Italia - Anyone? C'e' Nessuno?

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maxdb71
What are U currently doing in US ?

Ciao !

What am I doing here in Mississippi, you ask?

I am going to University - MSU, Mississippi State University, that is.

Currently double majoring in Aerospace Engineering and Mechanical Engineering.
Why getting only one degree, when you can get two at the (almost) same time (by taking almost twice the load than the average American takes, that is)? :D :sly:

I will graduate in May 2006 - the end is close :cheers: One more year!

Going back to Italy this Summer, though. As I have been doing every Summer.
Can't stay away from home, pasta, pizza - the way they are MEANT to be done 👍 - for too long. I have to have it my way at least 3 months a year :D

The Wizard.
 
TheWizard
What am I doing here in Mississippi, you ask?

I am going to University - MSU, Mississippi State University, that is.

Currently double majoring in Aerospace Engineering and Mechanical Engineering.
Why getting only one degree, when you can get two at the (almost) same time (by taking almost twice the load than the average American takes, that is)? :D :sly:

I will graduate in May 2006 - the end is close :cheers: One more year!

Going back to Italy this Summer, though. As I have been doing every Summer.
Can't stay away from home, pasta, pizza - the way they are MEANT to be done 👍 - for too long. I have to have it my way at least 3 months a year :D

The Wizard.

Congrats man ! 👍
I ignore the way university is based on in US ; I suppose that you should attend specific courses / classes in a semester - with several attempts - rather than prepare an exam at a certain time as in Italy. You should have a huge load of work (but correct if I'm wrong ; many courses - such as physics, mats - should be more or less the same - at least the "basics").
May I wish you a great success !

Is GT4 part of your homework ? ;-) Ah, ah

Have a nice weekend !
 
Scusami, I meant to reply to your message a long time ago, maxdb71.
I have been busy with the University and playing GT4 in my free time :D

You wanted to know how the University works here, so here it goes.

You take a certain number of courses (minimum load to be considered 'Full Time Student' is 12 hours per semester). Most of the courses are worth three hours each (by that, it's meant that you go attend that course three times a week - Monday, Wednesday, Friday - for 50 minutes each day, or two times a week - Tuesday, Thursday - for 75 minutes each day - as you can see they add up to the same amount, 150 minutes, each week). Labs are worth (usually) just one hour, even if you usually go at least 3 hours, one particular day of the week (or split in two days - really depends on the situation).

The course work is divided into homework assignments (that need to be turned in on time and are graded), tests, and a final exam. They are worth a certain percentage of the final grade (usually the teacher is the one that decides how much everything is worth, and it communicates that to the students at the beginning of the semester, in the syllabus). Example: assignments 15% - tests (3 or 4, sometimes 5 are given) 50% - final exam 35% - total possible = 100%.

The grading is divided as follows:
A = 90 - 100%
B = 80 - 89%
C = 70 - 79%
D = 60 - 69%

And so forth.

It's not at all like in the Universities in Italy. A final grade of C or above will grant you passing the course. Therefore you can archive it, and move on to the next course. Anything below C means failing, and you have to retake the whole course - it's not like in Italy, where you can just attend the whole entire course once, and if you fail the exam, all you have to do is show up to the next session. Here when you fail, you fail. You have to redo all the work again.

The good points, though, are:

1) Homework Assignments and Tests take up a huge portion of your grade, therefore you can afford to do halfway decent on your Final Exam and still get a good final grade (provided you had a good average on the Homework Assignments and the Tests - which by the way, are usually graded on a 100 point scale)

2) The Final Exam only consists in a Written Exam (at least in the University where I am - MSU) - no Oral Exams here. That's a BIG plus

3) The teachers (some of them, at least) curve the grades: if the class average for a particular test is quite low, the teacher will take the highest grade of the class and add to it (and everybody else's test grade) the amount of points needed for that one test to get bumped to a grade of 100. Example, let's say the class average is a 65 (very bad), and the higest grade is an 85, the teacher will add to that test 15 points (in order to bump IT to 100) and then add 15 points to everybody else's test grade.

4) If a teacher doesn't usually curve, he would give at least some bonus points, if the average is extremely bad, or give some extra take home work for the students willing to do it and bump their grades, or even regive the whole entire test again (sometimes the same one, most of the times a different one) and average the two, or drop the lowest indivudual grade. The possibilities are endless - here the teachers are really willing to help the students. I can't say the same about the teachers in Italian Universities: I was in Universita' di Padova, before ending up here - I hated it.

5) Teachers always welcome you when you go to their offices and ask questions.

Not every teacher curves the grades, though, and most of the times there will always be the mofo that makes a 95, therefore killing the curve (only 5 points will be added to everybody's test grade) - I am, most of the time that mofo :D

This semester I am taking 21 hours worth of course work (as I did last semester) - which implies I am taking 6 regular courses (@ 3 hours each) and 1 laboratory course (@ 3 hours). The average American takes 15 hours per semester (5 courses).

So, yes, I am pretty busy with College work, right now :sly:

Hope my description helps you figure out the American Education system (which, if you haven't understood so far, is way better than the Italian one - in my opinion, at least).

Ciao.

P.S. GT4 is not part of my homework, but is what I do mostly in my (albeit rare) free time :D

The Wizard.
 
T13R
One more italian here... well, born in Canada but from italian parents who immigrated here. Would of been from Molise, Campobasso area. I speak italian fairly fluently and can write it pretty well also... I'm lucky my parents decided to keep true to their native tongue, and not switch over to english / french when speaking to me. ( mostly french over here ).

It's nice to see other italians around at GTP :)
In terms of cars though, I prefer ze Germanz... ( Does that make me a bad italian? :P)


You must be kidding right, my grand parents come from Campobasso Molise too!

Woah! And we are 250 km apart! :embarrassed:

I'm amazed!
 
Cool 👍

I have 'relatives' in Canada. Guelph to be precise.

By the way, welcome to the Italian/Half-Italian Team, Div is back :D

The Wizard.
 
My name is Matteo :lol:

Imagine that... Find somebody in a Forum, that lives close (relatively) to some of my distant relatives, and his name is the same (almost) as mine :D

The Wizard.
 
Same thing for me! TI3R is living in Montreal, which is 250 km away from me, and his origins are from Molise, Campobasso, same as me! Talk about coincidence!
 
Uhm, I know DeVito (Danny, the actor, that is) :lol:

I personally do not know any Di Vita, and I have never heard of it, as a second name.

These are the top 10 most common Italian second names, where the first one is the most common:

1) Rossi
2) Ferrari
3) Russo
4) Bianchi
5) Colombo
6) Esposito
7) Ricci
8) Romano
9) Conti
10) Costa

I found it in Google - it's not like I remembered them on top of my head :D
I knew Ferrari, Rossi and Bianchi were pretty common.

The Wizard.
 
In Canada If I present proof that my grand parents were Italian I can reveice the Italian civilians rights, well I would be considered an Italian, I'd like to go study there, or in France, do you any info on how it cost or others infos on the scholar system over there?
 
I will be glad to help you out and let you know some information about Italian Universities (from which I escaped, by the way - I am studying in the States, way better system. Look a few posts up).

Right now I am studying for a Chemistry II test that I have tomorrow, so I am going to have to ask you to wait until whenever I get a chance, I have a busy week coming up at the University, and I won't have much time for who knows how long.

Are you interested in Universities?
Any in particular?

The Wizard.
 
Well up here in Quebec it's no high school, its like we have 5 years of secondary, then we go on to CEGEP for 2 or 3 years and then University, but I'd be interested for a Business university or administration.
 
Div is back
I'd be interested for a Business university or administration.

I'll see what I can do, even if I don't know much about Universities that specialize in Business or Administration.

Completely different field for me: Engineering. Aerospace and Mechanical, that is ;)

Will get back to you in a few days.

Now I absolutely HAVE to study. Not to be rude or anything, but I hate Chemistry and any distraction is a good excuse for me to quit studying and take a break. And since I am doing problems on a computer, I have easy access to all the distractions in the World (GTPlanet). Therefore, so far, it's not working out too good :D

But I have to study.

Keep repating to self: have to study have to study have to study...

The Wizard.
 
Div is back
You must be kidding right, my grand parents come from Campobasso Molise too!

Woah! And we are 250 km apart! :embarrassed:

I'm amazed!
Wow, didn't think you were italian also, and even less that your grand parents would be from Campobasso area. To be more specific, my parents are from Pietracatella, a very small village in the Campobasso area of Molise. What's even more freaky is the fact that I actually know some Di Vita's here in Montreal. Did you ever live here at some point?
 
TheWizard
Scusami, I meant to reply to your message a long time ago, maxdb71.
I have been busy with the University and playing GT4 in my free time :D

You wanted to know how the University works here, so here it goes.


The Wizard.

Ciao Matteo aka The Wizard !
Thanks 4 your clear explanation.
I agree with you when you say that American Education system is way better than the Italian one.
So you'll come up an Engineer. Will you work in the US or will you come back in Italy ?
Ciao !
 
Giancarlo
Speaking of which i just bought an Alfa GT. I wish it drove as beautifully as it looks.

Hi Giancarlo !
I'd love to buy that car too ; I've tested the diesel version and I was positively surprised of the response.
Have you seen the new Alfa Brera Coupè ?
Ciao !
 
TheWizard
Ferrari 👍
Fiat 👎
:D
Trust me...
It's just like you all Americans' stereotype about Ford...
Fiat is the Italian version of that stereotype... (Italian) Friends don't let (Italian) friends drive/buy Fiat :D

The Wizard.

Im a 1 ST gen american but my parents were asses and didnt teach me it well enough and i couldnt put a sentance together but i remember some words :dunce:
 
No but I got cousins at St Julie, and in the area of Montreal.

Do you have any names of Di Vita that you know?
My relation with my cousins is newly borned, there was some family problems and my parents distanced themselves from the Di Vita's family, I learned about my Di Vita's family just 3 months ago! It was shocking!

Anyway, what Di Vita do you know?
 
I'm of Italian descent myself, on my mom's side. The family name is Franceschi. I actually went to Italy last year. Went to Roma, train to Venezia, and drove up to Lago di Garda, where we spent a night before driving on up to my family hometown, the tiny village of Vergonzo, high in the Alps, close to the Austrian and Swiss borders. In fact, the village fell into Austrian control at the turn of the century, which is why my grandfather and his family left.
 
Ciao a tutti
italiani pochini, insomma :)
ma mi fa piacere vedere tanti aspiranti e parenti di italiani.
Complimenti per il bronze member (come funzionano gli update dello status?)
Intanto, tanto per non restare con le mani in mano, sto aiutando Famine a finire il database delle macchine usate. Non essendo interessato ai colori delle auto, una buona metà del "succo" l'ho fatta io.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58535&page=6

translation:
hi guys
not much italians here
I'm glad to see many people with parents here, or italian language students
[to Wizard] Greetings for your membership status. I'm working with Famine to complete the used cars database (PAL version). See link above or later pages, if expired.
 
maxdb71
So you'll come up an Engineer. Will you work in the US or will you come back in Italy ?
Ciao !

Yep, and I am loving it so far. Coming here in the States and study is one of the best experiences I could have ever had. It's making me more mature and responsible by the day (living here practically by myself, with nobody but a few friends, really makes you take a full bite of the real world). I make my own decisions, I have my responsibilities, nobody is pushing me to do good in College. I do. I am mature enough to know and be completely able to be self sufficient, 9 months at a time. I go home for the Summer, and that's just because I need some good food and see my family and friends, once in a while.

I don't really know what I will be doing when I am done with my current degrees. Maybe continue for my Master's. Maybe start working for some company. Whether here (in the States) or back home (in Italy) or somewhere else in Europe, I don't know.

If it will be the States, I can tell you it won't be here in Mississippi, though. I hate it too much :D

On another note:

Welcome to the following new 3 additions to the Italian Club 👍

Gun Gray
Im a 1 ST gen american but my parents were asses and didnt teach me it well enough and i couldnt put a sentance together but i remember some words :dunce:

Takumi Fujiwara
I'm of Italian descent myself, on my mom's side. The family name is Franceschi. I actually went to Italy last year. Went to Roma, train to Venezia, and drove up to Lago di Garda, where we spent a night before driving on up to my family hometown, the tiny village of Vergonzo, high in the Alps, close to the Austrian and Swiss borders. In fact, the village fell into Austrian control at the turn of the century, which is why my grandfather and his family left.

You sure visited some of our nicest places 👍
You can never go wrong with the Alps, very beautiful mountains.

Duck
Ciao a tutti
italiani pochini, insomma :)
ma mi fa piacere vedere tanti aspiranti e parenti di italiani.
Complimenti per il bronze member (come funzionano gli update dello status?)
Intanto, tanto per non restare con le mani in mano, sto aiutando Famine a finire il database delle macchine usate. Non essendo interessato ai colori delle auto, una buona metà del "succo" l'ho fatta io.

Grazie per i complimenti e benvenuto in GTPlanet, Duck.
Thanks for the compliments and welcome to GTPlanet, Duck.

Also, good job on the guide 👍
It's amazing that Famine is letting a New Member helping him :lol: ;)

Ciao e buon weekend a tutti!

The Wizard.
 
I'd like to learn Italian a bit more, but no class are given as an option at my school, right now I'm using the Oxford travel book in Italian, it teaches me the basic stuff but what do you recommend to learn Italian?
 
It's kinda hard to give any good recommendation on how to learn a language.

For example, I went through 8 years of English in my pre-University education in Italy. We learned a lot of grammar rules, sentence structures, in other words, the basics.

But I didn't really learn English, how to speak it, how to pronounce words properly, how to undertand and say particular expressions, meanings, subtleties, until I came here in the States and I was completely immersed in nothing but English language: TV, Radio, People.

I have to say that the first three months spent here in the States improved my English and my skills with this language more than the 8 years spent in Italy learning it the Academic way.

When you are completely surrounded by a language that's not your own, when all you hear from anything/anyone around you is a language that's not your own, when you are forced to speak it and understand it, that's when you really learn it.

So, it looks like you are going to have to go to Italy, my friend :D :lol:

No, really. Before you would want to do that, though, you need at least some basics, or else you will be completely lost. I would suggest you to take courses, but you said that they are not currently offered. Do your parents know any Italian? Another way would be to buy self-teaching books, but you would need to find at least some audio material as well, because it's almost impossible to learn the correct pronounciation with the aid of written material only.

The Wizard.
 
I got a self teaching book and cd's, my nona speaks italian all the time, I call her sometime and speak in italian with her. It's very useful!
 

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