Most baddest handling car

[Joey]

Now, wait...I'm having some trouble with this. You say that the GT90 doesn't suck, since you (bla) can tune it. You say the RX-7 GT-C does suck because you (bla) can't tune it. Ever consider that, oh, I don't know, maybe you're not the best tuner the universe has ever known? Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean other people can't. As for the car and not the idea, that RX-7 can't corner after you give it some power. If you don't but engine or turbo upgrades, it's fine.

 

[bla]

A lot of people know the gt90 to be a great car. The behaviour of the car is safer and more agile during a corner than the gt-c. No I´m not a master tunner, in fact I don´t mess much with car´s settings only when cars really need work like the stability case of the gt90. The gt-c... I´ve messed with with only to find out that cornering wasn´t in his blood. Maybe it´s just me. Never heard about great times with the car though.
That s2000 was low HP. I´ve seen people pulling 1:17xxx in laguna seca with cars under 345HP´s. Show me times...

 

[hsrdragger]

a little off the subject...
........but if someone started SPAMMING right now........I think they would be killed by "bla, Joey, and My Crotch"

 

[Joey]

The Honda S2000 has just about the lowest center of gravity ever concieved by the automakers of planet Earth. That's why it's so blinding fast.

 

[bla]

It´s a game. It´s autoprogrammers of planet polyphony. Nevertheless good choice of words: "blinding fast". Something the gt-c isn´t. There are a ton of cars with similar HPs that can get similar lap times. Like I said the car isn´t so hot, don´t really know why that´s so hard to accept.


Anyway other bad handling cars include the aston martins especially the v8. Stability isn´t so much of a problem but the incapability to take a corner at acceptable speed is.

 

[Joey]

The autoprogrammers of planet Polyphony autoprogrammed, as accurately as they could, after machines automakers of planet Earth built.

 

[craig]

thats easy for you to say

 

[Mike Rotch]

oh, blah bla. I dont recall ever comparing the gt-c to a s2000. I was comparing it to the A-spec (whose handling foibles I have since amended). I dont deny that the s2000 is fast, and around LG, i probably couldnt beat it. It is the old case of horses for courses. Just like a rs200 could trash a Jecs around motorland.

Of course, the only course for the GT-90, (and this should please bla...), FOR ME, is the course leading to the scrap heap.


If you wanna talk "great cars", as you always put it, lets talk TVR


PS thnx Joey for highlighting so succinctly my point about Bla being a hypocrate..

 

[bla]

Hypocrate?
Look the only thing I´ve offended here was a car and rightfully so.
Compare it to all you want. Here is a good start: the best rx7 in the mazda lineup can beat the gt-c in ANY track and has less HP. Magic?... Cheats? No no actually it´s called cornering efficiency. You want to keep living the dream? What do I care?

 

[Pupik]

So I'm not nuts, the GT-C doesn't do anything for me; it feels slow, has boggy handling, it's just a work in progress for me. But it's LM cousin (blue rotor special) is one of the nicest-handling cars in the game, I can't quite figure that one out.

The GT90; most hate it, but I lucked into a good setup with a little a patience and know-how; a mix of GT40, Elise GT1, and NSX GT helped out.

I don't care much for the GT-C; because I've done better with a '96 A-spec with about 190hp less. Horses for courses, indeed.

 

[tvroverlord]

Originally posted by Mike Rotch


If you wanna talk "great cars", as you always put it, lets talk TVR

You, my friend, are a genius...


As far as RX-7's go we're ONLY discussing the gt-c...correct? cause the LM is a close personal friend of mine and i wouldnt want to have to smack anybody for crtitisizing it's handling capacities...

 

[tvroverlord]

Originally posted by bla
Out of curiosity what was the faster corner you did in him?

You're all gonna hate me for this, but I havent played this game in forever (GT3 came out and i let my friend borrow gt2...its long gone now...) but in my day I was really good..hahaha if you ask me...I remember that the TVR speed 12 made it around the track faster than anything..only time i can even remotely remeber was 56 sec around red roc...i may have done it faster, but i remember hitting solidly in the 56's...is this considered slow these days? The lotus esprit gt one was bad ass too...similar "problems" as the speed 12 but thats what makes these so much fun to drive

 

[Mike Rotch]

yip, everbody was wailing on everybody else about the gt-c, not the LM.

 

[bla]

Hey Mike listen... I apologize
I still believe the gt-c is cheesy I still believe that sometimes people criticize cars they simply don´t understand but I also believe I was a bit rude and radical so I apologize... to you and any other person I migh have offended.
Cool?

As for the gt-c LM he is one of the best cars in gt2. Sometimes I get a mixture of grip with a slight drift in the slower corners that is really cool to control.

 

[Mike Rotch]

Its all good. Too be honest I was also a bit fly-off-the-handle-ish, because jumping from a really good handling car into the gt-c, the difference can def be felt. Maybe if i spent more time working on the gt90, i could actually get some good times going. Ignore my blah comment, i wuz just being a

Smokes, if you can do a 1:17xxx at laguna in a s2000, i need to go to licences again cos i am well off the pace of that

Anyways, it was big of you to say what you said first, so kudos to bla 👍 👍

 

[bla]

Actually that 1:17xxx was someone else´s time, mine was 1:19xxx. Laguna seca isn´t even a track I play around much but the car was really really good.

 

[tvroverlord]

oops... messed up my quotes up there.....fixed

 

[tvroverlord]

Originally posted by bla

As for the gt-c LM he is one of the best cars in gt2. Sometimes I get a mixture of grip with a slight drift in the slower corners that is really cool to control.

The LM is a girl, silly

SHE is quite displeaed with you...picking on her cousin...mistaking her sexuality..what next

 

[jeffgoddin]

Just had to say, the Tuscan Speed 6 stock is amazingly poor at turning. Goes in a straight line great, brakes fine, not much weight and normal tires about what you'd expect, but for similar weight cars with about the same power I find cornering to be much faster and easier.

I'm sure it's a great car tuned, but it's definitely among the worst untuned, and that includes the Viper. (just finishing the manufacturer's events with minimal tuning, closest setup to AI)

 

[Mr. CoolFiat]

Just had to say, the Tuscan Speed 6 stock is amazingly poor at turning. Goes in a straight line great, brakes fine, not much weight and normal tires about what you'd expect, but for similar weight cars with about the same power I find cornering to be much faster and easier.

I'm sure it's a great car tuned, but it's definitely among the worst untuned, and that includes the Viper. (just finishing the manufacturer's events with minimal tuning, closest setup to AI)

Dude, you just revived a 7 year old thread, you 🤬... DO NOT REVIVE OLD THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!! 👎👎👎

 

[jeffgoddin]

Dude, you just revived a 7 year old thread, you 🤬... DO NOT REVIVE OLD THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!! 👎👎👎

Ouch. Sorry. Just don't like to make a new thread on an existing subject... guess this one was pushing it...

 

[niky]

Dude, you just revived a 7 year old thread, you 🤬... DO NOT REVIVE OLD THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!! 👎👎👎

It's infinitely better than calling someone a mute-donkey love-child, now, isn't it?

We actually encourage users to search for similar topics before creating a new one, and adding whatever they want to add to those topics instead of creating a new, redundant one.

We also encourage users to be polite and civil to each other.

One of you listened to our advice, another didn't. Guess which one did?

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Ouch. Sorry. Just don't like to make a new thread on an existing subject... guess this one was pushing it...

Don't listen to Mr Fiat. Reviving threads is totally fine if you post something on topic, as the mod said, it's better than starting a new topic if some thread already exists. The only exception is if somebody asks a question 8 years ago, and somebody else answers 8 years later, especially if the question has already been answered.

I'm glad you revived this thread, it's a fun read.

 

[Mr. CoolFiat]

Don't listen to Mr Fiat. Reviving threads is totally fine if you post something on topic, as the mod said, it's better than starting a new topic if some thread already exists. The only exception is if somebody asks a question 8 years ago, and somebody else answers 8 years later, especially if the question has already been answered.

I'm glad you revived this thread, it's a fun read.

Yes, it's my fault. I am sorry JeffGoddin, now that I understand what it means that I have said, I feel very sorry. I usually get out of hand at early hours of the morning. Very sorry JeffGodin.. please forgive me dude.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Yes, it's my fault. I am sorry JeffGoddin, now that I understand what it means that I have said, I feel very sorry. I usually get out of hand at early hours of the morning. Very sorry JeffGodin.. please forgive me dude.

Hey it's not a problem. People get confused by the rules sometimes.

 

[Mr. CoolFiat]

Hey it's not a problem. People get confused by the rules sometimes.

You're more forgiving than a Go-Kart on Tokyo Bay Kart Track!

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I'm going to say the baddest-handling are some of America's older muscle. GTO, Charger, Roadrunner, etc. Shelby Cobra, too.

The Ford GT90 and Speed 12 aren't really bad handling if the driver knows how to tune, the problem is most people don't know what to do (In this thread especially). Both of these cars have way too much power for their own good, but they're not impossible. I won several races in GT90...All Stars material, for instance.

Several weaker TVRs (Griffiths especially) are just tempermental. Again if the driver knows what to do, and knows when to nail that throttle (and brake, etc) these cars will behave. It's just that most people probably just go full-force on those brakes, throttle, and steering motions.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

I have this odd ability to predict how a car will behave just by looking at their shape and stats, and 90% of the time they're pretty close. For example, I always expect a muscle car to handle badly, but that doesn't make it have bad handling in my eye. It's just the way they are. For me, a car have 'bad' handling if their actual handling is poorer than what I expect. A weird way to judge, but that's how I see it lol.

In that respect, I can't remember a single car that had me tearing my hair in GT1 & 2. Most can be cured by adapting your driving style or tuning, and none are really 'stubborn'. Some FFs drive me nuts with their understeer, but that's because I hate understeer in general. Small MRs are also spin-machines on banking (think Elise, Tommy ZZ-S, etc), but I think this effect is too exaggerated. Just like how unstable the NSX is in earlier games.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Oh man...totally forgot about the Chrysler Phaeton! That's one that definitely deserves the baddest-handling medal!

It would have me tearing my hair out if I took it seriously. But I was wise enough to realize (back in the day) not to take it seriously.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

The Phaeton is one mammoth boat. Once you get used to the size and turning radius it's not so bad though. On a circuit with lots of straights it can be quite competitive. Just remember to adjust your lines to focus on the exit.