Is your PC ready for Longhorn?

Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
True but unlike a console where you are stuck with whatever hardware is given to you, computers can be built with other parts. If that means I have to switch to non intel parts then thats a move I'm willing ot make, also nothing is wrong with keeping XP either, I dont need longhorn.
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The Trusted Computing Group (TCG) is an alliance of Microsoft, Intel, IBM, HP and AMD which promotes a standard for a `more secure' PC. Their definition of `security' is controversial; machines built according to their specification will be more trustworthy from the point of view of software vendors and the content industry, but will be less trustworthy from the point of view of their owners. In effect, the TCG specification will transfer the ultimate control of your PC from you to whoever wrote the software it happens to be running. (Yes, even more so than at present.)

Perhaps they'll still make chips without TC...?
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
True but unlike a console where you are stuck with whatever hardware is given to you, computers can be built with other parts. If that means I have to switch to non intel parts then thats a move I'm willing ot make, also nothing is wrong with keeping XP either, I dont need longhorn.

not that easy. The hardware and software are going to be dependent upon eachother for the encryption. Meaning, the OS won't boot if the hardware isn't supportive and the hardware won't boot if the OS/software isn't authorised...

We'll see how things go. As it is, microsoft stands to risk losing an ENORMOUS and almost complete loss in sales if they go through with a complete palladium setup. The other problem is that microsoft is trying team up with Apple computers for the hardware bit too - apple has the most to lose to piracy and the ever-exanding world of Linux on Apples. They'll probably oblige to microsoft's schemes...


basically, it boils down to us being ****ed and the possible future destruction of the great open source community
 
Originally posted by emad
not that easy. The hardware and software are going to be dependent upon eachother for the encryption. Meaning, the OS won't boot if the hardware isn't supportive and the hardware won't boot if the OS/software isn't authorised...

We'll see how things go. As it is, microsoft stands to risk losing an ENORMOUS and almost complete loss in sales if they go through with a complete palladium setup. The other problem is that microsoft is trying team up with Apple computers for the hardware bit too - apple has the most to lose to piracy and the ever-exanding world of Linux on Apples. They'll probably oblige to microsoft's schemes...


basically, it boils down to us being ****ed and the possible future destruction of the great open source community

Which is a great point. Whoever makes an OS/Hardware that isn't "TC" will gain the whole "Do It Yourself" sales, since everyone would hate having that. So, if a new CPU company comes out, and a few mobo makes still do without TC, then they will do well. I also think Linux, if micromama does as they say they will, will start doing amazing.

I can tell you right now, though, no mor prebuilt PCs.
 
Originally posted by emad
not that easy. The hardware and software are going to be dependent upon eachother for the encryption. Meaning, the OS won't boot if the hardware isn't supportive and the hardware won't boot if the OS/software isn't authorised...

Software can be manipulated, I'm sure some type of "mod chip" will be develloped that lets the software work without the hardware supporting it.
 
Originally posted by Super-Supra
I guess I'll be doing the same. I'm not sure but is it possible to build Macs? Or do you have to buy them pre-built.

Only pre-built

I always bought pre built PC's but its alot cheaper and better to do it yourself.
 
I build it myself and if it gets screwed up, i use the manufacturer's warranty to take care of the problems I can't fix myself :D.
 
I've built mine myself, and nothings gone wrong with it...yet :D

Running 500mhz above standard it'd be nice to know how long it will last before it spits the dummy :D.
 
Originally posted by Cobraboy
I've built mine myself, and nothings gone wrong with it...yet :D

Running 500mhz above standard it'd be nice to know how long it will last before it spits the dummy :D.
Built my 'puter, 260MHz about stock. It was only an Athlon 1600+, so the stock was 1400MHz, a 260MHz jump isn't that bad. Puts it with 2000+s, and i've got a 316MHz FSB, which is very nice on an athlon.

My video card is also OCed to 210 from 175, RAM from 334 to 360.
 
theoretically, my radeon 8500 is capable of being overclocked by about 50% and still be very very stable. The problem is that I'm too lazy to solder the resistors onto it :P.

I'll have to see some day how far I can push my 1900+.

btw burnout - did you by any chance do the pencil trick?
 
I have a PII 600mhz running XP Pro, so I would think that my 3.2ghz with a gb of ram oughta handle longhorn, but then again....we are talking 2-3 years. That's about the time it takes me to replace my primary computer.
 
Originally posted by emad
theoretically, my radeon 8500 is capable of being overclocked by about 50% and still be very very stable. The problem is that I'm too lazy to solder the resistors onto it :P.

I'll have to see some day how far I can push my 1900+.

btw burnout - did you by any chance do the pencil trick?
Nope, and I'm pretty sure the multi is unlocked on this one, although I haven't changed it. I'll beed a better mobo to do that. All I did was change the bus from 133 to 158, haven't even jumped the voltage.

And, Pako, that 'tar...
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More than Intel and Microsoft are members of the Trusted Computing Platform Alliance, or whatever it's called (they keep changing their name every time they get attention). Companies include AMD, Pheonix,.......... oh screw it, go read up on it at http://slashdot.org and http://www.againsttcpa.com/ . I'm sure there are many other places for information on this, but I'm far to tired to find them.
 

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