Legal Street Racing?

[Dave A]

All too often though people do do this, which is what I am getting at.

And not what were disputing at all. The fact still remains, safe driving is safe driving spirited or not. People may drive badly spiritedly but people drive badly normally, this isn't coming into what we have defined here we are specifically talking about driving safe. You can kill someone driving normally and you can kill someone driving spiritedly but if you are driving safe then the risks are no higher if your drving spiritedly. If anything they're lower for reasons I've stated earlier.

 

[Perfect Balance]

Other then getting from A to B in one piece what is driving about?

I'd just like to point out that about 15-20% of the time I'm driving, I'm doing it just for the sake of driving, and nothing else.

EDIT: Don't most crashes happen in the city, where everyone tends to drive "normally"?

 

[Joey D]

And not what were disputing. The fact still remains, safe driving is safe driving, spirited or not. People may drive badly spiritedly but people drive badly normally. You can kill someone driving normally and you can kill someone driving spiritedly but if you are driving safe then the risks are no higher. If anything they're lower when your driving spiritedly and safe for reasons I've stated earlier.

I never said you couldn't be in a terrible accident while driving normal, I'm well aware of that. I've said it numerous times, driving is risky to begin with which is why you shouldn't place unneeded risk.

Maybe it is time this thread ends? We are all just saying the same thing and it's just going to keep on that way.

I'd just like to point out that about 15-20% of the time I'm driving, I'm doing it just for the sake of driving, and nothing else.

That's fine, I sometimes take a longer way home just because I enjoy the drive. You are still going from A to B even if A and B happen to both be your driveway.

 

[Stevisiov]

Actually is does because doing this on a public road is never safe to do so because you are in an uncontrolled environment. Also 98% is just a number I don't know what it is, maybe I should have said majority so you could understand it?

Interesting that you ask for respect as you seem to think I find the percentage 98 incomprehensible, or at least that was the insinuation. As a matter of fact I have quite clearly stated in my previous figure that it is the inverse 98% from my experience, no doubt you missed this, perhaps you didn't bother reading this, perhaps you conveniently ignored this or perhaps you didn't understand quite what the inverse of 98% is. It is 2% if you were wondering.

I don't feel as if I am wrong, I still think driving spirited on a public road is less safe than driving normal. It's not arguing for the sake of it because this is something I actually believe. Some of you cannot see that though and it's irritating, Famine and //M-Spec while I have disagreed with them seem to be holding a discussion just fine.

You say this yet you have made little attempt to back up this claim. You have made a few noises but yet to have a solid point which can't be easily disregarded, if you have made a point that I have missed earlier please point it out, I shall review it for you.

Can you trying showing some respect?

I used the word porous as it seemed the least likely word to offend you but still get over my point that your argument has holes that you have failed to defend, mostly pointed out by Danoff just recently, but by Famine earlier in the thread. If you still think my comments where under hand then perhaps you should report them, but as there is already a few moderators viewing this thread perhaps you should leave it to them.

Personally I would have thought it would be more offending if I told you to stop posting weak arguments that are hypocritical, but wait you have already accused others of that.

Please stop trying to play the hard done to card and get on with the point in hand.

If I am honest I am slightly annoyed that you think I cannot comprehend the percentage 98% and need you to simplify that to 'the vast majority'. Conversely I would consider you try showing some respect, but I am not going to moan about it, this is the internet I can get over it.

Your argument boils down to the fact that you don't think that Famine or others can drive spiritedly and safely, others including me have provide examples that negate this opinion, you have yet to come up with a decent opposing argument.