Lotus Elise 111R Setup - comments please

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Hi guys, this is my first setup submission so go easy. :)

Most of the testing was done on Costa Di Amalfi, the racing tires were pretty essential, although it's drivable with Sports Soft tires, anything less and you simply don't have enough grip to turn well.
This setup is designed more for a fun drive than maximum performance. I achieved faster lap times with a racing flywheel for example, but the power delivery was nowhere near as smooth, and cornering was harder - because the gears are so close together and the extra acceleration means you may change gear at the apex if you're not careful.

For a more competitive setup I would suggest a higher gear autoset (maye 7 or 8), a racing flywheel and perhaps lower the decelleration LSD to 10.

Still, the following setup is pretty good, tested it briefly on the Deep Forest track with AI toughness set at 2 and came first about 8 seconds ahead of the pack (including a Zonda).

Please tell me what you think, whether or not you think it is good/fun, or what changes you would make. Cheers!

GENERAL INFO:

Power - 311BHP/7800rpm (under vaulation in garage, everywhere else says 315BHP)

Torque - 204.69ft.lb/6800rpm
Mass - 782kg

TUNING:

Exhaust - Racing
CPU Type - Equipped
NA Tune - None
Tyres - Racing Soft/Racing Soft
Nitrous - None
Turbo - Stage Three
Intercooler - None
Supercharger - None
Brakes -Racing
BBC - 17/15
Suspension -
Spring Rate - 12.5/14.0
Ride Height - 95/95
Damper (Bounce) - 7/7
Damper (Rebound) - 8/8
Camber - 1.5/1.5
Toe Angle - 0/0
Stabiliser - 5/5

Transmission - Autoset 5
Clutch - Triple Plate
Flywheel - Sports
Prop. Shaft - None
Driving Aids - 0/0/0
Downforce - 17/30
LSD - 10/10/30
AYC - None
VCDC - Standard
Weight Balance - 0/0


P.s. Hopefully I'll be able to get some pics up soon.
 
It's very stiff for such a light car and the R4 tyres are definitely overkill. By softening the car by about 50% and increasing the ride height by around 30mm you would gain a chance of weight shifting, which in turn would enable you to use lower grade tyres.

If you plan publishing more tunings, consider the Tuner Garages thread as a very good option. Create a garage in that thread, post setups in there and you'll have a great chance of getting lots of customers. 👍
 
Good advice from Greycap there 👍.

I'd go even further in that if a car's set-up won't work without Racing tyres then there's a fundamental issue that needs addressing (besides the inherent flaws within the GT system).
 
I was gonna say the same...those brake settings are real strong, too..i would constantly be fearing a spin as i approached some of those narrow alley-sized streets, but if it works for you, use it.
 
There is spin with anything less than Racing tires, during hard braking - but the racing tires, the dec.LSD at 30, rear downforce and stronger front brakes pretty much curb it, it feels like it's glued to the floor.
I'll add weaker brakes to the list though, thanks. :)
If you can, try the setup on Costa Di Amalfi and you'll see the overall effect of the settings, even though they must look bad on paper lol (based on the response I got ;) ).
 
It does feel like a go kart, yes, but personally I wouldn't take a go kart to any course that has bumps or curbs as those things have a tendency of taking off at the smallest bump.
 
^ and my personal experience confirms what he says. if even one single tyre hits curb, you'll have worlds first flying private car.. for the following few seconds. :crazy:
 
There is spin with anything less than Racing tires, during hard braking - but the racing tires, the dec.LSD at 30, rear downforce and stronger front brakes pretty much curb it, it feels like it's glued to the floor.
I'll add weaker brakes to the list though, thanks. :)
If you can, try the setup on Costa Di Amalfi and you'll see the overall effect of the settings, even though they must look bad on paper lol (based on the response I got ;) ).

I would especially weaken the rear brakes...not so much the front ones. Brakes in gT4 don't lock up like they should :mad: but that doesn't mean they're not trying to lock up.

Other than that i'm with the Finns. I'd raise the ride (tho i'm not sure how much higher you can go in an Elise 111R, i'm not familiar with this car yet). and weaken the springs, dampers & stabilizers. I'd have a middish front bound with a slightly weaker rear bound. And then the rebounds...those would all be weak...i'd go with 2 all around. Springs about half what they are (as Greycap mentioned). Stabilizers about 2 or 3....(not sure, i'd have to drive it)
 
It does feel like a go kart, yes, but personally I wouldn't take a go kart to any course that has bumps or curbs as those things have a tendency of taking off at the smallest bump.

Yeah, that jump on the second straight does give me about a second of air time ha, but the downforce at the rear means you rarely spin, you just land straight. You do loose a bit of speed though.

I would especially weaken the rear brakes...not so much the front ones. Brakes in gT4 don't lock up like they should but that doesn't mean they're not trying to lock up.

Other than that i'm with the Finns. I'd raise the ride (tho i'm not sure how much higher you can go in an Elise 111R, i'm not familiar with this car yet). and weaken the springs, dampers & stabilizers. I'd have a middish front bound with a slightly weaker rear bound. And then the rebounds...those would all be weak...i'd go with 2 all around. Springs about half what they are (as Greycap mentioned). Stabilizers about 2 or 3....(not sure, i'd have to drive it)
Thanks for the advice.

I'll try all these suggestions out tonight and get back to you with a new setup. 👍
 
Right, new settings. :)
The brakes are the only real thing that I couldn't get quite right I think, they feel a bit weak - but then I'm used to very strong brakes on most of my cars so that may be why.
With these settings it slides beautifully around the shallow corners on the Hong Kong track, provided you tap the brakes for a split second as you approach them. Best piece of advice - don't rev at the beginning of the race, as the first gear will redline all the way to second gear, just keep the needle to the left of the rev counter until you can pull away. Do you guys prefer this setup?

P.s. Good for short tracks with few long sections, not longer fast sections as the car is very unstable at high speeds. The Nur' Ring was really brutal with these settings. :scared: Managed it in about 8 mins though heh.


TESTED:

Track: Hong Kong
Top Speed: 139mph (achieved in approx 680m)

Elise111top_edited.jpg


GENERAL INFO:

Power - 311BHP/7800rpm (under vaulation in garage, everywhere else says 315BHP)

Torque - 204.69ft.lb/6800rpm
Mass - 782kg

TUNING:

Exhaust - Racing
CPU Type - Equipped
NA Tune - None
Tyres - S2/S2
Nitrous - None
Turbo - Stage Three
Intercooler - None
Supercharger - None
Brakes -Racing
BBC - 9/11
Suspension -
Spring Rate - 6.2/7.0
Ride Height - 125/125
Damper (Bounce) - 4/3
Damper (Rebound) - 2/2
Camber - 1.5/1.5
Toe Angle - -1/-2
Stabiliser - 3/3

Transmission - Autoset 5
Gear 1 -3.760
Gear 2 -2.651
Gear 3 -2.084
Gear 4 -1.680
Gear 5 -1.393
Gear 6 -1.116
Final Gear -4.529

Clutch - Triple Plate
Flywheel - Sports
Prop. Shaft - None
Driving Aids - 0/0/0
Downforce - 18/19
LSD - 10/10/30
AYC - None
VCDC - Standard
Weight Balance - 0/0

Elise111rear_edited.jpg


 
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