List your B-Spec complaints here.

[snowgt]

I'm just wondering what on earth Physical and Mental Strength gauges are for, if nothing happens when you run out.

I found that I have most fun when I pretend that I have to make them pit when both strength-bars are empty, but it would be better, if it actually had an effect.

E.g. it would be appropriate, if the driver would not accept any commands anymore from you except for pitting in and the emotion bar dropping into the deep blue zone so he's driving as slow as possible. Would make sense.

 

[E90SLAM]

I'm just wondering what on earth Physical and Mental Strength gauges are for, if nothing happens when you run out.

I found that I have most fun when I pretend that I have to make them pit when both strength-bars are empty, but it would be better, if it actually had an effect.

E.g. it would be appropriate, if the driver would not accept any commands anymore from you except for pitting in and the emotion bar dropping into the deep blue zone so he's driving as slow as possible. Would make sense.

Or he fall asleep on the wheel due to fatigue.

 

[sebbemann]

1. The drivers are slaves to the racing line, to the point of excessively slowing down to stay in it, rather than making a common sense decision to abandon the racing line in the pursuit of maintaining/increasing speed/position.

2. The driving line they are stuck in isn't nearly aggressive enough.

3. The driver pacing system is terrible. A "hot" driver shouldn't pace down to a crawl for laps 2 through 200 just because he has the lead. The only thing worse is watching him cruise around cold for 190 laps when NOT leading, just because there isn't another driver in his immediate vicinity. If you're not winning, you shouldn't need encouragement to speed up. The permanent 1 to 5 pacing scale used in GT4 was 100x better than this system.

4. The XP and leveling system used to unlock races is broken. Having a license requirement for event entry makes more sense than having to B-Spec 240 hours of a single endurance race just to unlock the last 24 hour race. Better yet, that last race is worth the most XP, but there is no level after 40 for those points to apply to. After reaching 35, you'll do 264 hours of B- Spec, and have 2 cars to show for it.

5. That last gripe wouldn't be too bad if not for the inability to speed up the time clock. These races require too much time to complete, and it makes zero sense to have them all play 1:1 against real time, especially when you don't even need to watch the race.

6. The reason you don't even need to watch the races is because B-Spec teaches you that absolutely obliterating the field in a vastly superior car is the best possible approach. The game does nothing to increase rewards for close/competitive racing. Winning by 40 laps teaches your driver just as much as winning by .4 seconds, so why drag out the race and unnecessarily risk/delay your rewards?

7. The drivers you train in B-Spec can't join you in your own A-Spec Endurance career. Why should I drive 24 hours at LeMans all alone when I have perfectly capable drivers I've been training to do the same thing? My B-Spec drivers can split a 24-hour race among three drivers, so why can't I? I would love to drive a 4-hour shift and hand the car over to my guys for the next 8 hours, which I could watch, or just skip up to my next shift behind the wheel. Using your own trained B-Spec drivers instead of some random level 0 scrubs (that would waste all your hard work by losing your lead) would make the ultimate incentive to play in B-Spec mode.

Hear hear!

I'v stopped playing B - spec just on spite!

 

[SirAlanClive]

My biggest complaint is the number of complainers here. If you don't 'get' how a game should be played then that's your problem. I love B-spec as does Kazunori Yamauchi. He made the game. I trust him.

Go Kaz go.....don't let the party-poopers wear you down lad.

 

[freight48]

It's fine. No need to complain here.

 

[sebbemann]

My biggest complaint is the number of complainers here. If you don't 'get' how a game should be played then that's your problem. I love B-spec as does Kazunori Yamauchi. He made the game. I trust him.

Go Kaz go.....don't let the party-poopers wear you down lad.

So its wrong of us to give the makers construcitve criticism?

 

[SirAlanClive]

You call the net content of these 'What's wrong with b-spec' threads constructive? And how many duplicate threads do we need on this subject? I too have issues with PD on b-spec...like the missing split times etc, but the vast majority of these complaints indeed show that people haven't got it. 'My Bobs an idiot'. 'Bob can't drive'. 'This ruins the game for me' etc etc ad infinitum.

We've heard it now and I think PD has too.

 

[LeeC2202]

One thing I noticed last night for the very first time, and it's annoying from the off. I was doing the first endurance race, where you can pick 4 drivers. So I clicked, lvl 23 Bob, lvl 17 Bob, lvl 12 Bob with a lvl 22 Bob to finish, thinking I would have a good pace setter and a strong driver to finish if I was in trouble. As the race unfolded, they just drove in the order they are in the driver list. So much for tactical driver usage.

I know you can choose a driver during the pit-stop, but that kind of negates the idea of the auto pit-in setting, if you have to sit and watch the pit-stops. Other than that, I'm really into B-Spec.

 

[drivingmeinsane]

With the separation of A and B-spec-is there any point to having B-spec anymore?
The cons FAAAR outweigh the pros having separate A and B-spec games BUT...if this is the way its going to be from now on, i think having a B-spec academy where your B-spec has to go and train which would cost you quite a few credits and would not be available for use, and paying B-spec a wage would be a far better way to go than having to watch the paint dry while your Bob races the same race OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again just so you can get a 100% finish record is insane beyond belief

But then again, what's the point of having B-spec in the next GT if it's going to remain separate from A-spec? it would make better sense if B-spec was completely removed to make way for many more events and smarter AI opponents with some semblance of character.

 

[TWINKLE]

got to bspec35 ..got me car ,,seems endless and tiresome now ..levelling up....got to do x times 24 hr races to progress ..stopped there,,no need for it tbh..

glad i not a medal hunter ....:lmao1:

 

[Phelyx]

I think I made the big mistake of calling this a complaint thread when my goal was to enhance the interface of and calling out the bugs of the B-spec side with the idea of a new sub forum being created.

The actual AI of the trained Bob or Stig is not the purpose of this thread. Those can go sit in the threads created by the people with level 3 Bobs and not realize with more training the Bob will take that corner better.

Lastly, if your done playing B-Spec then why post in B-spec topics. It's kinda like posting on your ex-girlfriends facebook; its not constructive and a big waste of time.

 

[petergyht]

I like b-spec but one thing is that they would put a online b-spec

 

[SirAlanClive]

my goal was to enhance the interface of and calling out the bugs of the B-spec side

Lol...I've tried that a couple of times...to no avail. Got to disguise the thread as something else....I tried "The Truth about B-spec", "B-spec game mechanics", and another one I think...but they either get closed or go off topic.

When the SLS Challenge finishes 1st Feb the big guns (Yes Marxgorm, you know who you are!) will share their secrets with us and we can start some really constructive b-spec threads!

 

[Sollyop]

I agree with most of the comments here - especially the need to keep this constructive. So here goes....

Whilst a lot of the 'purists' don't like B-Spec... I love it! For me it's a 2nd game along with the A-Spec simulator. However there's much missing in GT5 B-Spec compared to GT4.

I'd like to see the option to take-over a stint in the car from 'Bob', as you could in GT4.

The speed up time function would also save a lot of time (and energy, are we not supposed to be saving the planet, rather than leaving PS3's on for weeks at a time?)

Finally, as one member said, some of us are suckers for stats. I'd like to see more data on the details screens, i.e.;

- identify where my opponents are on the track map (i.e. who's who?)
- When my opponents last pitted
- when my drivers last pitted
- timing splits around the circuit, not just at the line

plus, as some others have already mentioned about fuel levels and tyre wear on the details screen.

B-Spec is great - especially when you've already reached you own ersonal limit on A-Spec! (It's an age thing!)

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

7. The drivers you train in B-Spec can't join you in your own A-Spec Endurance career. Why should I drive 24 hours at LeMans all alone when I have perfectly capable drivers I've been training to do the same thing? My B-Spec drivers can split a 24-hour race among three drivers, so why can't I? I would love to drive a 4-hour shift and hand the car over to my guys for the next 8 hours, which I could watch, or just skip up to my next shift behind the wheel. Using your own trained B-Spec drivers instead of some random level 0 scrubs (that would waste all your hard work by losing your lead) would make the ultimate incentive to play in B-Spec mode.

Agree 100% (and with everything else you said in that posted).

once I get it first I just let my bob get cold, because if the computer catches up it will just anger my bob and he will speed up and pull away again. like what was said above, when my bob has the inside and slows down and lets the guy on the outside pass is a huge face palm moment.

 

[MowTin]

At first I thought B-Spec was cool because I thought that you somehow "trained" your Bob. You don't. He just levels up.

B-Spec would be sooooo much cooler if you could train your Bob. Bob could follow you on the track for a training session. He would learn from your driving lessons. His lap times would be similar to your lap times. His technique (good and bad) would be learned from you.

Some Bobs would be more talented than others. If you got really lucky you could get a superstar Bob. You could trade Bobs and race your friend Bobs and enter your Bobs in tournaments if they qualify.

Just some wishful thinking while I watch my Bob spend 54 Minutes doing 1 leg of the 3 leg Super GT. I can't imagine what a nightmare this would be if Bob didn't have a ridiculously overpowered FGT.

 

[TJDowning]

Pretty basic stuff as i do like bspec
1. The ability to fast forward it, even if it's only one the 9/24hour races just being able to speed those two up alone would be nice.
Not everyone has the ability to leave their ps3 running for such long times.

2. Bob needs to understand that he's not some little toy car on a track he can move from the racing line every now and then instead of endlessly sitting behind the car infront keeping him super hot and just draining his physical/mental strength.

3. This is by far the most annoying thing, when they do get out infront no matter how hot or cool they are naturally they just drop down to super cool and if the car they're running in is anywhere near close to having the same power as the rest he just loses so much time it's crazy so you're almost forced to spam orders just to keep up a decent lead or even to catch up.

They should use the GT4 method, set him to run at a certain % of his ability and leave him at it. Obviously the higher the % you run the faster he will die and end up making more mistakes but atleast you wouldn't have to worry about him slowing down by 5-6 seconds over the next 2 laps.

 

[RikkiGT-R]

I started reluctantly going through some B-Spec races last night. It came to the Supercar Festival @ Daytona, and my Bob was driving a 1223bhp Veyron which I have clocked at 270mph+ on Mulsanne. Bob struggled to overtake cars much slower than him, braked ON THE STRAIGHTS every single lap, braked before the banked curves, braked in the middle of the curves... he just kept braking. I couldn't watch because it was about to cost me a controller and probably a TV.

WHY does Bob brake on a super speedway?

 

[FryImaging]

Here's my complaint. My driver is an idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqDbYoRtlNA

 

[birksy82]

I started reluctantly going through some B-Spec races last night. It came to the Supercar Festival @ Daytona, and my Bob was driving a 1223bhp Veyron which I have clocked at 270mph+ on Mulsanne. Bob struggled to overtake cars much slower than him, braked ON THE STRAIGHTS every single lap, braked before the banked curves, braked in the middle of the curves... he just kept braking. I couldn't watch because it was about to cost me a controller and probably a TV.

WHY does Bob brake on a super speedway?

I think Bob brakes because the racing line tells him too when it shows red. Iv'e put my Bob's in my fgt at indy and if there are no car's in front of him he doesn't brake for the corners it's the same at daytona , the fgt handles better so the racing line won't show red at the corners. I will also add that I tried the veyron on like the wind in A-spec and I had to brake for the corners so I'm not surprised that Bob's have to .

 

[CarBastard]

1. Driver brakes on ovals.
2. He's unable to make a decent overtake. Instead of opening and giving it full throttle to do an overtake, he sticks to the back of the car in front with partial throttle.
3. He's terribly unconsistant.
4. Sometimes he thinks he knows better than me about tires. You're driving a X2010, in Le Mans, in the wet but it's not soaking wet. You're doing perfectly fine with the Intermediates I put on your car, why the heck do you want to pit? Oh, to get Rain tires? Fine. You're slower with Rain tires than with Intermediates? I tould you so...

Those are the ones that annoy me the most. Well, other than the fact this mode exists.

 

[nist7]

No fast forward.

 

[Snakebitten]

Ive always loved B-Spec but this go round its supremely flawed. Silly me for posting my complaints in a complaint thread.

One more thing I noticed. I only saw this exhibited in the B-Spec Dream Car Championship race hence why I'm putting in in here and not creating another thread.

This morning Bob was racing on the Monza circuit during a deluge of rain. I started on Rain tires of course. We know the Computer players started on Hard as always lol. But the weird thing that happened was during that heavy rain my Bob wanted to pit after 2 laps. I kept Un-pitting and he kept trying to pit every lap.

I then noticed that the computer cars, once they initially pitted for the Rain tires after the first lap, again pitted to put on Intermediates on the second lap. Then the very next lap they pitted and put on Hard tires. All the while I keep hitting the Un-Pit choice on my Bob for the whole race. It was nothing but heavy rain the entire race so this was some truly weird behavior. Maybe the rain shader was on but the track was some how drying. At one point in a few of the laps, while the rain NEVER let up I noticed none of the cars had rooster tails. Me thinks another bug at work here.

 

[dhandeh]

My main gripe is the lack of credits awarded for winning the endurance races and the sheer amount of grinding needed, its not fun after the 8th 24hr race.

 

[Dennisch]

I'm really getting sick of reaching lvl 30 by grinding the dreamcars, Why oh why doesn´t BOB get the same amount of XP like us??

I just want Bob to be in a Fire and forget missile, like the FGT in dreamcar, but longer, and more xp!! 👎

 

[zedextreme8177]

Bob's an absolute idiot, 'nuff said.

 

[THOMASBARNES]

I can't really say anything about B-Spec because I've hardly done any of it but it could be best described like this http://www.desertmoon.org/screen/luckystar/ep08/luckystar08_026.jpg we are Kagami (the one on the left) and Bob is Konata (the one on the right) actually I wonder what it would be like to have Kagami as a B-Spec Driver

 

[SUBSAILOR]

Has anyone run into the glitch where the pit crew doesn't fuel bob up? even though he needs fuel? I am watching bob do the indy 500 and the pit crew failed to fuel him up, so he had to do a lap at 50 mph around the track so he would run out of fuel and fell from a lap ahead to half a lap behind. This isn't the first time it has happened, but it's the first time it has cost bob any position.