Lamborghini Concept S
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Fiat is Fiat and fiats are rubbish. Ferraris are aite but theyre not sensational anymore. When I see one I can walk past it without even having a second look just like with porshes. However when I did see that lambo the 1 time I was like woooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!
Lambos are more striking than ferraris. Ferraris are getting bland. Id rather have a 350z than a ferrari 360 save the money and kit up my 350z to be faster and more ME!
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Lambos nowadays have much more presence than a Ferrari. While Ferraris are very beautiful cars, I feel that it's a case of they are just too beautiful. Lamborghinis on the other hand, I feel have more character from a styling perspective. They look more intimidating, more distinct, and just have a bigger 'wow factor'.
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I respect Ferrari more but personally, I haven't seen any exciting Ferraris since the Testarossas and F-40s. Lamborghinis, since the Countachs(I still don't know the proper way to say it) has been very exciting exotic cars to me, due to their original styling. I think the new concept "S" looks pretty good, but it's no perfect, yet.
This is how much I was taken with Diablos' design. One morning in the mid to late 90's, I had never seen an Diablo in person yet. As I was nearing an freeway exit near where I work, I saw an Diablo!. I think it must've been 1/5 mile ahead of me. I sped close to 100mph to catch an glimpse of it, only to find it was some retarded kit car(yes, I'm pathetic).
Emohawk, I was trying to think of where I saw the same styling before. Thanks for the "I guess the dripping sarcasm didn't come off all that clearly." post
This is how much I was taken with Diablos' design. One morning in the mid to late 90's, I had never seen an Diablo in person yet. As I was nearing an freeway exit near where I work, I saw an Diablo!. I think it must've been 1/5 mile ahead of me. I sped close to 100mph to catch an glimpse of it, only to find it was some retarded kit car(yes, I'm pathetic).
Emohawk, I was trying to think of where I saw the same styling before. Thanks for the "I guess the dripping sarcasm didn't come off all that clearly." post
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Yeah, I got to see it twice. First time I saw it, it was on the driveway of this average(I'm being nice) looking house. It was kind of weird to see an Diablo next to an late 80's Accord. I got to see another one at the Auto Show, just few weeks ago.McLaren F1GTR
My most exciting exotic encounter was on the Main St. in Downtown Tigard, Or. Yes, this town is as small as the name suggests. I saw an F-40 parked next to the curb! I pulled over right behind it, circled around it for several minutes. I'm pretty sure it belong to one of the Tonkin brothers, who owns chain of dealerships, along with all the exotics.
I gotta share just one more. One time in my life, I got to see Countach in person. It was an 25th Anniversary Edition, and I got to chat with the owner for little bit. He told me this edition were so limited, there were just handful in U.S. It was very exciting, because when I was a kid, I remembered reading the road test by Road & Track on the 25th Anniversary Edition Countach. Guess where I saw this car. K-Mart parking lot, and yes, this guy was shopping there!
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That reminds me of another old R&T article. If I remember correctly, it was an picture of the garage parking at hotel in Monaco, during the Grand Prix. Every damn cars in this garage were Ferraris and Lamborghinis, except for one Miata. It belong to the reporter. 
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I'll admit to missing the saleback of Maserati to the Fiat Auto group. And, excuse me, but Ferrari was in a crisis after Gilles Villeneuve died (after all, he was the man Enzo Ferrari called "my favorite") and things sank even lower in 1988 when we lost Il Commendatore.
Yes, the F1 team floundered around in the midpack after Gilles and Enzo died. Not the likes of Berger, Mansell, or even Prost could revive the team in those days. It wasn't until the man responsible for the glory years on track, the years of Lauda, Regazzoni, Villeneuve, and Scheckter, righted the company and brought in Jean Alesi that things began to look up for F1's oldest manufacturer.
That man, Luca Montezemolo, has breathed new life into Ferrari as a road going concern. The turnaround from the days of aging Testarossa/512TR's, unreliable 328GTB's, and uninspired Mondials was astonishing. Luca returned the company to sportscar racing, with a V12 no less! Sure, he used a Dallara chassis, and the car was never factory ran, but it was there and it won Daytona, won Sebring, won everything except Le Mans (damn Joest). He then turned around, and because he told IMSA he would, used the powerplant in the F50 supercar.
Montezemolo has done everything Enzo Ferrari wanted of the company, and hasn't missed a beat (well, okay, he missed two beats, I call them Enzo and Scaglietti).
The Lamborghini F1 program was a Chrysler project, so was the Portofino super sedan. Personally, the Portofino was the better of the two ideas. I'll admit, they did score points with Lotus and with Larrouse and it was a time in which Ferrari was in trouble. This just happened to be the longest stretch of Ferrari trouble.
Some people claim Ferrari is no longer as wild as they used to be. I honestly can't recall any Ferrari road car that was "wild". They're either starkly functional or unimaginably elegant. The race cars are both parts iconoclast and cutting edge. And the spirit, that wondrous tifosi spirit that I was fortunate to be born into, permeates every inch of the cars. From the lowliest 308GTB, to the most stunning 330P4, Ferraris are the royalty of motorsport.
Let Lamborghini be as wild and vulgar and gaudy as they like. The cars will never have the pedigree, the purity of Ferraris. Let Lamborghini squabble for the road car top speed record. Ferrari is more concerned with the lap record at Fiorano.
Forza Cavaillano Rampante de Scuderia Ferrari!
Yes, the F1 team floundered around in the midpack after Gilles and Enzo died. Not the likes of Berger, Mansell, or even Prost could revive the team in those days. It wasn't until the man responsible for the glory years on track, the years of Lauda, Regazzoni, Villeneuve, and Scheckter, righted the company and brought in Jean Alesi that things began to look up for F1's oldest manufacturer.
That man, Luca Montezemolo, has breathed new life into Ferrari as a road going concern. The turnaround from the days of aging Testarossa/512TR's, unreliable 328GTB's, and uninspired Mondials was astonishing. Luca returned the company to sportscar racing, with a V12 no less! Sure, he used a Dallara chassis, and the car was never factory ran, but it was there and it won Daytona, won Sebring, won everything except Le Mans (damn Joest). He then turned around, and because he told IMSA he would, used the powerplant in the F50 supercar.
Montezemolo has done everything Enzo Ferrari wanted of the company, and hasn't missed a beat (well, okay, he missed two beats, I call them Enzo and Scaglietti).
The Lamborghini F1 program was a Chrysler project, so was the Portofino super sedan. Personally, the Portofino was the better of the two ideas. I'll admit, they did score points with Lotus and with Larrouse and it was a time in which Ferrari was in trouble. This just happened to be the longest stretch of Ferrari trouble.
Some people claim Ferrari is no longer as wild as they used to be. I honestly can't recall any Ferrari road car that was "wild". They're either starkly functional or unimaginably elegant. The race cars are both parts iconoclast and cutting edge. And the spirit, that wondrous tifosi spirit that I was fortunate to be born into, permeates every inch of the cars. From the lowliest 308GTB, to the most stunning 330P4, Ferraris are the royalty of motorsport.
Let Lamborghini be as wild and vulgar and gaudy as they like. The cars will never have the pedigree, the purity of Ferraris. Let Lamborghini squabble for the road car top speed record. Ferrari is more concerned with the lap record at Fiorano.
Forza Cavaillano Rampante de Scuderia Ferrari!
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The reason you see so few Lamborghini's compared to Ferraris is because no one wants to buy them.
I would much rather have a beautiful, timelessly styled car than an ugly 'striking' Lambo.
I would much rather have a beautiful, timelessly styled car than an ugly 'striking' Lambo.
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Lamborghinis will not have the purity of a Ferrari? LMAO!
FYI, there are very few Ferraris that were able to beat the Lamborghini in their time.
Right now, it seems only the Enzo can beat a Murcielago. out of a Ferrari line-up for this decade.
Ok, so what? Lamborghini will have a faster speed. What the hell do you think got the McLaren F1 to fame? (Not the company as one. The company is known for 2 things.)
Lamborghinis, IMO, are purer than most Ferraris.
Which of the 2 companys, Lamborghini and Ferrari, had one of their models beaten by a NSX?
Ferrari.
Lamborghinis may not be the fastest, but they are everything an exotic car should be. Able to reach 200+Mph, have a great amount of speed, and not the fastest thing on the road.
It seems Ferrari today wants to be the fastest in everything. Actually, it may not be right even trying to compare a Ferrari Enzo to a Lamborghini Murcielago.
The Enzo is a supercar as the Murcielago is an Exotic Car. They are not the same.
FYI, there are very few Ferraris that were able to beat the Lamborghini in their time.
Right now, it seems only the Enzo can beat a Murcielago. out of a Ferrari line-up for this decade.
Ok, so what? Lamborghini will have a faster speed. What the hell do you think got the McLaren F1 to fame? (Not the company as one. The company is known for 2 things.)
Lamborghinis, IMO, are purer than most Ferraris.
Which of the 2 companys, Lamborghini and Ferrari, had one of their models beaten by a NSX?
Ferrari.
Lamborghinis may not be the fastest, but they are everything an exotic car should be. Able to reach 200+Mph, have a great amount of speed, and not the fastest thing on the road.
It seems Ferrari today wants to be the fastest in everything. Actually, it may not be right even trying to compare a Ferrari Enzo to a Lamborghini Murcielago.
The Enzo is a supercar as the Murcielago is an Exotic Car. They are not the same.
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Few Ferraris ablet to beat the Lambo of its time... F40? F50? Enzo? 430? To name a few (late in the night ugghh)
NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO ME WHEN I SAY THAT FIAT GROUP IS NOT FIAT AUTO. MASERATI IS NOT OWNED BY FIAT AUTO, NEITHER IS FERRARI. THEY ARE OWNED BY THE FIAT GROUP. There is a big huge major difference.
Ferrari had what beaten by the NSX? When? huh?
NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO ME WHEN I SAY THAT FIAT GROUP IS NOT FIAT AUTO. MASERATI IS NOT OWNED BY FIAT AUTO, NEITHER IS FERRARI. THEY ARE OWNED BY THE FIAT GROUP. There is a big huge major difference.
Ferrari had what beaten by the NSX? When? huh?
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Nope, Fiat owns Fiat auto's and Ferrari, Fiat Auto's don't own Ferrari. Fiat and Fiat auto's are two seperate companies.
As for the NSX, I believe the NSX-R has a faster lap time round the ring than the 360 Modena, may be wrong but from memory the 911 GT3 was faster than the 360 and the NSX-R got the same time as the 911 GT3.
As for the NSX, I believe the NSX-R has a faster lap time round the ring than the 360 Modena, may be wrong but from memory the 911 GT3 was faster than the 360 and the NSX-R got the same time as the 911 GT3.
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No it wasn't! Listen to me... it was bought by Fiat Group. They own Fiat Auto. live4speed knows what he's talking about.
Yes, the NSX-R is very fast indeed, but it runs with factory slicks (replacing the Challenge Stradale's street tires with 360 Challenge slicks takes 3 seconds off its time around Fiorano, a small track)
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From AutoWeek:
Fiat SpA announced Wednesday it's buying the Maserati sports car brand and business from Ferrari, a company in which Fiat already owns a majority stake. The deal is being done to meld Maserati and Fiat's underperforming Alfa Romeo unit, and also probably to liberate Maserati from Ferrari in advance of a stock listing of the Italian performance car company.
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Fiat's struggling carmaking unit owns the Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Lancia brands. The Fiat group also owns a 56 percent stake in Ferrari.
Fiat is merging Maserati and Alfa Romeo, thus placing Maserati under the control of Fiat Auto.
Fiat SpA announced Wednesday it's buying the Maserati sports car brand and business from Ferrari, a company in which Fiat already owns a majority stake. The deal is being done to meld Maserati and Fiat's underperforming Alfa Romeo unit, and also probably to liberate Maserati from Ferrari in advance of a stock listing of the Italian performance car company.
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Fiat's struggling carmaking unit owns the Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Lancia brands. The Fiat group also owns a 56 percent stake in Ferrari.
Fiat is merging Maserati and Alfa Romeo, thus placing Maserati under the control of Fiat Auto.
