Logitech G27 Wheel "' MOMO RED''' Mod

[AussieStig]

Latest news sim wise is that I am pulling my extra G27 shifter apart and will be making an aluminium semi gated shift plate for it. Pics to follow. Also working on getting the connectors to wire up the G27 pcb to the MOMO wheel.

Cheers

 

[AussieStig]

Update 04-06-2013:

Getting closer to modding the the G27 wheel, here is my progress with the shifter:

With very limited tools and a lot of imagination I have dismantled the standard shifter and fabricated a plate from 4 mm aluminum which is then covered in carbon fiber foil. Whilst the shifter was apart I also put a small spacer in the housing that holds the spring and ball bearing. The spacer is about 5 mm and gives the shift movement a much more mechanical/heavier feeling. I have salvaged some of the housing from the shifter which holds the entire mechanism, this in turn is bolted to the aluminum plate and is very rigid. I also turned a piece of Oak to resemble a momo type shift knob.

This whole assembly will be finished off on 3 sides so I can detach it from my rig. It will be placed in the cockpit on the right hand side diagonally under the to be modified G27.

Hope you all like the pics, cheers mates.

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[Gunstar]

That's pretty slick right there. Looking forward to seeing how this guy turns out!

 

[AussieStig]

Ta Gunstar,

Here is the finished shifter in place. The next job is fitting the seat into the cockpit. Sorry about the quality of the pics, was in a hurry this morning. But you can see the general idea I hope!!!!

Cheers

 

[AussieStig]

Just off topic but to do with my profile I cant get my avatar showing does anyone have any help for me? I have tried to upload from my pc res = 89 x 98 and 3,3 kb JPG and it just wont load? Here it is as a linked pic, self made in Gimp and pretty cool I thought.

Cheers mates.

 

[AussieStig]

Update just ordered the GTEYE spring and will be swapping out the brake spring, I will also swap the clutch spring for the original brake spring and the throttle spring for the original clutch spring.

More pics of the pedal risers the mod I made to fit the laid back seating position coming soon. Also pics of how I made the whole pedal box adjustable fore and aft.

Cheers

 

[AussieStig]

Ok a few more pics with the pedals and wheel in place. it will be a nice snug little office. I am really looking forward to having it finished. The pedals have 3 identical risers which are made of 2 pieces of MDF laminated together to create a 30 mm thick piece. If anyone is interested I can post a template of the riser all the angles are worked out so it is almost vertical with the pedal box sitting normaly as it would on the floor.

Let me know if you would like the template.

Cheers

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Looking great. Nice job with the modifications. I always like seeing custom made setups like this. 👍

 

[ROB 256R]

Cool project. Would love to do something like this if I had the motivation. One question; how much have the riser blocks increased the pedal travel by? I can imagine how a longer brake pedal might be beneficial but not clutch or accel.

 

[eKretz]

Very cool, I like your setup.

 

[AussieStig]

Hey Rob 266R

Ta mate, the risers actually have less throw than standard, when I am sitting in the cockpit my feet are perpendicular to the pedal faces and I only have to push with the ball of my foot and I dont fully extend my foot forward so it is very comfortable.

The shape of the risers throws the pedals forward as well so the throw is less because they are vertical.

Cheers

 

[AussieStig]

Update GTEYE spring received, the original brake spring is now doing duty as the clutch spring and likewise the clutch is now the throttle. All in all a very positive feeling for all three pedals now. I am pleased with the results and the extra resistance is very welcome.

This week I will be making a mounting plate to use my iPhone as a poor mans SLI dash. This will be attached to the G27 wheel between the hub and the back of the rim. I can then use iHud and Sinspeed apps and easily remove the phone. I will try and make it so it looks like it belongs with the wheel even when the phone is not in place.

I have asked the makers of Sinspeed to make a dash that looks like this

Right now this is only for Android devices and it would be cool to be able to use it on an IOS device.

Cheers mates

 

[Lauz]

Greetings all, this thread caught my eye as I would like to do the same thing. My momo force red has died (such a good wheel, so rare) and Ive replaced it with a g27. I'm keeping it aside for now with the hope that one day i can find a replacement motor or a fix, its just too nice to chuck away.

In the meantime i would also like to mount my momo wheel to my g27. I have already done some pedal mods (nixim+old brake for clutch+switched clutch and accel) Its annoying to know that if i purchased a cheaper g25 than i could have directly mounted the wheel no problem.

 

[AussieStig]

Update: SLI alternative!!!

A nifty add on, I made a perspex plate with the drill pattern for the G27 hub and covered it in CF film. Hot glued a cheap iPhone 4s cover to the plate and hey presto instant sim dash!!! Now I can use iHud and Sinspeed apps. This way I have a proper digital dash that resembles an SLI display. Also by fitting the plate to the front of the wheel I dont have to risk mucking things up where the circuit board and connectors are concerned.

Cheers.

 

[AussieStig]

I have produced a sticker sheet for the inside of the iPhone cover when the phone is not in place. All the sponsors of the F1 2000 campaign and the Ferrari manufacturers plate is self made as well.

 

[AussieStig]

Update 14-08-2013

Just finished the headrest it is finished in black leather and is padded with 25mm thick foam. It was a bugger to get the leather on, one burnt finger later, ahem hot glue burns like a proverbial. But the result was worth the pain. The Ferrari badge is rubberized and stuck to the leather with..........., you guessed it, hot glue.


The steering wheel saga continues, I have a MOMO red and Black now, so I am thinking of robbing the connectors from the black to use on the red, and this will free up the G27 plugs so that I dont have to modify or cut them to get the red onto it. Just need to figure out the most non destructive way to get the MOMO red onto my G27.

Cheers mates

 

[AussieStig]

A little bit of work in Gimp!!!, just to give you guys an idea of the finished rig.

Cheers

 

[madaz72]

hi cool set up can you send me a copy of your pedal templates and do you have a template of your rig .
cheers madaz72.
rotarat72@gmail.com

 

[AussieStig]

hi cool set up can you send me a copy of your pedal templates and do you have a template of your rig .
cheers madaz72.
rotarat72@gmail.com

Hey madaz72,

Thanks for your comment and sorry for not replying until now. I can send you the template of the pedal risers, no worries, but my rig was made using self cut 3 mm triplex templates. I still have these, but they are too big to do anything with. Check your email address for the pedal template, let me know how you get on with it or if you need anymore info, no worries mate.

Cheers AussieStig

 

[coalase]

Bumping this from the dead - (Rig looks great, love the pedal risers, may have to re-consider my reverse mounted ones!)

FYI - I successfully modded a G25 with a Red momo force wheel, have all buttons working as well which required some soldering, wire running, and modding of PCB circuit in the momo wheel with an x-acto knife. Your G27 will be much much easier in this department as it has the same number of buttons on the wheel and can likely be wired directly to the appropriate terminals on the momo red PCB. If you need any input on modding the G27 don't hesitate to post up. I believe i have seen wiring diagrams posted on other sites as well of which wire goes where on the momo steering wheel innards.

Mounting the the wheel: On the G25 u can simply remove the steering wheel and paddles from the G25 steering hub and use it to mount the Momo Red wheel. The bolt pattern is exactly the same, the only modification you will need to make is re-tapping the threads on the G25 Hub to accommodate the screws from the Momo Wheel. As an added benefit, since the Momo has a hub molded on the back of the wheel, the G25 hub will essentially become a standoff, giving some much welcome clearance between paddles and the base of the wheel unit.

I barely used my G25 in stock form as i hated the flimsy wheel rim & paddles, the red momo rim has transformed the unit completely. the higher quality wheel rim, vastly improved paddles, additional thickness, and extra buttons compliment the G25s improved FFB and Pedals perfectly.

 

[AussieStig]

Hey coalase,

Thanks for your post mate, I appreciate you taking the time to go into detail regarding swapping the wheels over. Would you have any pictures of your conversion? I would really like to see them. I do really like the way the Momo Red feels in comparison to the standard rim. It feels much more like a real wheel and I believe with the slightly smaller diameter it also translates to a stronger FFB in game. Someone on another forum helped me out with this diagram. although they say I have to relocate the G27 PCB to inside the case. I'm not so sure about that, I am no hero when it comes to re wiriring electronics. I was hoping to get hold of a couple of extra plugs from a G27 and wire the Momo red wires into those, thus allowing me to just plug the Momo Red into the G27 PCB. What do you reckon, is that feasible?

I am keen to know your thoughts and see any pics you may have of your conversion, cheers mate, AussieStig

 

[coalase]

Regrettably, despite my best intentions, I only have pictures of the finished product. Just as when i head to the garage to work on the cars - all thoughts of documenting anything suddenly evaporate from my brain as soon as i start wrenching. When i get some time this week i will see if i can dig up the wiring diagram i had drawn up on a post-it note. I've attached some photo's and linked to a gallery of my setup.

I'm note sure of the exact size of the G27 steering wheel PCB, but the red momo has good deal of room available under the button faceplate for tucking away wiring and other nonsense. depending on the size of the PCB u may be able to fit it in there rather than moving it back into the base. Either way some basic wire splicing/soldering will be needed. U can use the existing connectors(or get some spares) from each unit and splice together the corresponding wires using the diagram above. The length of wire needed will all depend on where u choose to put the G27 board. It looks like u'd only need to solder 2 wires directly to terminals on the boards itself, and the ones pictured would be fairly easy to tap into. once you have those 2 soldered u may want to grab a mini hot glue gun and secure these wires to the board itself to ensure no stress will be placed on the connection by the wire u run.

From the looks of it, the wiring and soldering required should be pretty straight forward, even if you are inexperienced it shouldn't give you much trouble. i'm no hero with electronics and circuit boards either, but some wire strippers, heat shrink, and a soldering iron should be all u need. Just take your time routing the wires, measure twice, cut once etc... these units are very straight forward and it will be fairly obvious where u should route things to avoid binding.

Gallery of my g25/momo
http://imgur.com/a/2DyFi

 

[AussieStig]

Hey Coalase,

Cheers mate, the pics are very helpful and you have done a great job marrying up the base with the wheel. Unfortunately in my case there would not be enough room in my rig to allow for the wheel to move approx. 3 inches closer to my seating position. I may have to see if I can't modify the back of the MOMO red wheel a bit more in order to accommodate the G27 PCB and mount the wheel near enough to the same position as the original wheel. It will be a challenge but I am sure it is achievable.

I know what you mean about taking pics whilst working, it always seems to slip my mind as well and then you think, s**t I could have made a nice reportage and posted it.

Thanks again for your advice and pics, I really appreciate it, cheers for now, AussieStig

 

[AussieStig]

Hey guys,



It's been a little while, but I would like to show you my latest work. The Tillett racing seat is snugly built in and can be removed easily. I have upholstered the surrounds in real leather and I have added an extra thin cushion on the shifter side of the cockpit. The cushion gives me a little comfort whilst shifting. What do you guys think? If I don't say so myself, its looking quite coooool !!!!

Cheers, AussieStig

 

[Germinator]

Jaw dropping awesome.

 

[AussieStig]

Jaw dropping awesome.

Cheers mate, appreciate it, AussieStig

 

[AussieStig]

it is getting there. I am deciding whether to wrap it or paint it. I was leaning towards wrapping in red carbon fibre. I think this would look cool. What do you guys think? Cheers AussieStig