Microsoft Confirms Project Scarlett: 4x More Powerful than Xbox One X, Releases Holiday 2020
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1280x1080 is GT5's resolution. As for framerate....
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-gran-turismo-5-tech-analysis?page=3
This is off topic however. Companies will always state the highest possible resolution imo, but this has nothing to do with what resolution a game will be rendered in.
Yes, both PS5 and Scarlett will support 8K. But everyone hopeing for one let alone a few native 8K games is setting himself up for disappointment. There are not enough 8K TV out yet and we haven't even got a huge library of native 4K games yet.
1280x1080 is GT5's resolution. As for framerate....
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-gran-turismo-5-tech-analysis?page=3
This is off topic however. Companies will always state the highest possible resolution imo, but this has nothing to do with what resolution a game will be rendered in.
Yes, both PS5 and Scarlett will support 8K. But everyone hopeing for one let alone a few native 8K games is setting himself up for disappointment. There are not enough 8K TV out yet and we haven't even got a huge library of native 4K games yet.
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Gt5 will run at native 1080p when forced to on a ps3 tool. You can go to settings on ps3 and force games to run full 1920?x1080p and choose the framerate, which i choose 60fps. The game runs fine. And if it dips below 60fps the screen will go black. Then again a ps3 tool has double the ram and i think (not sure) it has a little more under the hood on the gpu. Games like god of war 3 and gt5 run native 1080p on the tool but not on the consumer model. I never tried gt6 on my work unit
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Imagine if that were the case on a consumer-level PS3 playing GT5. You'd almost always be driving blind...
Fun apples-to-oranges comparison, though, I guess.
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I don't think we'll see an 8K/120fps game on the next generation of consoles. We know they're capable of some impressive numbers thanks to optimization (4K/60fps on XB1X in FM7 being an example), but that's a huge bar to jump. I actually question how many true 8K games we'll see at any frame rate.
My guess is that nearly everything will be 4K, either up-res'd or native. We'll still see a fair amount of 30fps titles (boo!) but 60fps will hopefully start becoming more common. I'm not sure how many 120fps games we can really expect: it's odd that MS would even focus on that since it seems it's abandoned VR.
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I work in the industry and i can tell you straight up, microsoft has not abandoned VR. We are still in the early stages of VR. On console and on pc. Yea we got nearly 4k Oculus. But believe me when i say, we are still in the very early stages of VR and in my opinion, console VR was started too early but I do love the PSVR
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X is good for playing Doom 4k native. And it does have an X patch for Fallout 3 and Skyrim. Project cars 2 runs alot better on it in my opinion, not sure what DF had to say about it though. If your playing 4k and want 60fps for multiplats its a must. But if you are casual gamer on 1080p still or dont care for native 4k over sony 1800p then you shouldnt waste your money on it if you aint gunna use it as much as most people. I also play my Pro more, HZD and GOW. But Gtsport is one of the best looking racing games ive ever seen in 4k (or whatever it achieves)
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You have a devkit of a ps3 and even better, you also played Halo Infinite already on Scarlett?
No but based off what was shown on ps4 last year compared to what was shown on Scarlett, Ps4 games still looks better then MS’s first shown Scarlett game. And with a Holiday 2020 release date, with my best educated guess. Halo is not going to look any better at release, just no way in that little time on Project Xcloud
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343 made a bad decision with this demo, because the scenery wasn't specular. Last year we saw better footage imo.
https://content.halocdn.com/media/D...entrings-a48356a9357749df8a6ec5df9d57e895.png
Still, the real time 60FPS footage did show us improvements in lightning, polygon count (every rounded objects are perfectly round), textures and the insane image quality. I've never seen a game on console this clean and sharp and this is an leap over something like Days Gone.
Add to that the native 4K resolution, 60FPS target and we have a demo that's not possible to run on current gen hardware imo.
What has xCloud to do with any of this?
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Xcloud is the platform for Xbox next gen. All the games are made on the base unit (Anaconda, as we are told) and then built up to run as good as it can on Scarlett. Easier to add more to a more powerful unit then it is to take things away to run on anaconda. With as much work that is still probably needed for all their systems (Xcloud platform) and with 18 months or so till release, 12 months in reality to improve and continue working on the game. Its not going to look any better, then again halo isnt about its looks
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Actually there were probably more native 1080p games on PS3 early in its life cycle than later. Of course graphics got a lot better, but early on, when dev's were still working with what were essentially PS2 game engines, it was much easier to get 1080p. Wipeout HD and Ridge Racer 7 are the best examples.
Not nearly as much of a waste as 120 fps would be. Even ignoring what TV's are on the market. Above 60 fps is completely unnecessary. 8k is as well but not as much of a pipe dream on console or a waste as 120 fps is.
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I disagree. Most objects are so far away from your viewpoint in a racing game that it really won't be as much of a game changer unless you use cockpit view. Which I do personally, but even then, I don't look at the cockpit much while racing but while in an FPS for example, I'm constantly looking at the type of scenes and objects that benefit from realistic lighting.
Ray tracing will make a huge difference to day to night cycles though. In most games, there's a distinct reduction in lighting quality and especially shadow quality with a day to night cycle but with ray tracing, the difference shouldn't be as large. There might be none at all some day.
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120 fps is definitely worth more to me than yet more resolution.
I'll take 1440p 120 Hz full HDR thanks. Any leftover horsepower can be used to anti alias the shaders by supersampling them.
Wish I'd made the jump to high refresh earlier, such a game changer for action games, and even basic UI operations are more crisp and responsive.
I'll take 1440p 120 Hz full HDR thanks. Any leftover horsepower can be used to anti alias the shaders by supersampling them.
Wish I'd made the jump to high refresh earlier, such a game changer for action games, and even basic UI operations are more crisp and responsive.
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