Japanese with US cars..

[GTO_VR4]

Has the Japanese ever got hold of a , lets say a mustang and unlocked its true potential? or any car of that matter?

 

[1X83Z]

Its true potential?

You mean like oil leaks and poor brake linings?

 

[SaleenASL]

what the hell does this post say? what were u trying to say GTO?

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

 

[SaleenASL]

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

 

[SaleenASL]

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

 

[psonefreak]

hahahah

 

[SaleenASL]

someone put the *clamp* on this thread. nothing can save it now. 2pts...in the trash can.

 

[Joey D]

Umm a Japanese mustang? HAHAHAHAHA

 

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by GTO_VR4
Has the Japanese ever got hold of a , lets say a mustang and unlocked its true potential? or any car of that matter?

Boy did I get in late on this one. The monkey's cool, though.

The "Japanese" have had Mustangs available for years. They found far more reliable engines and drivetrains right at home. There's also the fact that they can't pronounce "displacement" very well.

 

[Talentless]

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Originally posted by Hooligan
There's also the fact that they can't pronounce "displacement" very well.

So bad! But so funny!

 

[GTO_VR4]

how many liters does the mustang have 5.0 right? and how much HP does it have 200-300hp? doesnt that seem kinda odd?

Compared to the lancer evo VII with its 1.9L engine making as much as a mustake

What Im trying to say is that the Mustang engine is insufficient...

BTW this was a mustang bash

 

[Talentless]

The word is inefficient, and the comparison is unfair since you are comparing different engines/ technolgy with each other and the engines are tuned to meet different interests. And I believe the Lancer is turbo charged.

 

[GTO_VR4]

yea thats what i meant, my mistake..and the evoVII is turbocharged..


Does anyone know how much hp per litre does the mustang make?

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Originally posted by Talentless
The word is ineffient, and the comparison is unfair since you are comparing different engines/ technolgy with each other and the engines are tuned to meet different interests. And I believe the Lancer is turbo charged.

I'm not sure that the comparison is unfair. Ultimately, you're looking at the Lancer being smaller, lighter, more fuel-efficient, and having superior roadholding, due in no small part to the lack of an enormous lump of pig-iron under the bonnet.

However, if you wish to go down the route of discounting turbo engines, you've only to look at any Type-R engine, all of which produce enormous headline power figures. I know the Mustang would waste them on torque, but think about the relative size of a Mustang and S2000.

You are right in that the engines are tuned to meet different interests though, but if you're going to play that card, it's impossible to compare any pair of cars made for different markets. This is probably why American muscle cars don't sell well in Japan.

 

[Talentless]

It is not about discounting turbo charging, it is that turbo charging usually inflates hp a fair amount. Does the high efficiency of one engine make other types of engines inefficient?

 

[1mic]

what he's saying is does- Japan have a hold of corvettes, vipers, mustangs....
cuz here in US we rarely see Skylines, EVO's and all those Japan supercars,
cus if its hard to bring Skylines here it must be harder to bring Vipers to Japan for obvious reasons but DOES japan have it?

 

[Ryan2]

Originally posted by Rumple Foreskin

Where do you get those pictures?

 

[1X83Z]

He got them from MistaX.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Originally posted by Talentless
Does the high efficiency of one engine make other types of engines inefficient?

Err. Yes actually. If one engine is extraordinarily efficient, then others less efficient are comparatively inefficient.

You just have to pick your rules. Are you talking about fuel economy? Specific output? PWR of the car? PWR of the engine itself? You can't just say "One engine is better than another" without delineating your method of assessment.

That said, the engine in an Evo VII or S2000 would probably have more favourable figures than a Mustang in all of the above categories.

 

[1X83Z]

Not raw muscle.

Er ... fine, muscle isn't scientifically measurable...

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Well you'll note I didn't mention torque...

 

[Ryan2]

Originally posted by M5Power
He got them from MistaX.

Where'd MistaX get them?

 

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by 1mic
what he's saying is does- Japan have a hold of corvettes, vipers, mustangs....
cuz here in US we rarely see Skylines, EVO's and all those Japan supercars,
cus if its hard to bring Skylines here it must be harder to bring Vipers to Japan for obvious reasons but DOES japan have it?

The cars exist there, but because of taxes and fuel costs, anything larger than a 4-cylinder is almost impossible to own. Then there's the size factor. Japan has a thing with making small, usually efficient products. The cars are small, so only small engines are "needed". The need for speed is satisfied in other ways, namely forced induction and short gear ratios. You may not get above 150MPH often -- there's hardly any room on the highways -- but you'll get to 100MPH in a *real* short time.

In contrast, the US has the vast open MidWest. Large engines with high torque, combined with tall gear ratios make for a more comfortable cruise when travelling the long, straight interstates. That kind of travel just doesn't exist in Japan. I'm sure they'd love to have a Viper, but they'd never get out of second gear.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

i didnt get them directly off mista X

josh once put up a link that i followed and it took me to those silly pics

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Originally posted by Hooligan
You may not get above 150MPH often -- there's hardly any room on the highways -- but you'll get to 100MPH in a *real* short time.

All cars sold in Japan under standard domestic rules are limited to 112mph (180km/h), so you'll never get to 150!

 

[Talentless]

Compared to, yes, but I'm talking about compared to more similar engines. My point is that while the Mustang's engine is not as efficient as the Lancer's, that superiority does not make the mustang inefficient among engine types which more closely match it in terms of disp., no. cyl. and level of build quality.