Mitsubishi MR confusion

[Greycap]

As most of you probably know, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII and 3000GT can be bought in several versions, one of which is the MR.

Does anybody know the main differences between the Evo VIII original and MR or the 3000GT VR-4 and MR?

As far as I know the MR models are slightly lighter, but are there other differences?

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[Emohawk]

It's popularly said that MR stands for 'minor revision' (it's actually Mitsubishi Racing), because that's just what they do. Slightly bigger brakes, 1 or 2 more lb/ft, marginally wider powerband, etc. MR models are just a host of little tweaks done since the last years model, which Mitsubishi now wants you to pay attention to.

 

[Greycap]

Hmm, actually my 3000GT has 1 bhp less than the VR-4 and it has lower mileage... maybe it's the powerband then.

 

[ekmatt9]

...Well in my opinion, the Evo VIII MR is more "Sportier" version. It comes with like 20-30 more horsepower in real life than the Evo VIII itself.

 

[Leonidae]

I tried to google it, but all I came up with was aftermarket parts.. more aftermarket parts.. and.. you guessed it, MORE aftermarket parts. damned import tuning scene.. it's impossible to find any proper fact about any car that has been in a game like GT or nfsu or or or..

 

[KiwiBoy]

After going into my big pile of car newspaper, I finally found some about the MR.
In them, they pointed out some of the differences between the MR and the normal version.
Some of the differences are listed below:
-wider powerband
-little more torque (adjusted turbo and camshaft)
-uses Bilstien shocks
-Aluminum roof instead of steel roof
-reduced weight
-lowered centre of gravity
-lighter alloy rims
-carbon fibre spoiler (reduced 2 kg)
-lighten suspension parts

These are mostly the biggest difference between the Evo VII MR and Evo VII

 

[Slick Rick]

While were here on the GT4 section, why didnt PD put the FQ's in the game?. Their much more racier than the MR's. Saying that though, the Evo VIII MR looks a bit like and Evo VIII FQ anyway....

 

[KiwiBoy]

By the way, I forgot to included a very special item that the Evo VII MR has. It is the rear roof mounted Vortex Generator. It is like small shark fins on the rear of the roof that helps smooth out the air passing above the roof so there will be less lift.

 

[Gabkicks]

i dont remember the mr having this in gt4 for the american version. but a guy owns one near me and his has the vortex generator fin thingies on it.

 

[KiwiBoy]

i dont remember the mr having this in gt4 for the american version. but a guy owns one near me and his has the vortex generator fin thingies on it.

Somehow the game doesn't include it on the Evo VII MR. Maybe Kazunori Yamauchi forgot about it or maybe thought it was useless to include in the game. You never know...

 

[Ske]

While were here on the GT4 section, why didnt PD put the FQ's in the game?. Their much more racier than the MR's. Saying that though, the Evo VIII MR looks a bit like and Evo VIII FQ anyway....

Afaik, the FQ versions are MRs tuned by Ralliart UK with some other UK tuner companies... so they're not "official" versions. They could have been included under "Full models" in the Ralliart shop though, like the Nismo models at Nissan. I think the big point is that they seem to be made for the UK only.

The basic differences between the normal Evo and the MR are much like KiwiBoy said:
- Lightweight fixings and upper body to lower the center of gravity.
- Upgraded suspension.
- Engine is tuned for more performance at higher revs.
- Different AYC setup.
- Some minor cosmetic/aero changes to the bodykit.
- Racing seats and carbon dash.

 

[Cobra_UK]

Slightly off-topic, but I actually prefer the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII RS '03. It's a bit lighter and although it has less torque than the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04 I find it better around the track.

 

[eiriksmil]

I hate bringing this to you guys, but it's just a bit confusion around here:

...Well in my opinion, the Evo VIII MR is more "Sportier" version. It comes with like 20-30 more horsepower in real life than the Evo VIII itself.

With the UK models, you have the GSR/VIII/280 version, which has got, 280 bhp. Then you have the FQ MR models, with 300, 320 and 340 bhp, plus the MR FQ-400 version with 405 bhp. In the US, there are NO differences either in torque or power, from the VIII and RS models.

After going into my big pile of car newspaper, I finally found some about the MR.
In them, they pointed out some of the differences between the MR and the normal version.
Some of the differences are listed below:
-wider powerband
-little more torque (adjusted turbo and camshaft)
-uses Bilstien shocks
-Aluminum roof instead of steel roof
-reduced weight
-lowered centre of gravity
-lighter alloy rims
-carbon fibre spoiler (reduced 2 kg)
-lighten suspension parts

These are mostly the biggest difference between the Evo VII MR and Evo VII

Well, first of all, I guess it's not the VII we are talking about but the VII. There wasn't made any VII MR model...
Second, the VIII version (non MR) also features a carbon fibre spoiler, at least on the 03 and 04 models, but the side walls of the spoiler are painted. The aluminium roof shreds of 4 kgs of the weight, and also helps bringning the centre of gravity downwards.

i dont remember the mr having this in gt4 for the american version. but a guy owns one near me and his has the vortex generator fin thingies on it.

The MR in GT4 hasn't got the Vortex generator, because it's the Japanese, or JDM, edition of the MR. Only the US MRs' got the Vortex Generators.

Somehow the game doesn't include it on the Evo VII MR. Maybe Kazunori Yamauchi forgot about it or maybe thought it was useless to include in the game. You never know...

He didn't forget. As I said above, it's not included on the JDM versions.

 

[Gabkicks]

thx for clarifying that nice to see a new member that isnt a noob for a change. 👍

 

[jedi09]

if i'm not mistaking, in real life the mr has an electris center diff while the regular one has a mechanical one. Also the mr has wind diffurer in the back window. I guess the pd guys incorperated these into the sars somehow by making the mr handle better.

 

[Gabkicks]

did u read the post aboev mine?

 

[eiriksmil]

if i'm not mistaking, in real life the mr has an electris center diff while the regular one has a mechanical one. Also the mr has wind diffurer in the back window. I guess the pd guys incorperated these into the sars somehow by making the mr handle better.

The wind diffuser is the Vortex Generator... The Vortex generator is only to be had on the US models, which are not included in the Gran Turismo 4.

 

[-Cheezman-]

*sigh*

MR edition cars all have one thing in common, and only one, The suspension/drivetrain are the only things upgraded. Engine sees no mods at all. Thats why all MR cars are the same HP as a non-MR car. This is how it works in real life... and hopefully is how it works in this game.

As for the Vortex Generator, the Japanese Model does have it, just they released the MR then did a quick revise on it before it hit the states. So both have it, only we got the version that ONLY has it, and not the one that doesn't.

 

[eiriksmil]

*sigh*

MR edition cars all have one thing in common, and only one, The suspension/drivetrain are the only things upgraded. Engine sees no mods at all. Thats why all MR cars are the same HP as a non-MR car. This is how it works in real life... and hopefully is how it works in this game.

As for the Vortex Generator, the Japanese Model does have it, just they released the MR then did a quick revise on it before it hit the states. So both have it, only we got the version that ONLY has it, and not the one that doesn't.

Aha. I haven't seen pics of the JDM cars since the launch, so I wouldn't know about that. By the way, it's not only suspension/brivetrain upgrades, but also some weight loosing... You could say it's more... focused, I guess.

 

[-Cheezman-]

Sure that works too.

"improve the car, not by engine, but by everything else" I guess maybe that's Mitsubishi's idea on tuning? LOL

Oh and thanks for the weight correction, totally forgot about that.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

The main difference between an EVO VIII and an EVO VIII MR is that the MR has 400 BHP! Also, it's been spiced up with carbon fiber so it's enormous lighter then the EVO VIII, therefor the MR handles amazing.

Seen it on Top Gear, EVO VIII MR vs. Murcialago

 

[jamaican]

The main difference between an EVO VIII and an EVO VIII MR is that the MR has 400 BHP! Also, it's been spiced up with carbon fiber so it's enormous lighter then the EVO VIII, therefor the MR handles amazing.

Seen it on Top Gear, EVO VIII MR vs. Murcialago

i think you mean the evo FQ400 which isn't in the game. there are three versions that i'm aware of:
evo MR (which is in the game, with about 300hp)
evo MR FQ320 (not in game, has about 320hp though)
evo MR FQ400 (the one you were talking about; not in the game. has about 400hp great video with the lambo)

Slightly off-topic, but I actually prefer the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII RS '03. It's a bit lighter and although it has less torque than the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04 I find it better around the track.

me too!! i have a white one... and a white evo VI RS

 

[-Cheezman-]

Here is the FQ400 (Current Japan EVO VIII)
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/05/lancerfq40005_05.jpg

The one we (United States) have is the above, only we have a Stock Evo VIII engine set up, with everything else from the FQ400.

 

[eiriksmil]

Here is the FQ400 (Current Japan EVO VIII)
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/05/lancerfq40005_05.jpg

The one we (United States) have is the above, only we have a Stock Evo VIII engine set up, with everything else from the FQ400.

No, no, no, you've got it wrong... Again.. We have the UK spec cars, and the JDM spec cars. The JDM spec MR has got between 280 and 300 bhp, no official figures, but it's NOT 400 bhp.
The UK models are ranged in 4 MRs:
FQ MR:
300
320
340
400

The 400 was a UK-only special edition model, and neither Japan nor the US has got it. This car was made in 50 examples and not all are sold out yet, costing £47.000.
All the US models has got 280 bhp, all the JDM versions has got 280 bhp, but the UK models has got between 260 and 400 bhp!

The main difference between an EVO VIII and an EVO VIII MR is that the MR has 400 BHP! Also, it's been spiced up with carbon fiber so it's enormous lighter then the EVO VIII, therefor the MR handles amazing.

Seen it on Top Gear, EVO VIII MR vs. Murcialago

The MR is only 10 kgs lighter than the VIII, you Nordmann! Only the FQ-400 has got some CF, and only a bit, like the lip. Ellers er jo Top Gear et bra program.