Loss position in a 15 minute Race

[Djwess]

On the 15 minute race around Nurburgring, I went into lap 3 before time was called and was way in the lead. About 3 minutes later I notice they put me back in 3rd place after the two slowest cars finished after time was call and they just completed their 2nd lap. I thought I t would correct itself but it didn't, it gave me 3rd place still even though I was in lap 3 and they were in lap 2.

Can anyone help?

 

[will-i-am]

On the 15 minute race around Nurburgring, I went into lap 3 before time was called and was way in the lead. About 3 minutes later I notice they put me back in 3rd place after the two slowest cars finished after time was call and they just completed their 2nd lap. I thought I t would correct itself but it didn't, it gave me 3rd place still even though I was in lap 3 and they were in lap 2.

Can anyone help?

This also happened to me but in the 24 min LeMans race. Just now
Wonder if it's 1.03 update
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/24min-of-leman-glitch.297144/

 

[ULTRAVIOLENZZ]

What race is this? I remember I was racing on Ascari (career mode) I dont remember the race but I lost a lap for no reason and the A.I. gained a lap. The counter said 3/3 laps then changed to 2/3 laps. I was in front leading the race. I restarted the race after I noticed that. Maybe its a bug.

Or maybe...I travelled back in time. That's why I felt something wrong...something weird. Something unreal. Or maybe I just fell asleep. But it really happend. Seriously. Trust me. Don't mind my mumblings.

 

[Dragonbeard]

What race is this? I remember I was racing on Ascari (career mode) I dont remember the race but I lost a lap for no reason and the A.I. gained a lap. The counter said 3/3 laps then changed to 2/3 laps. I was in front leading the race. I restarted the race after I noticed that. Maybe its a bug.

In ascari there is a section where you get really close to the section of track that is about half a lap away. I've noticed that if you end up on the other side of the track it might force you to continue from there again, ruining your entire race...

 

[akyp]

This also happened to me but in the 24 min LeMans race. Just now
Wonder if it's 1.03 update
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/24min-of-leman-glitch.297144/

Happened to me in 1.02 as well. Was hoping 1.03 will fix it.

 

[ULTRAVIOLENZZ]

In ascari there is a section where you get really close to the section of track that is about half a lap away. I've noticed that if you end up on the other side of the track it might force you to continue from there again, ruining your entire race...

Hmmm... maybe you're right. I don't remember exactly what happen in that race. I immediately restarted the race thinking its a bug.

 

[leeroy98]

i updated today to 1.03 and just had same issue so no fix... i just raced 15 min nurgburgring lead going into final lap 3 won the race but 2 cars finished lap down i ended up getting bronze havent tried again to late in the day

 

[PoSM]

Just did the 15 min Nurburgring. Was leading into lap 3. timer ran out not long after starting lap 3. AI rammed me off the road when I looked at my position I was back in 14th instead of 4th. Finished race in 4th place however it's registered it as 14th and only gave me 14th place credits. I did notice that the AI's lead earlier in the race was jumping about all over the place. It was consistently 20 seconds for ages, then in the space of 1 sector dropped to 11 seconds and then down to 4 by the next. After I span out - which wasn't for long, the AI had somehow shot up to a 12 second lead despite the 2nd and 3rd place cars still being in sight (and not too far away from the first when it rammed me.)

Needless to say I'm a bit p-ed off about it!

 

[PoSM]

Anyone tried slowing down at the finish line at the end of lap 2 and just crossing when the timer runs out?

 

[Djwess]

won't work when the AI is on your tail. Before 1.03 I was able to do 3 laps around the ring in the 15 minute endurance without having to worry about loosing position. It just happened again, I also did not leave or cut corner on the track at all. This is clearly a bug on PD's part

 

[WaistedMenkey]

Just happened to me on the 15 minute Nurburgring race. Pulled a 7:09 and a 7:13 lap times, took 1st on the very last sharp turn before we entered lap 3. Me and the other high placed cars all dropped to the bottom 30 seconds later when it rolled end of 15 minutes and the guys who ended at lap 2 crossed the finish line. I dropped to 10th place (though still in 1st with the McLaren and Viper behind me). When I finished the 3rd lap (still in 1st) it showed me in 1st at the final leaderboard display bit I got credit payout of 10th and 1 star for 10th (simply completing it) and the menu reflects 10th place.

 

[muz]

Yup. Happened to me as well. 15 mins round apricot hill. Only won by a couple of seconds but ended up nearly last. On the lap counter it shows me on 12 laps but everyone else on 11
Only the endurance races left fr me so not a lot I can do in the game till this gets fixed. Poor show

 

[Sunnyb255]

Another one here, this time in the 10 minutes races. In 1 race had lapped several cars and was on the screen in 1st place. However, when the credits were issued it indicated I had finished in 10th place. Redid the race and made sure that I didn't lap anyone and this time was awarded 1st. However, it later happened in another 10 minute race without me lapping anyone and finished far ahead, name in #1 space but awarded only 2nd in credits.

Until this problem is resolved I'm not going to waste any more time in the TIMED races. Way too many glitches and have become very frustrated with the constant network disconnects.

 

[Manzda6]

Played gt6 yesterday the first time and had the same problem with one of the 3 beginner races where you earn your first stars.
I was in 1st position with my Honda but at the end of the race (2laps) it indicated that I finished 2nd.

 

[ZedMan1996]

You get penalised for cutting corners. This adds time to your race.

 

[Manzda6]

You get penalised for cutting corners. This adds time to your race.

Ah, thanks for the hint!

 

[ZedMan1996]

You also get a 30 second penalty if a race forces you to take x amount of pits. That's 30 seconds per pit miss.

 

[Tired Tyres]

You get penalised for cutting corners. This adds time to your race.

Proof required.

You also get a 30 second penalty if a race forces you to take x amount of pits. That's 30 seconds per pit miss.

More proof required.

I stay on the track at all times. I NEVER cut corners. Since 1.03 the results at the Nurburgring 15 minutes are always as follows.

If I win the games awards me 13th place.

If I am 2nd the game awards me 14th place.

If I am 3rd the game awards me 15th place.

If I am 4th the game awards me 16th place.

The procedure is happening as follows, I am listed in my correct position until the straight on the last lap when I will suddenly drop to 13th, 14th, 15th or 16th.

When I cross the finish line my position is corrected. In the results screen it is correct but the winner, if it's not me, is now last, 15th, 14th or 13th. The other cars that beat the timer to do the 3rd lap are also nowhere near their proper positions.

I then get the prize for 13th, 14th, 15th or 16th.

 

[ZedMan1996]

Well you said you "Never cut corners" so that's why you don't know it gives you a time penalty. Its the same online, especially as I race in a series where we need to make 2 pit stops.

Why would I lie about something tiny like this?

 

[Tired Tyres]

Because it is something I have NEVER come across in the game offline GT-Mode at all.

I have spun off in the past so I would assume if a penalty is applied I'd know about it.

Again, Proof is required.

Again pitstops - Where are the compulsory pitstops in GT-Mode?

Edit. Spa 24 minutes, I over ran the curb onto the Kemmel straight, the game gave me the real time 5 second countdown penalty when I lost drive and got it back when the countdown stopped. Is that the penalty you are referring to?

This is a live penalty that is added to your current laptime. It is not applied after the race.

This has not happened to me at the Nurburgring so what is causing the timing issue?

This issue is with 1.03 patch.

 

[Matt368]

Apricot Hill 20 minutes for me just now. Crossed the line in 1st about 20 seconds before the timer ran out, halfway through that lap I dropped to 11th then 15th then crossed the line at the end of that same lap and registered 1st. But again, only got credits/stars/position for 10th in the end.

It's nothing to do with time penalties its clearly a problem with the game thinking the winner is the first car to cross the line after X amount of minutes has past rather than taking the number of laps into account. We need to wait for a fix annoyingly. I'm just going to do the X Laps events and wait for the X minutes to be fixed (hopefully with the patch we may get at the end of the month)

 

[eran0004]

Apricot Hill 20 minutes for me just now. Crossed the line in 1st about 20 seconds before the timer ran out, halfway through that lap I dropped to 11th then 15th then crossed the line at the end of that same lap and registered 1st. But again, only got credits/stars/position for 10th in the end.

It's nothing to do with time penalties its clearly a problem with the game thinking the winner is the first car to cross the line after X amount of minutes has past rather than taking the number of laps into account. We need to wait for a fix annoyingly. I'm just going to do the X Laps events and wait for the X minutes to be fixed (hopefully with the patch we may get at the end of the month)

It's not simply the first person to cross the line after the timer has run out. I did that, registered first in the initial results screen but then I got the rewards for 16th place (which was my real position). Seems like something more is required, but I have no idea what it is.

Edit: Here's a theory. The game registers two finishing positions, if you were the 10th car to pass the line after the timer ran out your first position is 10th, and if you had the most laps done your second position is 1st. So it registers both the 10th position and the 1st position and then it rewards you for the worst of those. If so, it sounds like it's a flawed logic where it's assumed that your worst position of those two registered position is always going to be your true position.

 

[Dragonbeard]

It's not simply the first person to cross the line after the timer has run out. I did that, registered first in the initial results screen but then I got the rewards for 16th place (which was my real position). Seems like something more is required, but I have no idea what it is.

Edit: Here's a theory. The game registers two finishing positions, if you were the 10th car to pass the line after the timer ran out your first position is 10th, and if you had the most laps done your second position is 1st. So it registers both the 10th position and the 1st position and then it rewards you for the worst of those. If so, it sounds like it's a flawed logic where it's assumed that your worst position of those two registered position is always going to be your true position.

Since the only thing that counts to finishing the race is the timer, I don't see why the number of laps is even part of the position. Just using the relative position should be enough...

 

[Argon]

There is a similar discussion going on over here that might be worth looking at. As others have said in this thread it has nothing to do with penalties or shortcuts or tracking two finishes. It's a silly programming error that has meant that unless you are on EXACTLY the same lap as the other cars when you cross the finish line you will not be awarded first place.

In @Matt368 's case he crossed the line before the counter ended and started another lap along with a couple of other cars. The back runners then got to the line after the counter ended and as they were the first ones to cross when it ended they were awarded the top spots. @Matt368 along with the other cars whilst one lap in the lead, finished after the tail runners so he got the lower placings.

It would seem that the program is taking the total elapsed time at the time you cross the line to determine what your placing is and as @Matt368 took longer due to having to complete the additional lap he has a lower placing.

Hope that made some sense but for sure the situation is pretty messed up and hopefully it'll be sorted soon

 

[ReddyZ06]

On the 15 minute race around Nurburgring, I went into lap 3 before time was called and was way in the lead. About 3 minutes later I notice they put me back in 3rd place after the two slowest cars finished after time was call and they just completed their 2nd lap. I thought I t would correct itself but it didn't, it gave me 3rd place still even though I was in lap 3 and they were in lap 2.

Can anyone help?

Same thing for me, 15 minute race - Nurburgring. Four wins but highest place given was 2nd and then the next time I logged in it had dropped me to 6th and took away a star.

Mike

p.s. FWIW, I did experience the already known error in the 1.03 update

"... receive a message stating that the system was not shut down correctly last time. The system will ask then to perform a system file check and then the reboot is completed."

 

[bengolding94]

If you trundle around with the slower cars and are the first car to pass the finish line after the required time has elapsed are you awarded with first place despite finishing in a lower 'true' position? I haven't had time to play this game much so far, so I haven't encountered this problem, but when I do get a chance to play I'd rather just get the stars, credits and cars and move on. It'd be a weird 'exploit', but to my mind it's not cheating if you have the capability to beat the AI anyway.

 

[Argon]

If you trundle around with the slower cars and are the first car to pass the finish line after the required time has elapsed are you awarded with first place despite finishing in a lower 'true' position? I haven't had time to play this game much so far, so I haven't encountered this problem, but when I do get a chance to play I'd rather just get the stars, credits and cars and move on. It'd be a weird 'exploit', but to my mind it's not cheating if you have the capability to beat the AI anyway.

If you are on the same lap as the other cars and are just a nose ahead when you cross the line after the time is up you will get the win

 

[eran0004]

If you trundle around with the slower cars and are the first car to pass the finish line after the required time has elapsed are you awarded with first place despite finishing in a lower 'true' position? I haven't had time to play this game much so far, so I haven't encountered this problem, but when I do get a chance to play I'd rather just get the stars, credits and cars and move on. It'd be a weird 'exploit', but to my mind it's not cheating if you have the capability to beat the AI anyway.

No, you're not. You'll be displayed as 1st in the first result screen directly after the race, but when the reward screen pops up it's been corrected.

 

[bengolding94]

Ah ok, thanks for the answers. Just thought I should check.

Hard to believe that such an issue exists in a final product at all, let alone after patches!

 

[leeroy98]

just got a small in game update like after 1.01 since swicthing on today not sure wot its for no word online so far