Jv says damage is done

[Mr Devil]

Ok here it is and its just proving what i said...


Villeneuve admits BAR damage is done
The Canadian is in a difficult situation [31/07/03 - 19:51]

Jacques Villeneuve admitted here Thursday that the damage done to his reputation by the management at his BAR-Honda team could force him out of Formula One at the end of the year.

Villeneuve, speaking ahead of Sunday's German Grand Prix, appeared downbeat after putting up with constant jibes against him throughout what has been his toughest year in Formula One. The Canadian former world champion has been out of favour since current boss David Richards ousted his manager Craig Pollock as team principal at the start of last season.

Villeneuve admitted : "There has been a lot of negative undercurrents and I have been living with that for a while now. The damage has been done so there is no need for it any more." Asked if the damage was terminal, Villeneuve pondered cautiously before adding : "No, it is just that my reputation has been damaged by it all and I will just have to pay the price for it."

Villeneuve, who won the world title with Williams in 1997, joined BAR when the team was set up by Pollock in 1999 but suffered season upon season of disappointments under his manager's reign. He admitted the team has "made huge progress" this year but he has suffered consistent bad luck and has scored just three points after failing to finish in more than half of this season's races.

His British team-mate Jenson Button, has scored 11 points and the team appear to be building around the 23-year-old driver while pushing Villeneuve further onto the sidelines.

Even so, Villeneuve admitted the driver market "doesn't seem very open" and his best bet of staying in Formula One is to retain his seat with BAR. Rumours in the Italian press had linked him to Ferrari, where world champion Michael Schumacher and Brazilian Rubens Barrichello are under contract until at least the end of next year. But Villeneuve insisted he is not actively looking to move to another team and quickly scotched rumours that Ferrari, with whom his father Gilles drove in the 1980s, had come calling for him. "The only team where you would probably go without thinking would be Ferrari," admitted Villeneuve. "But I am not sure where that link came from because I have not had a chat with anyone from Ferrari."

Schumacher, when asked about the speculation in a press conference earlier in the day, also rubbished the rumours and said : "I don't see any seriousness in that honestly. I think we want to improve our situation."

Villeneuve believes the criticism would end if he does somehow manage to secure a contract with BAR for next year, but he insisted he will never forget what he has been through. "If we agree and we still work together with this team next year then I guess all this has been done before resigning a contract here," he said. "If something was decided there wouldn't be any need for it any more, would there?"

Asked if he could forgive and forget, he added : "Not that, I don't think it would happen, because the damage has been done already. There is nothing else to damage."



Ouch... not another season whit the mo........ well whit bar

(sry giles im takin over the swear thing)

 

[sn00pie]

Boo - hoo; Jacques.

 

[Nismo GT-R]

I said he was gonna be out of a job at the end of the season!

 

[Rue]

I think BAR should get rid of JV without delay. Button has consistently outperformed Jacques, especially in qualifying (where JV is supposed to be one of the best). How many times has Jacques put the car off the track both in racing and qualifying this season? Does anyone know? I'll bet it's a fair few times.

I like this comment by Michael, when asked about the possibility of Jacques joining Ferrari...

Schumacher, when asked about the speculation in a press conference earlier in the day, also rubbished the rumours and said : "I don't see any seriousness in that honestly. I think we want to improve our situation."

 

[kristof]

For Jacques to blame BAR for his situation is ridiculous! Admittedly the car has let him down but he's let them down with silly offs and lacklustre performances through the season! And in the last 2 races his team mate has come from way behind on the grid, passed Jacques and gone on to score points. Just because he now has to share 'his' team with his team mate, he's not happy.

 

[Mr Devil]

lol 2 out of 4 of u i*****..... ok sry not bright guys... are brits... n-e-wayz u gotta think strategy (and Button dint alwayz out perform jv)... Jv went for less pit stops instead of starting position since the begening of the year (i am having so much troble containing myself of lashing out on theses guys....) AND HE IS RIGHT BLAMING BAR!!! ARE YOU ALL BLIND??? GOD!..... ok sry...

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by Mr Devil
lol 2 out of 4 of u i*****..... ok sry not bright guys... are brits... n-e-wayz u gotta think strategy (and Button dint alwayz out perform jv)... Jv went for less pit stops instead of starting position since the begening of the year (i am having so much troble containing myself of lashing out on theses guys....) AND HE IS RIGHT BLAMING BAR!!! ARE YOU ALL BLIND??? GOD!..... ok sry...

Mmmm...

Let me check your location. Oh, there we go.

I'm quite mixed about Jacques - I was fortunate enough to witness his first GP at Melbourne in '96, and it was pretty obvious he was a special talent then.

Since Williams went to the Supertec (or Mecachrome, or whatever the old engine motors were called that week), though, there really hasn't been much sign of him, and BAR has really been a bit of a disaster for him - particularly now that his much younger, and more to the point, much CHEAPER team-mate is perceived as outperforming.

F1 is on the brink of a major generational shift - there's quite a few of the old guard going out the door this year, and JV will probably be one of them.

I'll personally be a bit sad, because I think his career is one of wasted potential. If he'd been at McLaren in the late 90's, it could have all been very different. I'm sure he had his reasons for the BAR experiment (that is, aside from Craig Pollock).

 

[Mr Devil]

FINALY SOMEONE WHO MAKES SENS (even if it aint that much positive...) i agree about almost evrything exept the fact that Jv will be out of f1...

 

[kristof]

Takuma Sato will be in the B.A.R. next year as he doesn't demand the ridiculous wages that Jacques does. Then they'll have the money to develop the car rather than funding the running of Newtown! As for me being a brit, it's irrelevant! Jacques heyday was racing for a British team, he races for a British team now! I'm British yet I support Kimi Raikonnen, mainly due to being lucky enough to see him race in Formula Renault in 2000! Jacques WAS a good driver, his world championship proves it (even if he was in vastly superior machinery!) However it went to his head and he believed he was more valuable than he actually is! Thje difference between him and Schumacher is that whilst Ferrari where midfield Schumacher didn't complain and got on with the job of developing the car and the team! Jacques seemed to think that being a former world champion was enough and he didn't have to do anything else! He appears to be struggling to realise that his time in F1 is coming to an end.

 

[Mr Devil]

Shumi is the one that makes the most money in F1 and Ferrari manages to develop the team... and AGAIN!!!! Jv ask money cuz BAR is ruining is Image and evrything ok! Jv would drive 4 free whit a good team! Omg dont yall read whut whe say

 

[kristof]

His demanding a huge slary in the first place is what gave Jacques the reputation he has!
Scumacher may be payed more but this is because Ferrari have a larger budget than B.A.R. they have 2 large sponsors in Marlboro and Vodafone and don't forget that the only reason ferrari make road cars is to fund the F1 team!
I don't think any of the good teams would touch him with a ten foot barge pole, Williams don't need him, can't see him wanting to be No.2 at Ferrari and McLaren have Raikonnen and Coulthard (who'll more than likely be replaced by Heidfeld after 2004). Theres no chance of anyone other than Briatores drivers driving for Renault, Jaguar have Webber on a long term contract and Wilson will probably be signed for next season as well.Toyota seem happy with their drivers at the moment. Sauber are likely to have Massa back next season alongside Heidfeld. The only place for him to go is down! Can't see him wanting to drive for Jordan or Minardi! The only way he'll ever get into a top car again is as a test driver!
And i still fail to see how B.A.R. are totally at fault for the damage done to his image when his team mate in identical machinery has shone this year?

 

[SandStorm]

Originally posted by chaser_fan
Button has consistently outperformed Jacques, especially in qualifying (where JV is supposed to be one of the best).

Well in that respect I think we need to give Jacques a break - I'll put you in a BAR, of all cars, and see how well you do.

Stick him in a faster car and he'll fly.

That's all I'm saying in his defense, and I still think he's a ********.

 

[sn00pie]

Originally posted by SandStorm
Stick him in a faster car and he'll fly.

That's the stupidest excuse ever! Because, simply, this applies to every driver on the field.

You can put Pizzonia, Wilson, Firman, et cetera in a Ferrari and surely they'll be right up there fighting for 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

 

[Mr Devil]

not likely... they would have the car but not the talent... a bit more work tho and they would be upfront
Jv tho would be up front right away

 

[kristof]

Originally posted by SandStorm
Well in that respect I think we need to give Jacques a break - I'll put you in a BAR, of all cars, and see how well you do.

Stick him in a faster car and he'll fly.

That's all I'm saying in his defense, and I still think he's a ********.

The point is that he's being out performed by Button in an identical car, he wasn't comparing him to any other driver.

 

[Mr Devil]

no no no not indentical... buttons car is better... remember he's brithish! so is David richard's! So is the hole team! A conspiracy agaisnt Jv! I swear!

 

[kristof]

Yeah that must be it, couldn't possibly be anything to do with Jacques, it's everyone elses fault. the team is pretty much the same as the one that he joined in '99, only his manager isn't team principal and giving him all the breaks. Dave Richards has too much on his hands running B.A.R. and the WRC to be bothered with destroying Jacques career when he's doing it to himself!

 

[Mr Devil]

meh! its a conspiracy
(EDIT)(sry i just had an itch to post that pic)

 

[kristof]

I bet you're the sort of person who never ever does anything wrong, it's always someone elses fault. Just the sort of person who needs a good slapping! If you believe that Jacques will always have a hard time in F1 with British teams the he's pretty much screwed! The only top team without a base in England is Ferrari, they won't have him. Sauber would be a step down and his ego wouldn't allow it and Toyota have confirmed a line up for next year. It's Brackley or Bust for Jacques.

 

[Mr Devil]

No not at all and by the way im not blaming evry single brithish person on this earth ok! and he'll probably stay whit Bar 4 another year... well n-e-wayz

bye the way dont attack me personnally i do make errors and **** lil *****

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Originally posted by Mr Devil
no no no not indentical... buttons car is better... remember he's brithish! so is David richard's! So is the hole team! A conspiracy agaisnt Jv! I swear!

Perhaps this is because Jenson is known for being kind and considerate toward his mechanics, whereas Jacques is known for being something of a brat when things aren't working.

Given that a 0.5mm change in ride height can transform a car's handling, it's probably safe to say that a driver should look after their mechanics as much as possible, becuase if the mechanics make a mistake, it's the driver who will suffer. Anecdotal evidence suggests that this is an area in which Jacques is lacking (in contrast with Jenson, Michael Schumacher and Juan-Pablo Montoya to name but three).

Undoubtedly the extended spell at BAR has destroyed any hopes that Jacques may have of getting a competitive ride in the future, but the fact that he's being beaten by someone who at the start of the season he was slating for having "done nothing" is not helping his cause.

 

[Mr Devil]

finally another one that makes sens... even if it aint positive... i agree whit the mecanic thing but i have to say... the first 2 seasons... jv took care of them... today... its like he knos that even if he cheks sumthing will go wrong....