Looking For Mechanic To Assist In YouTube Series!

[XDesperado67]

Uhm taunto not trying to pick a fight here and definitely not a real world mechanic though I have helped turn a few wrenches but yes you can adjust toe and Camber on a vehicle with a solid rear axle. The term refers to the fact that the axle is either a single piece running through the rear end or has had the gears welded to achieve the same result of both ends of the axle rotating at the same speed. Favored by some for drag racing as you don't have just one wheel break free and spin on you, though it creates some serious issues with cornering, and modern means of traction control have seen a serious curtailment of its use in cars driven on the street. The fact that the axle is solid has nothing to do with what sorts of adjustments you can make to the wheels. Oh and Mercedes-Benz makes a lot of trucks and busses...I've driven plenty of both...and dodged countless more on the autobahn in a Geo Metro!🤬

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

Taunto, I think Adrenaline's point, and the existence of Rousch, is that one can install a real suspension. In GT5, it costs 20K.

My question is, does GT5 acurately portay the difference between the stock live axle and a fully independent suspension with default camber settings.

 

[gogatrs]

Now now children.
Let's stay on topic, and keep the fights on the other threads.
Could whoever does this also do a short video on why they're making the changes?

 

[Adrenaline]

That's an alternative explanation, that installing a 20k suspension gives you IRS.
But my main point was that Solid Rear Axles most definitely can have camber and toe.
If I have to link you to websites that sell them, or NASCAR video's that show you how, I can do the searching. But it seems like pretty common knowledge to anyone who's ever been around a race track, or even watched a race on TV. Especially for someone trying to use their title as a 'Licensed Mechanic' as leverage...

 

[gogatrs]

That's an alternative explanation, that installing a 20k suspension gives you IRS.
But my main point was that Solid Rear Axles most definitely can have camber and toe.
If I have to link you to websites that sell them, or NASCAR video's that show you how, I can do the searching. But it seems like pretty common knowledge to anyone who's ever been around a race track, or even watched a race on TV. Especially for someone trying to use their title as a 'Licensed Mechanic' as leverage...

I can change rear camber/toe on my kart IRL, but I choose not to as it provides very little advantages. That's only on karts though.
Only if you want to get those last few hundredths...

 

[AssassinTuner]

I agree with you on the GT500 mustang. I don't know if they new 2011 gt500 is independent or not, or even the new 5.0L mustang. Haven't seen underneath one of those yet.

A computer technician? They do deal with alot of computers in the car, but you half to understand how to run the scan tool before you can even diagnose anything and know what your looking for. People would be surprised but a dealership like Mercedes, we do the same work as at a ford or chevy dealership, it's just Mercedes doesn't sell trucks. We still do front end work and lots of engine work and maintenance.

You didn't understand what I was getting at do you. You can not adjust camber and toe on a solid rear axle that is rear wheel drive. I understand that you can do it in the game, the point I was getting at is that it's not possible in real life.

I know, I'm a Mechanic too, but don't work for a dealership, we use Genesis for scanning (I know it's jokes compared to your system)

I said that because Mercs have more computers stuffed in them, then Pizza Pops have filling. My goodness 6 in the trunk 5 under the back seats 100 in the dash (in-case you think I'm crazy, I'm exaggerating) So many it's crazy, but more and more they are all coming in like that.

 

[AssassinTuner]

I repeat, go to any circle track, and take a look at the rear end.
Not GT5 Circle tracks, a real life track.
Or pick a Sunday of your choice, and turn on NASCAR.

What kind of frame are those cars using on those Circle Tracks?

 

[Adrenaline]

What kind of frame are those cars using on those Circle Tracks?

That's an awfully broad question, so many different classes, per track, per area, and I'm not familiar with all of the possible variations, even furthermore, that each variation probably has 10 different chassis options.

 

[Taunto_Svt]

That's an alternative explanation, that installing a 20k suspension gives you IRS.
But my main point was that Solid Rear Axles most definitely can have camber and toe.
If I have to link you to websites that sell them, or NASCAR video's that show you how, I can do the searching. But it seems like pretty common knowledge to anyone who's ever been around a race track, or even watched a race on TV. Especially for someone trying to use their title as a 'Licensed Mechanic' as leverage...

Up yours. I do drive on race tracks thank you. Every second Friday. Just not a lame and boring circle track. Rednecks and hillbillys race on circle tracks and watch NASCAR. Personally NASCAR isn't racing. All you do is turn left and draft.

NASCAR is not compariable to any road car. As my examples were mustang and challenger, charger. There you go ranting on and on about race cars when only race car and tracks you know are circle tracks. Speak up when you have some experience. Damn little kid here thinks he is the king.

And sorry yes you are right about Mercedes busses. We do see the odd one. I've never seen a Mercedes truck tho. Didn't know they made them.

Case in point your little tv show should be sending it to the Garage not a mechanic. What I was originally getting at was your no mechanic tuning cars on gt5. Just call it the garage or shop. That was my opinion

 

[XDesperado67]

That's something PD should put in the game. All the drifters would go nuts over World of Outlaws style dirt track/circle track racing. 800+ HP engine, 4 wheels and tires all different sizes, a space shuttle size wing and just enough metal to hook it all together with the driver strapped to the front of the motor. Get 20 of them all lined up wheel to wheel and nose to tail, screaming around the track sideways in the ultimate powerslide competition! Love it.

 

[Taunto_Svt]

Haha ya that would be cool

 

[Adrenaline]

Up yours. I do drive on race tracks thank you. Every second Friday. Just not a lame and boring circle track. Rednecks and hillbillys race on circle tracks and watch NASCAR. Personally NASCAR isn't racing. All you do is turn left and draft.

NASCAR is not compariable to any road car. As my examples were mustang and challenger, charger. There you go ranting on and on about race cars when only race car and tracks you know are circle tracks. Speak up when you have some experience. Damn little kid here thinks he is the king.

And sorry yes you are right about Mercedes busses. We do see the odd one. I've never seen a Mercedes truck tho. Didn't know they made them.

Case in point your little tv show should be sending it to the Garage not a mechanic. What I was originally getting at was your no mechanic tuning cars on gt5. Just call it the garage or shop. That was my opinion

Whoa, the estrogen levels, I can't take it. You're not gunna start crying are you?

I have yet to figure out how and or why GT5 made the game with the ability to tune camber and toe on a straight rear axle car such as the mustang and challenger. It's Impossible.

You can not adjust camber and toe on a solid rear axle that is rear wheel drive.

You said it can't be done, that it's impossible. You're wrong. You can whine and throw as many insults as you want, but you can't change the facts.

 

[AssassinTuner]

Chill Bro, don't loose your cool. I'll tell you right now this board don't want to hear any IRL stuff, they have their opinions, just let them have them, don't get worked up over it. Enjoy the game.

PS to get camber adjustments out of fixed axles you can get ball joints that are adjustable (slightly) other that it's a no go, usually aftermarket, I don't know if any vehicles with fixed axles coming with them stock.

 

[Adrenaline]

Chill Bro, don't loose your cool. I'll tell you right now this board don't want to hear any IRL stuff, they have their opinions, just let them have them, don't get worked up over it. Enjoy the game.

PS to get camber adjustments out of fixed axles you can get ball joints that are adjustable (slightly) other that it's a no go, usually aftermarket, I don't know if any vehicles with fixed axles coming with them stock.

There are other ways, such as bell mouthed axle splines, even a Blow Torch can get the job done if you want to go old school.

 

[AssassinTuner]

There are other ways, such as bell mouthed axle splines, even a Blow Torch can get the job done if you want to go old school.

Yeah there are, but his point is it's not on many if not all of the Cars in GT5 (take his examples) I think I pointed out how modifying the original suspensions can get not only adjustments but full independent.

You have to understand Mechanics are taught always to think of the Man Spec. Please don't dig at the guy too much, he lost his cool and learned something. Let's leave it at that.

 

[XDesperado67]

Okay I give! CrispyChicken please don't refer to me as a mechanic in your videos. Instead I much prefer that from now on you refer to me by my proper title which is Doctor of Multidemensional Velocity Engineering, or as those of us in the trade like to say Velocity engineer or VE.

 

[AssassinTuner]

CrispyChicken Please

Chuckles, Dude I like your Character, Thumbs Up!

 

[Rotary Junkie]

You have to understand Mechanics are taught always to think of the Man Spec.

True this. It's bloody annoying when you've got a car that does things wrong when certain things are done to within the manufacturer's specifications... And of course most mechanics can't fix it because WELL IT SAYS IT'S RIGHT. Particularly with alignments, moreso on the 1st gen Mazda6.

 

[AssassinTuner]

True this. It's bloody annoying when you've got a car that does things wrong when certain things are done to within the manufacturer's specifications... And of course most mechanics can't fix it because WELL IT SAYS IT'S RIGHT. Particularly with alignments, moreso on the 1st gen Mazda6.

I know what you mean, back probing to find mysterious splicing, gets annoying. had a Echo with a rough idle seemed like she was misfiring, ran a scan, hit a P1015 (if I remember) checked the coil and it was off a Different engine, Toyota yeah, but come on, not even a jobber.

 

[niky]

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that you can give solid axles camber... even driven solid axles as on Mustangs.

The only problem is, products that allow this are uncommon and expensive, or risky (bending the axle puts additional strain on the drivetrain)... it's so much easier with a torsion beam, where you're not going to break anything mechanical by taking a mallet to the beam...

Only thing is... no way you can do it as easily or with as wide a range as in GT5.

Then again... the almost infinite range of gearing GT5 gives you is pretty unreal, too.

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And yet, it won't even give you a cheap, simple boost controller...

 

[dr_slump]

And yet, it won't even give you a cheap, simple boost controller...

Nitro! I miss you!