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Lotus Elise 111R / Tuned
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This thread has turned my Lotus 111R into a very driveable racing car as opposed to the bag of angry squirrels it's been up untill now. Thanks guys!
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Using jgda9rs's setup from this modifictation of bibi-phoque's setup. I happily pasted the Super class 700 point race at Fuji (obviously with the power turned up and the weight turned down to maximise the pointage). I'm quite convinced that the same setup is capable of winning (or at least a podium finish) the 700 point race at Suzuka as well. The only thing holding me back is my lack of knowledge of the track its self and my fat thumbs struggling with the silly little PS steering sticks.
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I managed to pull off the pp700 races with the jd's setup but with:
Power +35
Weight 85%
Aero 13/35
Ride Height 0/0
Final gear: 4.233
You'll still get murdered in straights if you dont get the corner previous perfect and to win those races you can pickup maybe 1/2 penalties - the important thing is the get up with the leaders asap for some reason they seem to stay together then instead of 1st being 5 secs away from 2nd
Power +35
Weight 85%
Aero 13/35
Ride Height 0/0
Final gear: 4.233
You'll still get murdered in straights if you dont get the corner previous perfect and to win those races you can pickup maybe 1/2 penalties - the important thing is the get up with the leaders asap for some reason they seem to stay together then instead of 1st being 5 secs away from 2nd
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I also worked on improving my setup. jgda9rs, your transmission setup works very well, I'm now using it :-)
here is my setup v2.0 (I read a good article on gt tuning and tried to match the numbers based on what I want the car to do, i.e. faster in the corners and significantly reduce oversteer) :
ride height 0-0
spring 5-10
damper 7-3
toe -0.25 +0.50
camber 0-0 (I'm really confused about this one, I can't figure it out really)
brake 5-3
Final gear 3.999 (thanks to jgda9rs) It works quite well for susuka
I get less oversteer at the corner before the long straight line, but still be careful there.
I just played for the past 4h online at susuka, and this setup allows for mistakes (i.e. somebody bumps into you, you can retrieve the car)
here is my setup v2.0 (I read a good article on gt tuning and tried to match the numbers based on what I want the car to do, i.e. faster in the corners and significantly reduce oversteer) :
ride height 0-0
spring 5-10
damper 7-3
toe -0.25 +0.50
camber 0-0 (I'm really confused about this one, I can't figure it out really)
brake 5-3
Final gear 3.999 (thanks to jgda9rs) It works quite well for susuka
I get less oversteer at the corner before the long straight line, but still be careful there.
I just played for the past 4h online at susuka, and this setup allows for mistakes (i.e. somebody bumps into you, you can retrieve the car)
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Would these tuning setups also apply for useage at Daytona Road Course or just Suzuka?
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they would apply, though i'm a bit skeptical about the gear ratios still. thing is, in suzuka and daytona the elevation changes are very different. i find that setup in suzuka will cause you a bit of lag in the s curves, specially after the chicane. whereas in daytona you need to again worry about the transmission because of the high speed banks.
they would apply, though i'm a bit skeptical about the gear ratios still. thing is, in suzuka and daytona the elevation changes are very different. i find that setup in suzuka will cause you a bit of lag in the s curves, specially after the chicane. whereas in daytona you need to again worry about the transmission because of the high speed banks.
glad to hear that mate. what is it about camber that you can't figure out ? or did i make yet another typo error ? because i dont remember writing down "0" for the camber values, just in case, here's a link to help you with the definition if that's the case == click! unfortunately, i sold my elise last night, and decided to start a new challenge. it's just too small for its own good, and i kept on getting passed on the straights. i wanna see how good it is by setting up an nsx to beat it. we'll see what happens. let me know how the set up goes for you in the future. i'll post up the updated version before i sold it. i still have them written down
they would apply, though i'm a bit skeptical about the gear ratios still. thing is, in suzuka and daytona the elevation changes are very different. i find that setup in suzuka will cause you a bit of lag in the s curves, specially after the chicane. whereas in daytona you need to again worry about the transmission because of the high speed banks.
glad to hear that mate. what is it about camber that you can't figure out ? or did i make yet another typo error ? because i dont remember writing down "0" for the camber values, just in case, here's a link to help you with the definition if that's the case == click! unfortunately, i sold my elise last night, and decided to start a new challenge. it's just too small for its own good, and i kept on getting passed on the straights. i wanna see how good it is by setting up an nsx to beat it. we'll see what happens. let me know how the set up goes for you in the future. i'll post up the updated version before i sold it. i still have them written down
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Might give this a go today with these settings. I did a 2:05.0xx around suzuka last night, but my current setup just cant match the guys in first. He takes the final corner flat out at a faster speed than my car even reaches by that point. I simply cant turn as hard, I just understeer off.
I have noticed on the first place replay that he is gaining time on each shift also. Using the clutch seems to be faster. Pay attention to his 3rd to 4th shifts in particular.
I have noticed on the first place replay that he is gaining time on each shift also. Using the clutch seems to be faster. Pay attention to his 3rd to 4th shifts in particular.
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Oh guys i just spent half hour at suzuka with the 111r. I did a few laps with the setup posted here and another few laps with this one:
max wing
min power
a little weight to make 650pp
5/3 brakes
3.999 gearing
everything else stock (no tcs, abs=1).
The stock settings felt better, and I was faster. I did a 2:04.5xx and I am quite sure I can run 2:03s with it. I think you might be chasing ghosts with setup here. You can go faster with the stock setup. I think the best way forward would be to get your times down into the 2:03 or at least 2:04 then work on setup again.
max wing
min power
a little weight to make 650pp
5/3 brakes
3.999 gearing
everything else stock (no tcs, abs=1).
The stock settings felt better, and I was faster. I did a 2:04.5xx and I am quite sure I can run 2:03s with it. I think you might be chasing ghosts with setup here. You can go faster with the stock setup. I think the best way forward would be to get your times down into the 2:03 or at least 2:04 then work on setup again.
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No, reduce power to the minimum. Its what forza2 has rightly or wrongly taught me when faced with something like PP. You either go for all power or all handling, you cant have both.
that would be like having a passenger in an underpowered car. if anything that car needs corner balancing and a bigger wing and more downforce.
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err...
I just discovered today that I actually was using the suspension setup posted here. My bad
Though, I was using max downforce, minimum power and the lest amount of weight I could and still be at 650p. Oh I left the camber at stock settings though, dont know if that makes a difference at all. With this setup I did a 2:04.1 today. Had a much faster lap going but for some reason when I shifted up it jumped from 2nd to 4th, killing my lap
Its been happening a lot recently. Maybe I need a new wheel...I think I can get this setup into the 2:02 region. Just need more practice.
BTW online times are strange.. In a race I did a 2:03.4 lap, and that was while I passed 2 cars, one of which run me into the grass. There was very little in the way of slipstreaming either.
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err...
I just discovered today that I actually was using the suspension setup posted here. My bad
Though, I was using max downforce, minimum power and the lest amount of weight I could and still be at 650p. Oh I left the camber at stock settings though, dont know if that makes a difference at all. With this setup I did a 2:04.1 today. Had a much faster lap going but for some reason when I shifted up it jumped from 2nd to 4th, killing my lap
I think I can get this setup into the 2:02 region. Just need more practice.
BTW online times are strange.. In a race I did a 2:03.4 lap, and that was while I passed 2 cars, one of which run me into the grass. There was very little in the way of slipstreaming either.
you'll probably find it's just your driving, no matter what kind of circuit racing you do of you have someone to chase you start pushing harder because theres a target to aim for, not just race urself
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I get that but today I had a race where I was first after the first lap by quite a long way, so I decided to push as hard as I could to see what I could do. My 1st flying lap was a 2:08, then lap after that felt a lot better and was a 2:10. 7 seconds is not having no pressure, its catchup logic. The further ahead you get, the slower your car and maybe the reverse works also. Because the 2:03 lap I did was not that great and if I didnt get run off the road would have been quite close to a record.
But thats for another thread
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I can confirm that Nasanu's changes improves the performance on Susuka.
I did a really good lap with weight at 100% and power +6, and I got a low 2.06.
I then changed to minimum weight and improved by 1s instantly (with mistakes). I didn't have much time yesterday but I'm sure I will reach the 2.04 tonight.
Thanks for your input Nasanu!
I did a really good lap with weight at 100% and power +6, and I got a low 2.06.
I then changed to minimum weight and improved by 1s instantly (with mistakes). I didn't have much time yesterday but I'm sure I will reach the 2.04 tonight.
Thanks for your input Nasanu!
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I saw I was getting close of being quick out of the ranking, so I work hard yesterday and did 2.04.5xx :-)Finally dropped into the 2'04s today using this setup
Let's see what they have done with the Elise and the new update...
