Is your PC ready for Longhorn?

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In an e-mail, the software maker said it will outline the required specifications for computers to run Windows at WinHEC (the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference), which takes place May 4 to May 7 in Seattle.

In a promotional e-mail for the conference, Microsoft said hardware and driver developers could "get the first close look" at Longhorn. In addition to the system requirements, the Redmond, Wash., company said it will detail how to write the drivers needed to connect hardware in Longhorn, along with "future directions for mobile computing and Tablet PCs, Media Center Edition, 64-bit Windows" and embedded versions of Windows.

Microsoft released a developers' preview of the software at its Professional Developers Conference last fall and has promised that the first beta, or test, version will be made available this summer. The company has not said when a final version of Longhorn will arrive, but analysts expect that it will be late 2005 or 2006.

The company has billed Longhorn as the biggest advance for Windows since Windows 95. The operating system features three major upgrades--a new graphics and presentation engine known as Avalon, a new communications architecture called Indigo and a new file system known as WinFS.

Discuss.
 
Judging by the screenies and reviews that I have seen, it looks like a crappy reskin of XP. And judging by my experience with XP SP1, it is still very unstable. (I know poeple who have had good luck with it, and people who have had ****ty luck. My computer crashed 2-3 times/day, but goes for weeks without a reboot under Linux. Unacceptable.)

I actually knew a kid who located a copy of "Longhorn" in a pirated software market in India. The only significant difference I saw (in the short time I used it) was that the system tools were more naturally grouped and device management was better.

Question: Is it known if Longhorn will still use the FAT/FAT32/NTFS file system architecture? IMO 20% of windows problems are traced to this archaic design.
 
Did you read the quote? It uses WinFS file system. And a boot-legged, pre-beta version of any software is hardly indicative of what the final release will be. I'm looking forward to this Longhorn.

Oh, and I've only had one crash with XP. I never, ever turn my computer off either. Windows 98... now that is a piece of crap. XP is good. So is NT. And that's why.
 
Sorry about the double post, but I founf this and thought it would contribute to the discussion:
A thororough review of Longhorn betas.

I only skimmed it, but it appears that predicatbly, Mr. Gates has focused on animations, video and other such filligree that does not contribute to the ease of use but just adds that wow factor. Just like OSX, which looks great but is not conducive to work (have you tried to do development work on a Mac? Ha!), Longhorn will require yet more expensive video cards and processors, but not improve the speed and not improve the ease of use. Windows XP can't do anything better than NT 4.0 could, but runs a h*ll of a lot slower on old machines. Where is the progress?
 
Originally posted by milefile
Did you read the quote? It uses WinFS file system.
I meant, will Windows machines still need defragging or will they finally get smart about allocating sectors.
 
From what I've heard, the Longhorn beta's that were leaked were very unstable. I've seen the interface, and it's not too bad. I'm anticipating it's release.
 
Is you PC ready for Longhorn?

Yes, But It Will Never See It As Longhorn Will Include TC Which Is Basicly Anti-Piracy/Anti-Open Source And Im A Heavy Pirate/OpenSource User
 
Originally posted by spock
Yes, But It Will Never See It As Longhorn Will Include TC Which Is Basicly Anti-Piracy/Anti-Open Source And Im A Heavy Pirate/OpenSource User
Exactly. And, Sunny, unless you get some legit copies of Flash etc, I certainly wouldn't be anticopating anything.

I think I'll stick with 2000 Pro for as long as I can.
 
Originally posted by Sage
Is your PC ready for Longhorn?

Hrmm, I'm pretty sure mine's not... :D
Ahh, Macs suck!

But that whole TC thing might move me to Linux in a few years. I'll hold onto 2000 Pro for now, but eventually....
 
Well, I just hope longhorn wasn't as much of a screwup as ME was. I'm also hoping that linux will dethrone Bill Gates before that time, so that we'll all be running on the better system...
 
I'm sticking to my XP Pro Sp1 which I have had 1 crash (not including the mobo freezing from high fsb) in the 3-4 months I've had it. The longest uptime I've had is 6days and that is heavily overclocked too with no crashes.

Anyway, when it comes to upgrade from XP Pro I would probably go straight to Linux.
 
If I wanted to be rude, I could retort to Sage's comment with, "Well, it doesn't do anything, that's why." But, I don't care, if you want a Mac, get a Mac.

I just prefer PC, myself. Mine works fine with XP, so I'm in no rush for Longhorn. What I do know that this might be the least needed thing on my list of pc products. I do know that my system could manhandle it, though. :D
 
My longest uptime is a few weeks. :D Of course my computer isn't overclocked...

Originally posted by Cobraboy
The longest uptime I've had is 6days and that is heavily overclocked too with no crashes.




I think I'll do the same thing. After I upgrade my computer (or build a new one) I am going to install Linux.

Anyway, when it comes to upgrade from XP Pro I would probably go straight to Linux.
 
The next phase in Microsoft's TC crap is hardware based - meaning that the hardware won't allow unsupported/illegit/open source OS'es to run :irked:
 
Originally posted by Super-Supra
What's exactly is so good about Linux?


Basically with Linux, I like the fact that it is open source code.

Basically, this means you can go in and look around to see where the error is, whereas with XP or other Windows programming, you have to reformat to fix problems.

Saves time, and there are some neat tricks you can pull with it. :D
 
Originally posted by Integra Type R
My longest uptime is a few weeks. :D Of course my computer isn't overclocked...


I'll get better uptimes in the winter when it's cold enough to turn the fans off, so damn loud :irked:
 
Originally posted by emad
The next phase in Microsoft's TC crap is hardware based - meaning that the hardware won't allow unsupported/illegit/open source OS'es to run :irked:

So build your own computer with hardware that wont be affected. Anything software based can be fixed, everytime they release some new anti copy thing people find ways around it.
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
So build your own computer with hardware that wont be affected. Anything software based can be fixed, everytime they release some new anti copy thing people find ways around it.
Yeah, true. Unfortunately I believe that Intel is in on this TC thing, so Pentium chips are out. I was always an Intel fan myself.
 
Originally posted by skip0110
Yeah, true. Unfortunately I believe that Intel is in on this TC thing, so Pentium chips are out. I was always an Intel fan myself.

I dont think the processor itself would be able to do things like that but I'm not into all this hardware stuff so I wouldn't really know.
 
No thats not really what I meant. I dont really know if its the processor or the motherboard, but I read some sort of press-release kind of thing that said (approximately) that MS and Intel were partners to develop "next generation technologies" to prevent pirating. I think the hardware will hold some sort of unique ID, to that a software product can only work on one computer.

But I think that the same technology could be used to "lock" you into using certian software (think Microsoft OSes) just as XBOXes must use the XBOX interface.
 
Originally posted by skip0110
No thats not really what I meant. I dont really know if its the processor or the motherboard, but I read some sort of press-release kind of thing that said (approximately) that MS and Intel were partners to develop "next generation technologies" to prevent pirating. I think the hardware will hold some sort of unique ID, to that a software product can only work on one computer.

But I think that the same technology could be used to "lock" you into using certian software (think Microsoft OSes) just as XBOXes must use the XBOX interface.

True but unlike a console where you are stuck with whatever hardware is given to you, computers can be built with other parts. If that means I have to switch to non intel parts then thats a move I'm willing ot make, also nothing is wrong with keeping XP either, I dont need longhorn.
 

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