Killer Mustang 05 Setting

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Canadian Speed

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Hey guys,

Here's my first attempt at a tuning post. This is for a fully moded 05 Stang. I got a 7:10:XXX time on NUR using this set up. Lemme know what you think... about the settings, not the car.

Front/Rear

SR 14.X/13.X (what ever the last stock number was)
RH 56/56 (one above the bottom)
SB 3/3
SR 6/6
CAM 2.0/1.0
Toe -1/+1
Stab 5/6

Breaks: 13/15

Tires: Racing Hard

LSD: In5/Ac15/De10

ASMO 2
ASMU 2
TCS 6-7

Trans: For Nur, I left it stock, but you can realy make this thing hum if you let it out a bit, either by using the final, or the auto set.

I like this setting, let me know what you guys think. I made a few mistakes on my run. I could have done a lot better. Let me know if you like this style of set up. I've got a few more for a few cars I haven't seen posted yet. Let me know. I kill at setting 4WDs too, for the most part. :sly:
 
Mustang 05 :drool:

I can do 6:33 second laps on the ring with Supersoft race tires.

The 00 SVT cobra R is a little better though. 6:27 on the ring.

Dang I love Stangs 👍

BTW I made a few mistakes with those times :guilty:

so once I get better at driving I can clock faster times :)
 
While everybody should tune their car to suit their driving styles. I really like the way I got the mustang to handle, the settings are on this thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=59136&page=1

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No, theres some a glitch with the all the US copies of gt4. I had over 600 hp.

Try practicing on any circuit with a modified car. When you are done, it shows the stock hp for some reason.
 
The spring settings worked for either Super Charger and also for NA Stage 3... I've also since added a wing (although it's an eye sore IMHO) and added 10 front and 15 in the back and this realy helped to keep the car down and now my time have droped quite a bit. I can get sub seven nearly every time...

P.S. The tires I used were Hard Racers... not super soft. Thought obvisouly this would help a lot, but you can't "race" with em cause of how fast the tires wear out.

P.P.S. If you use hards, note how even and slowly the tires heat up with my settings... good for long races if need be.
 
Canadian Speed
Either or... they both work fine. I used stage 3... but the Charger works just as well...
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I have a very agressive driving style. Therefore I use different settings. I prefer the supercharger even though I get slower times. (the 4 long straights give too much advantage to the lower P to WR) One key thing is doing the "tranny trick" but going the opposite way. Using the motor in the lower rev range is key. Suprisingly, this is a very fun car to drive around the ring. 👍
 
Track_Veteran
I have a very agressive driving style. Therefore I use different settings. I prefer the supercharger even though I get slower times. (the 4 long straights give too much advantage to the lower P to WR) One key thing is doing the "tranny trick" but going the opposite way. Using the motor in the lower rev range is key. Suprisingly, this is a very fun car to drive around the ring. 👍
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I'm sorry... what do you mean by the tranny trick going the opposite way?
 
Canadian Speed
I'm sorry... what do you mean by the tranny trick going the opposite way?
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NM... found it and it does work well.

For those of you who don't know...

The regular trick is to slide the final all the way right to 5.00, then to slide the autoset to 25 and then all the way to 1 to get a super close set up, then you play with the final as the track requires.

I can only assume that what was being suggested was that instead of going all the way to 5.00, you go the other way, then do the 25 then to 1 thing... right? :cheers:
 
The inverse tranny trick is instead of putting the final to 5 you drop it to like 2 or whatever the bottom is then use auto 1 to 25 the adjust final gear.

When using the normal way you RPMs drop to 6k using the inverse method it drop to 5k. This helps cars with tons of low end power. Why go 6k-9k on a power band when you cars' torque peak is at 4800?
 
heres my settings for the 05' stang all race mods stage 3 NA and racing med tires
after a 2 lap warmup on the Ring i put down a hot lap of 6:53 with this set up.

front/rear

spring rate: 10.0/8.0
ride hight: 100/115
shock bound: 4/4
shock rebound: 7/7
camber 3.0/1.5
toe: 0/+2
stabilizers: 6/3

brake balance: 4/2

tranny
auto: 25
final: 2.938

downforce 17/9

LSD
inital: 10
accel: 24
decel: 18

i really like this set up i have abother set up for smoother tracks but generaly i just use this set up and increase the rear spring rate for smoother tracks feel free to post feedback on this setup id really like to know what people think.

NOTE: I trail break if you do all youre brakeing before you turn you my find this a little tight on corner entry.
 
zodicus
heres my settings for the 05' stang all race mods stage 3 NA and racing med tires
after a 2 lap warmup on the Ring i put down a hot lap of 6:53 with this set up.

front/rear

spring rate: 10.0/8.0
ride hight: 100/115
shock bound: 4/4
shock rebound: 7/7
camber 3.0/1.5
toe: 0/+2
stabilizers: 6/3

brake balance: 4/2

tranny
auto: 25
final: 2.938

downforce 17/9

LSD
inital: 10
accel: 24
decel: 18

i really like this set up i have abother set up for smoother tracks but generaly i just use this set up and increase the rear spring rate for smoother tracks feel free to post feedback on this setup id really like to know what people think.

NOTE: I trail break if you do all youre brakeing before you turn you my find this a little tight on corner entry.
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this is indeed a good setup, but original post by canadian speed is better because i tried it and yes ur times were better, but his settings are much better due to his racing hards, not racing med like urs. i have had faster and similar times for both of you cars, but i have had 1 lap that was better than ur racing meds.

overall, both your settings are great, its jus that tirewear precedes that of anything else (imo at least). great job to both of you though






djaft3rb3ats
 
djaft3rb3ats
this is indeed a good setup, but original post by canadian speed is better because i tried it and yes ur times were better, but his settings are much better due to his racing hards, not racing med like urs. i have had faster and similar times for both of you cars, but i have had 1 lap that was better than ur racing meds.

overall, both your settings are great, its jus that tirewear precedes that of anything else (imo at least). great job to both of you though
djaft3rb3ats
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i would aperciate any feedback anyone has on this set up im a big mustang fan and im always looking for something to help me cut a few tenths off my time :)
I love the 05' so far and i love the cobra in GT3 but havent bought it yet in GT,
any of you own a mustang? i got a 91' GT just ran a 14.4 at the drag strip (with a 3.27 gear) id prolly do better the the spring/shock combo i got is more for handeling then straitline speed :)

P.S. i use a normal ol PS2 controller so any set up thats to responsive to driver input is a death trap for me on the ring(to bumppy)
 
I've long ago changed the above set (my org), forgot that this thread existed, realy... It was one of my older ones... Any how, enough about my set up, lets talk about yours...

Positives :) :

1. You're ride height isn't too low... in fact, it's pretty great, you won't have to adjust your setting for bumpy tracks this way. 👍

2. You're LSD settings feel pretty good... Kicks in where I like it to, not where I don't. I don't think this'll be a problem, even when you start reworking your car, unless you play with the gears som more, then some minor tweaks may be needed. 👍

3. Spring Rates aren't too hard, not to soft either, you could play around with this a bit more, but only slightly. Over all, you've got em set pretty well IMHO. 👍

Negatives :( :

1. Bound/Rebound Rates are a bit off, the back feels a bit to bouncy, as do the fronts, if only slightly. I'd try a 5/7 front, 4/6 back, just for the heck of it.

2. Downforce and drift. I found this car behaved more like a drift car then I like (that may be just me). I think it's due to a couple things...

a) your down force is realy set too high in the front comparded to the rear. Try a 30/30, or a 25/30... I think this'll help a lot.

b) your breaks are to strong in front, making the already lighter ass want to slide out. Try a 4/3, or a 3/2 to even it out, yet keeping the weight on the fronts for better turning while breaking. Your settings already do this, it's just that at some points, the rear breaks free a bit more then it should.

c) your rear end has ligher stabelizers then your front does, it's okay, only that I find if you were to either bring down the front, or up the back, you'd get better reslults.

I think maybe you feel the same way about a swervy back side, and that's why you use such a high toe setting on theback tires. I've never used more then 1, and that was on and RX7 and a Viper, both of which swing around WAY to much. If you fix the above problems, you won't need this toe setting.

The tranny appears to be okay, nice job, but I'm not a gears guy myself, so I'll leave this to another person. Any how, good set up though, just a few little things to touch up and you're on your way... unless you wanted to make this thing a drifter, then many of my comments won't apply. Hope this help, later Ed

P.S. I wish my wife played GT4... :ouch:

P.S.S. Don't worry about Jab's set up, his times are based on NO2 usage, so they're higher then regular times...
 
time for me to comment on the gears, ur is at 2.938 and auto 25, honestly, i dont know where ur intending to go witht that, ur gears are soooooo fu*ing long....2.938 is already way too low for most peoples likings and ur auto at 25 just killed it and buried it. ull never beat anyone with this gear ratio, especially when ur on windy tracks...theres just no more torque. i would suggest that u go for 3.5 for regular and 4.2 for acceleration, my auto settigs never go above 14, so think about it.


canadian, nice job on analyzing his other settings, ill look at that some other time, but my skimming of it proved to be something that will greatly help out zodicus


have fun zodicus and try out our settings and if u can tell us if its better or worse


djaft3rb3ats
 
thanks for the imput. my therory on the stangs gears was its lack of topend power most of the cars meat is in the middle of the rev range,like most amarican V-8s, so constantly keeping the car reved high would be kindof counterproductive, how ever i can play with it a bit and get back to yah, Id kill to have thew tranny set up from GT1 back :(

i havent really played scince i posted but most of the feedback from the way the car feels seams about right ill play with it and give a revamp in a day or two:)
 
I had actually got my times down into the six mins and something-teens on NOS. Nos doesn't help on Nurburing as much as most ppl think. Alot of nurburing is about maintaining speed and not slowing down too much. Anything over 500hp should have very similar results. There are about big 4 straights where power does help.

I think motorland is the best place to judge suspension setups without the results being diluted by power:

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I've seen several ways people have set up their cars to accomplish the same thing. I like to used weird shock valving. Some people set the car to oversteer real badly then use the LSD to add stability. I think the orthodox approach has its merits. I've tried several different setting posted and don't see much of a difference in terms of one be advantage over another. In all likelyhood, which one being better could be track dependent.
 
Im sure the "hot" set up is heavly dependent on what track youre on for exsample that setting on the stang felt good to me but i have another setting for the stang thats much stiffer and it walks all over the nurb rin set up if im at a track thats smooth like grandvally.

I hate useing NO2 in real life and in this game my times are all motor.

P.S. funny storie on NO2 ever since fast and the furious came out the speed shop i hang out at kicks people out if they cal it nos in sted of N.O.S. lol
 
NOS doesn't help the mustang much in this game. It has too much power already, the tires are spinning and the rear wants to break loose without it. Only on fast courses did NOS help. Didn't do squat for the Mustang's lap time on Motorland.

THe problem with video games is that there just isn't enough feedback to properly tune a car. Other make not agree, but tuning in video games is basically guessing followed by testing, followed by more guess, and more testing.
 
only in high rpms and high does it really help. it helps u get those last few mphs in 6th gear, the ones that u just cant seem to normally get without nos. PD has done a great job witht the game already, sometimes u guys ask for too much. need i remind u of the game physics and the sexiness of the graphics and alll those cars and tracks and tuning abilities? lets not overlook those because unless u can do a job as well as they can for the things u wanted in ur post its hard to complain at such a pimp game


djaft3rb3ats
 
djaft3rb3ats
only in high rpms and high does it really help. it helps u get those last few mphs in 6th gear, the ones that u just cant seem to normally get without nos. PD has done a great job witht the game already, sometimes u guys ask for too much. need i remind u of the game physics and the sexiness of the graphics and alll those cars and tracks and tuning abilities? lets not overlook those because unless u can do a job as well as they can for the things u wanted in ur post its hard to complain at such a pimp game


djaft3rb3ats
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meh good point!! :) 👍
 

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