left Analog: steering

Circle: change view

Triangle: reverse

L1: downshift
R1: upshift
R2: look behind
L2: handbrake

 

[GrumpEone]

that's an unusual configuration! I am:

Right Analog: accel/brake

Left Analog: steering

Circle: change view

Triangle: reverse

L1: downshift
L2: upshift
R1: look behind
R2: handbrake

Now I am using:
RT-Analog (Accel/Brake)
LT-Analog (Steer.)
L1 (Upshift)
L2 (Downshift)
R1 (E-Brake)
R2 (Niitro)
Triangle (Rev)

Much better setup than my previous, thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I actually screwed that up Actually, it's:

R1: upshift
L1: downshift
R2: look behind
L2: handbrake.

This way it's easier to jump on the handbrake since I trained myself how to use my middle finger on the handbrake and my index finger on the downshifts, and this way different fingers have different chores. 👍

 

[GrumpEone]

I actually screwed that up Actually, it's:

R1: upshift
L1: downshift
R2: look behind
L2: handbrake.

This way it's easier to jump on the handbrake since i trained myself how to use my middle finger on the handbrake and my index finger on the downshifts, and this way different fingers have different chores. 👍

Do you guys use 'Look Behind' that often?? Whenever I use it, I blow a turn.

 

[socomplayer2]

Well I use it in gt4 on the Costa di Amalfi course. It is very useful on the section with 3 consecutive tight turns if you know how to use it right.👍