Mad FinnTuners Co. - Road Racing Relics 150415

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The BMW's are ready, but I'm in the middle of studying for final exams so I'll PM the setups later.
 
Original setup used, apart from notes (*)
No Aids, ABS: 1


Ford GT ST '06
Winner @

International A Class, Group GT3 Series
650 PP or less and Racing Hard Tires or less

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Silverstone Grand Prix Circuit

The Monster, tamed. ;) 👍

P.S. : The Alpines photos added ^.
 
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Alright.. I have 1 Japanese mid-engined lightweight monster ready, 2 flat-floored BMW's and 1 Lambo Reventon waiting for desired PP information so I can finish tweaking that. After that, I will be writing the settings and PM them to happy owners.
 
Alright.. I have 1 Japanese mid-engined lightweight monster ready, 2 flat-floored BMW's and 1 Lambo Reventon waiting for desired PP information so I can finish tweaking that. After that, I will be writing the settings and PM them to happy owners.

Ah, then I'll get right to it. Any thing in particular is necessary when giving PP info?
 
Apologies, I've had the car for a few days now and I've had plenty of time to drive it, but some 'bring a knife to a gun fight' racing endeavors in GT6 have distracted me, yet again. (Its a problem, I know :lol:). I have however finally plopped myself in front of a computer long enough to get around to typing my thoughts about the following vehicle.

Lancer 1600RS '74

179 bhp, 21.1 kgfm, 724 kg, PP 450
Painted in Fuji White from Mitsubishi

This vehicle definitely carries signs of the unmistakeable MFT tweaking, from the lightweight chassis to the select values for its suspension, the car has that familiar feeling that everything done was done with purpose, beyond just setting laptimes.

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This car has character, and it has it in spades.
I had taken it to the Nordschleife for an early-morning cruise, not expecting much from the ~180hp engine, plus the vehicle sat on CS tires, so I knew not to expect loads of grip. But as soon as I turned to head for the start-line, the rear end taunted me with a gentle and controllable slide, easily handled instinctively, and as soon as I got back on the throttle, I could hear tire-squeal.
"Am I still spinning the tires ?" I asked, looking for signs of smoke and climbing tire temps, which I found none of, so onto the next gear I went, and I still heard it, and that's when I got the message this was definitely MFT's handy-work.
The car behaves wonderfully in good hands, with an appreciation for good weight-balancing skills. It can grip if you want it to, or it can slide just right to link some slower bends together for fun, and which one of those two it does comes from a commitment both car and driver make on the fly, As Richard Hammond once put it - "it's like shaking hands with an old friend."
The further through the circuit I traveled however, the more of the cars age and limited upgrades showed. Nothing falls short, mind you, its just that it leaves you wanting even more, more power, more go, more speed. It's that 'balanced package' that you wished you could find in more vehicles and in more levels of performance. The chassis feels totally capable of handling more power, and its from the 1970's !, it reminds me of the old MK.II Escorts from back in the day of 2WD WRC rallies, and I can only wish we could give it more, and end up with something like the following video, but for Tarmac use. 👍




I will try to get to a few more MFT vehicles before the end of next week, I just have to make sure not to spend all my time hot-lapping exotics & personal-projects :D. I also have to decide which vehicle I'd like to have MFT tinker with. (Yes I have a list, and no it's not an easy decision :P) but I'll let you know which car to tackle once I've decided.


 
Ooh, thanks for the review! I have to admit that this far this cute little Lancer is one of the most entertaining car I've ran into in GT6. It's just spades and spades of fun despite of low numbers, yet when needed, it punches it's way though in 500PP+ class. And as you noticed, it's master of most trades, from sliding to gripping, but falls bit short in the high speed sections. Oh well.. It's still a hilarious little beast, David in the middle of automotive Goliaths..
 
Shelby Cobra 427 SC '66
My settings:
  • Cockpit view, No Aids, ABS: 0
  • Brake Balance: 6/3
  • Didn't change the oil
  • Sports Computer added (for 550 PP)
  • Power Limiter: 64.5% (500 PP)
  • Tyres - Sports: Hard
Seasonal Event: A-Spec
Intermediate Level Non-Racing Car Challenge
Track: Apricot Hill Raceway
Normal cars, PP - 500 or less, Tyres - Sports: Soft or less


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The Beast Win ;)

Well tamed, still additional driving lessons required for this snake. 👍
 
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Thanks for that! 👍

I have a wish (for everyone reading this, actually) though, you wouldn't mind cutting the actual setup out of the quote? There's always the possibility of having to change something in the setup thanks to physics changes and we'd greatly appreciate if there was only the original setup available to avoid people using an outdated version by accident.
 
Lovely to see that the two of you are back in business officially 👍

While my PS3 DVD unit packed up a second time, a new one is on order and will hopefully be with me by Monday. Not promising anything in terms of when I will be able to test any of the cars (almost 1 year old daughter at home) but hope for some reviews soon.
 
Now that's definitely something to look forward to! We should get something new done too but I have to admit that inspiration hasn't been at its greatest lately.
 
Not to mention that I've had some issues with my PS3/GT6.. But this weekend we WILL release couple cars.
 
So, it took me from Monday till last night to get the new PS3 sorted and GT6 installed on it. It seems that having the backup on before the game with all the updates was the wrong thing to do but now finally it runs again. And while a fully fledged review is not yet feasible, I sneaked down this morning and had a quick attempt with the Mitsubishi Galant GTO. As said, a comparison test with its slightly older brother to follow shortly.

Nevertheless, as a first short sign of life, my impressions after having driven the Galant on the Rome and Suzuka East circuits.

First things first - the car definitely has Greycap's DNA all over it. Turning in tight corners is done much more effectively by engaging the pedals (the rightmost one at that) than the steering wheel, and part throttle or coasting turning does not seem to work at all - i.e. the car will understeer. At the same time, if you do your braking in time and turn in early, with a smooth but healthy throttle application, the car turns wonderfully and is nicely throttle adjustable in the slower corners.

One positive effect is the braking - which was a bit of a surprise with a light back and no ABS. I have not had time to try if dive bombing into corners has the car all over the place but sensible braking does not have the car veer off from the intended line at all and if you slowly let up the braking pressure towards the end and give the car a fraction of a second to settle before applying the throttle again you will hardly notice the lack of ABS in the dry.

What certainly worked better than expected is the acceleration. The car really moves for a 4 cylinder from the 1970s, easily cracking 220kmh on the Suzuka main straight and not running out of puff even there (got to try it on longer straights to see where it tops off). Often older cars equipped with a turbo do not work nearly as well as newer machines but this one is so seamless, the gear ratios so well chosen that you will really not have flat spots anywhere - even if you drive it with an auto box. The only thing in this case is that the sixth gear engages relatively late - i.e. at speeds you may only reach on long straights.

The last thing is the behaviour in corners. Sadly the experience on long sweepers is limited after having tried out the car only on those two circuits but the left hander after the Colosseum shows good stability overall, with a lightly oversteery balance. Definitely something that would warrant the 'Advanced' rating - even a helmsman of very modest potential such as myself will easily master it.

The corner rich section at Suzuka East is again oversteer dominated and not hard to do - still I would need some more wheel time and a comparison to other cars to see how the times compare. And as mentioned, the tight turns demand early braking, and a determined throttle application to work well - probably the most challenging aspect of the car for a novice driver.

Overall the car is great fun in my opinion and it is great to have options from that era. And driving a car on comfort tires, without ABS - i.e. period correct - is certainly something everyone should really do at some point.

I hope I will get some time over the weekend to compare it to its MFT partner car and post a comparison early next week.

And once again - thanks guys for having decided on the garage - will make it much easier to find the odd play minute with a raft of interesting new cars to test (and the odd customer request) 👍 And if the only thing holding you back is finding the right cars to tune and compare, I would have lots of ideas ;)
 
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