You give me very little credit which is unfortunate because I know a lot more about a wide variety of sports then you seem to think.
You don't get credit because you have yet to state any facts about anything. Just hunches and theories that everyone has already heard. Cool you know a lot about a number of different sports. I know a lot about one sport, because I really only care about one sport. I spend a generous amount of time reading about baseball. I love the sport and there is nothing I enjoy doing more.
Up here Bonds it has been reported that Bonds has been confirmed to be taking steroids by the way so that's Vancouver media's fault then.
I don't suppose you have proof? What kind of steroid was it? Anabolic? Androgenic? Cortico? Further more how did he take it? Injection? Pills? Cream? What about the name of the steroid its self? I would name em but there are so many. But if they had proof you would be able to answer everything I said. Also if they had any proof Bonds likely would serve more then a month at his home.
I know Baseball is a game of numbers and I know players are always compared to past and present players but it's not how players should be deemed eligible for the hall or not. It's about their numbers in their present generation.
They do take into consideration numbers in their present generation. Its not really impossible to tell the difference in generation. There are certain adjustable factors that they take into consideration, factors like the park they play in and how it played that year, and the year they played in. Its more then just equations, there are charts and graphs that look at every possible aspect of the game.
It is impossible to tell if Ruth or Howard could hit a fastball better because pitching and pitchers has changed immensely over that period of time.
Pitchers today are better in every way then pitchers 80 years ago. Ruth likely wouldn't have a career OPS of 1.164 in modern day. Even in the 90's you didn't have pitchers throwing curve balls and change-ups in 3-0 counts. They also didn't pay attention to pitch counts or innings pitched. The hitting mechanics were often poor and the boundaries of the rules weren't clear. Players today are much more complicated animals, but a few of the greats (Ted Williams, Willie Mays) had more in common with players today then players of the past. There is also been many rule changes that make things easier for the hitter, such as a smaller mound and no spitball. I can really go on and on. All of these factors are accounted for and not ignored.
You can't decide today that somebody doesn't make it because a guy with similar numbers 50 years ago didn't get in. That happens a lot and it happens in hockey's hall of fame, the NFL's and MLB's. It's not right and it's not how the selection process should work.
It happens a lot? I know now about other sports but I can't think of many players that didn't get in because of what happened with a player 50 years ago. Once again I say... Show me!
If it can be proved Ruth used a cork bat over his whole career then yes he should be out... That's cheating.
There are 53 remaining bats that Ruth has been known to use during games. All of them have been corked. 21 of them labeled 30', 31', 32' rest of them don't have markings.
Here is a image of a piece of cork found in one of his bats.
Thing is a cork bat doesn't have long term effects on the body. Using it for a game today doesn't mean your still getting benefits tomorrow. With steroids that does happen. Guys have admitted to long term steroid use and no those guys shouldn't ever have a chance in hell of getting in.
Steroids don't stay in your system forever... Its just a synthetic boost. Yes there are side effects but they don't make the player any better. Most players don't get caught with the actual substance but estrogen related drugs that reduce the side effects. That's how Manny was caught. So technically he hasn't really been caught with steroids, just a substance commonly used as steroids that MLB has wrongly labeled a performance enhancing drug. While I have little doubt Manny didn't take a substance (Same goes with Bonds and many others). If you want to keep getting stronger you have to keep taking them, you don't take em once go home sit on your ass and watch Looney Toons. You take em and bust your ass for 4-5 hours. With corking you just put it in and you instantly have a much better bat speed and zero side effects.
By the way I would have had a scholarship in baseball likely coming my way if I didn't choose hockey. Hockey was ruined by a long run of concussions inevitably. Don't tell me I don't know the game as most guys I either played with or beat out for spots on teams are all draftees in the majors now. Not saying I would have been drafted as I couldn't ever hit for power but I still regret that decision to this day.
I never said you don't know the game or weren't a good player. I'm simply implying you have yet to prove anything other then he said she said.
..... I don't get your point. He looks fatter and older now. His cranium appears to have remained the same circumference. In fact he looks way better physically as a rookie.
Couldn't find the better one that was circulating a few years ago.
BTW - There's zero evidence of Ruth using any drugs to aid his performance. He chewed tobacco and drink liquor and got fat and was still the greatest to ever play the game and he did it against spitballers.
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never said Ruth used drugs. Don't put words in my mouth.
He's only ever been accused of corking bats and studies have proven the ineffectiveness of those bats. For the record, I haven't seen a shred of proof to indicate that he did, in fact, play with a corked bat.
Then you haven't looked. Babe Ruth was notorious of not following the rules... And was even open about it.
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and I don't believe he has ever failed a test either has he?
Did you seriously just write that?
and I don't believe he has ever failed a test either has he? It is possible to get bigger naturally but it takes a lot more work.
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