The fact that there are now two distinct halves to the silliness is what makes this section of the website so pitifully toxic. It's a warzone, and any balanced viewpoint lands in crossfire.
Hardly, unless you mean that anything that isn't harshly critical of GT6 is quickly pounced on as defensive.
I've been accused of having nothing negative to say about Gran Turismo. For instance, that I've said that all other games have overly aggressive bots, which is flatly untrue.
Sure, my balance is heavily slanted in favor of Gran Turismo, Polyphony and Kaz, but these are indications commonly associated with being a fan. And jeepers, why would a fan of Gran Turismo join a GT fan site?
There's definitely something off balance though, and that's the critical side. Just ponder this nugget I posted in another thread:
Valid points get completely ground underfoot when people criticize by making harsh, overdone statements. "The cars sound like vacuum cleaners/pencil sharpeners/weed eaters/ripped nylons/mad gerbils/etc."
People mention tipping points, and there's another one where a certain crowd can't say anything good about the game. Can't seem to hold back when someone wants to make a post about something they enjoy about GT6, and tries to inform the universe how wrong headed the previous post was.
Or they're so outraged over the game that they proclaim that they're done with the series, have moved on to other racers because they're done with the series, and hang around routinely reminding everyone that they're done with the series. But will post occasionally things they'd like to see improved, even though they're so done with the series.
This is what's so discouraging to us, that we see a game which is imperfect and want it to be improved, and celebrate what's good about it. Some of you say you want it improved too, but it's hard to tell when some of your remarks almost sound hateful, and some posts are rather derogatory. When supposedly we both want the same thing. Sometimes, it doesn't show.
The game is rotten. The sounds are crap. The bots suck. The physics are wrong. The Standards are ugly. Offline is rubbish. Online is garbage. Every other racer is better. How can anyone with any sense like this?
Is this out of line? Well, let me ask you guys this. How many posts in the sound threads have read like this?
"Some of the cars have pretty bad samples, but some of them do sound rather good." "Some of the cars just need a little more grunt, and they'd be dandy."
And how many sound like this?
"The cars all sound like vacuum cleaners." "They sound so bad it hurts my ears." "I can't play it because the sounds are so terrible."
How many posts resemble these examples? Which one more? And which one sounds like someone encouraging PD to work on improvements? How many of you tell your wives and girlfriends that their cooking is pretty bad, and expect them to know that you have their best interests at heart?
Zuku posted that he didn't appreciate paying $60 for a GT6 beta. Even though everyone knew that GT6 would be released unfinished, and we'd be at PD's mercy as to when they got things updated.
In my case, I was growing tired of GT5 and its flaws: the XP system, B-Spec bots which were reluctant to win, enduros which got insanely long with no way to save mid-race, Race Mod with only 17 cars you can mod up - and with a pathetic livery, a paint shop with no freaking paint, and several other issues. I needed GT6 badly. And I'm still glad I have it. The reason being that other racing games just don't cut it for me, or for millions of other gamers. It's still the best selling racer out on PS3, so clearly it's doing something right, even though it's hard to tell from the attitude around here.
Try and discuss why the sounds aren't bad, or you want the Standard cars and tracks in GT7, or how you manage to have fun racing the bots in single player, or dream about what's coming in GT6 and 7, and be ready to have a few restless natives tell you how wrong headed you are and why you're the reason Gran Turismo never improves.
I like our side more, because even fans of the series have a wide range of views. Some love the Standards, others want them gone, or at least improved. Some are mad for the Livery Editor and Race Mod, others don't care or are afraid of the editor. Some can't wait for the Course Maker, some couldn't care less. Some want the Event Maker right now, others would rather have a better online build, more A-Spec Events and Arcade like it was in GT5. Some want damage like Forza, some prefer the basic stuff we have in GT6 now, maybe a little more. Some like me want an incredibly deep career, in my case an actual Career Mode, a sim-like FIA GT Pro. Others would be fine with GT2, 3 and 4 morphed together.
And when we discuss things, we don't start fights. Usually.
So if you want to know who's causing a lot of the hub-bub here, it's not our side. Usually...
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