Left or right foot braking?

[o9lifted]

Square!

 

[Ewok626]

right foot and heal/toe here.

 

[FordMKIVJ5]

I voted "2 pedals - I use my left and right foot, depending on the situation", however I would change that to "2 pedals - I use my right foot predominantly, and sometimes my left depending on the situation". Since day one with my DFGT I've right foot braked, however I found that in certain corners a flick of brake and throttle lift tucks the nose into the apex of the corner, however doing this with RFB the transition onto the throttle was too slow to steady the rear and I'd slide. So in situations where I just need a flick of brake I LFB, for example the 2nd corner in the 's' bend towards the end of Motegi East and the Schumacher esses at Nürburgring GP/F.

 

[ChazFarote]

Growing up I was always told to not use my left foot for braking always use the right foot. My first car was a manual [3 on the tree] so naturally I used the right foot for brake and throttle and left foot for the clutch.

I learned to drive on a 3-on-the-tree car too, an AMC Hornet wagon, and it was green! My friends thought it was an automatic lol

For GT I use a DFGT, left brake. I always drive without shoes, just socks, because it is indeed kinda tight. I have reverse set to the shifter because sometimes when I spin out that stupid triangle is hard to find lol

 

[varmintx]

I think I made a similar thread in the GT5 forum. I have converted to switching between left and right foot braking since then. I'm still utterly incapable of using the left foot for both clutch and brake, but it's now pretty easy to switch between using the shifter knob with left foot clutch and right foot braking to using the paddle shifters with left foot braking.

 

[Youngun]

I left foot on the basis of keeping some throttle most times, my head might be slow one day so moving may not be quicker. Would right foot if A. Wheel stand pro had no central pole, B. Clutch worked everytime and C. Alot of race cars have auto clutches with sequential gears so racers use left foot natural.

Only problem with this is my car has a fresh brake set up as of last year, and can stop on a 50p piece so if i tap the brake pedal, i pretty much emergency stop where as G27 is soft and pressed full is full braking. That is a bit disorientating after playing game then going out, passengers get a ride.

 

[MSTER232]

If we want it fixed, it's time to start complaining about the right thing. 👍

No point complaining if our voices won't be heard. Does anyone know how we can get this through to PD?

 

[Eggstor]

My ankles are too screwed up to heel-and-toe, so if I have to downshift (and I'm using the clutch, like I do on my Tacoma), it's the right foot, and I deal with the mismatched revs.

Otherwise, it's left-foot braking.

 

[LeadFootLiam]

I left brake for karts for some cars. Mainly the RBX cars, and karts.

 

[Omniscient]

Right foot braking for slow corners coming off a long straight when I need to brake hard, left foot braking for fast corners when I need to balance a car using both the brake and throttle and when I only need to dab the brakes a bit and get on the gas right away.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

I'm a DS3 player, but I binded accelerator and brake to L2 and R2. So when I brake, I use my left finger to brake and I lightly use my right finger to accelerate a little to help the car from transferring its weight too much. Is that left foot braking? Or left finger braking? lol

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Left foot.

 

[iLex]

I'm a DS3 player, but I binded accelerator and brake to L2 and R2. So when I brake, I use my left finger to brake and I lightly use my right finger to accelerate a little to help the car from transferring its weight too much. Is that left foot braking? Or left finger braking? lol

As long as you use your finger I'd say it is left finger braking But the technique is similar to left foot braking.


Thanks all for your replies!

 

[ICEMAN_ZIDANE]

Always brake with right !
There are only a few "Special" situations were you could brake with left but normally always brake with right.

Off Topic:
" The right way is the right way."

Does he really say that ? Omg i think i should stop watching Top Gear then . Thats even bad for a joke.

 

[xSNAKEx]

Am I the only one who can't transfer sim-racing skills to a real car and vice-versa? The two environments feel vastly different to me, and I find I'd have to re-learn everything, which is all muscle memory (so I keep things conventional / safe in the real world...)

It could well be in my head, I'd concede.


Making changes to the clutch in the game will not fix the real issue.

What needs to change is to make the gear selection checks (throttle position, mainly - also 1st-2nd timer and wheel spin) be optional.
It's especially annoying that if you blip the throttle whilst trying to select a lower gear (for heel-toe down-shifts), the game will disallow that selection (because you attempted to select the gear with more than 20% throttle applied), leaving you in neutral.

If we want it fixed, it's time to start complaining about the right thing. 👍

IMO it has to do mostly with Gforces. No Gfocres in a sim. This also affects the way you brake. Having two feet on both accel and brake in real life could mean you also are pushing the accelerator whilst braking because you are being pressed forward in the cabin. You use feet to press yourself against something when braking whether you realise it or not.

REal life also makes it more difficult to module the brake with your left foot because of gfroces, and if you right handed you probably have a lesser degree of control of your left foot. Braking is also a lot more sensitive in real life than the progressive nature in a GT6 is yet another reason for what you describe.

 

[Griffith500]

IMO it has to do mostly with Gforces. No Gfocres in a sim. This also affects the way you brake. Having two feet on both accel and brake in real life could mean you also are pushing the accelerator whilst braking because you are being pressed forward in the cabin. You use feet to press yourself against something when braking whether you realise it or not.

REal life also makes it more difficult to module the brake with your left foot because of gfroces, and if you right handed you probably have a lesser degree of control of your left foot. Braking is also a lot more sensitive in real life than the progressive nature in a GT6 is yet another reason for what you describe.

That's definitely part of it, but there's this feeling that, effectively, my limbs aren't "the same", since the necessary movements don't come to me even when the car is stationary!

It's kind of like when I get back on my bike after not riding it for months, or riding different bikes back to back - I feel loose and out of control (unless it's a "better" bike), and a little over-confident to boot (especially if it's a better bike), although not usually to any real detriment - it's mainly just a perception.

I expect there's a contribution from the enclosed cockpit in a car, too, it really messes with my senses when transitioning from sims (which I see the other way with people who don't sim race, but drive a lot, they do strange things they probably wouldn't in a real car, e.g. excessive steering lock).

Actually, that makes sense - once I'm used to my bike(s) again, it feels sort of like an "extension" of my body. Rarely, I get this with cars, too (certainly with karts), although I need to know where the limits are for that to truly happen, which isn't really practical on the road, and I don't drive very much anyway at the moment (but the disorientation was there even when I was driving every day).

I think that sense of bodily "extension" is missing for me in sims, and everything is interpreted and processed in a purely visual manner, involving no perception of myself within the virtual car and virtual space (which the g-forces help to cement). That kind of changes the context of my perception of myself, that is my perception of my movements when doing things like heel-toe, since I know I'm not "connected" to anything tangible.

Maybe an Oculus Rift would help establish that "connection"*, it'd certainly justify the investment if it'll help my real world driving ability... Or maybe a track day / driving school session or three.

*This assumes that wearing the Rift, or similar, will initially give me the same "disorientation" I get in a real car in respect of these specific control adaptations, and learning / practising through it will help in the real car without, you know, danger.

 

[Stotty]

Left foot.

 

[amarios]

Left foot braking with my G25 using paddle shifters. Playing with proper gears and clutch is _still_ awful in this game, annoys me so much I just don't bother any more... :\

 

[Mr.Slow]

In game I use left foot braking almost exclusively. More so now that I haven't used the clutch in a couple of years.

 

[Kraftwabe]

I use a Cuore. I do not brake...

 

[sid_chiclana]

IRL both, in game... right thumb!

 

[optiongamers]

Left foot.

 

[jacnob]

I voted both because of the Stratos (love that car)

EDIT:

*snip*
Somewhere in another thread I saw some telemetry data of Michael Schumacher, who apparently is a left foot braker. Was quite interesting to see. I'll try to find it later.
*snip*

Got that image right here:

 

[Azure Flare]

T500 RS + TH8 RS.

I do often use the H-pattern, but for upshifting. Because the clutch in GT6 acts like an on/off switch, I just left-foot brake and use the paddle to change down, unless I'm using the sequential shift function, then you can't use the clutch at all.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Left foot braking feels completely natural in gaming. But in a real car it felt incredibly awkward!

 

[Shlagem]

Right foot braker with G25 I only use my left foot when I'm eager to get back on the throttle as quick as I can usually with a stable car, never managed to do so in GT6 so since most of the cars would bite.

Found this to be nice V8 supercars around Bathurst in the wet notice how he only use left foot when he want the nose to remain pitched in, specially before elbow corner (the downhill left hander hairpin that leads into the back stretch) nice to share this one since the circuit is already in GT6.

 

[LS Chiou]

Some MR or RR cars need instant throttle right after you lift the brake (or even a little overlap like the telemetry shown above) to stabilize the tail at the entrance of corner or mid turn -- shifting the load back to rear and press the tail down.

"Instant" throttle doesn't mean full throttle, it depends on the car (or setting) to judge how much throttle it needs. If the throttle is not quick enough, with the weight load in front and the side load at rear, it might sideway too much or just spin out. This needs left foot braking for quick throttle.

Oh, that's in the game. I haven't driven any MR or RR cars in real life yet, except go kart, which is braked by left foot, too.

 

[CTznOfTime]

I have the DFGT, so two pedals.

I try to do as in real life, but i find myselft left foot braking most of the time.

It just saves time when you are racing, likewhen you go karting.

 

[pmgolf]

I have the DFGT, but I also have paralysis in my right foot, so I use my left for both petals.

 

[Silent Drifter]

Anytime I have a wheel and pedal set up, I've always left foot brake. Just feels natural to me.