Mustang Cobra R
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- Somebodyshootme
wow a supercharger. . . didn't the last one have one, and oh yeah, it needs a supercharger to match a NA Corvette. 
put a supercharger on the Corvette and see what happens. Oh Yeah, check out the 2003 SVT. . . Much better then that Riced out Mustang.
put a supercharger on the Corvette and see what happens. Oh Yeah, check out the 2003 SVT. . . Much better then that Riced out Mustang. 
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- old-guy64
Okay Miata let's take those in order...Originally posted by miata13B
wow a supercharger. . . didn't the last one have one, and oh yeah, it needs a supercharger to match a NA Corvette.
1. A $30,000 Supercharged Mustang is still $20,000 less dear than a Vette. It's also cheaper to insure, cheaper to buy tires for, etc. and it seats four, albeit the 2 in the back have to be really good friends. Plus, a Chevy's direct competition for the Mustang is not the Vette, it's the Camaro. Oops, that was selling so poorly, Chevy phased it out.
2. If you go the route of super-charging a Vette and having it done as a "professional package" ala Lingenfelter. And because you intend to drive this beast, you'll want the package done professionally, because they will address the transmission and suspension. You will indeed have a smoking 'Vette. But, now you've spent enough money to buy a Viper. Or an M5, or a "Low end" Porsche.
3. The 2000 Focus is cool. But Start the Focus up next to the 'Stang. Which one has the cooler exhaust note?
I am not dissin' you. I'm playing devil's advocate. I also was lucky enough to have an old man that liked cars. We had a '66 Mustang back in the late '70's. What a cool car!
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Originally posted by Gil
Okay Miata let's take those in order...
1. A $30,000 Supercharged Mustang is still $20,000 less dear than a Vette. It's also cheaper to insure, cheaper to buy tires for, etc. and it seats four, albeit the 2 in the back have to be really good friends. Plus, a Chevy's direct competition for the Mustang is not the Vette, it's the Camaro. Oops, that was selling so poorly, Chevy phased it out.
2. If you go the route of super-charging a Vette and having it done as a "professional package" ala Lingenfelter. And because you intend to drive this beast, you'll want the package done professionally, because they will address the transmission and suspension. You will indeed have a smoking 'Vette. But, now you've spent enough money to buy a Viper. Or an M5, or a "Low end" Porsche.
3. The 2000 Focus is cool. But Start the Focus up next to the 'Stang. Which one has the cooler exhaust note?
I am not dissin' you. I'm playing devil's advocate. I also was lucky enough to have an old man that liked cars. We had a '66 Mustang back in the late '70's. What a cool car!
1. Actually Gil, Normally you are right on target with everthing, but this time I have to disagree with you. The picture above is the 2000 Cobra type R, the riced out version of the mustang and it went for $54,995. Now at that price range, The Camrao SS with the extra money spent on mods would destroy the Cobra. But yes the Camaro is phased out. So at that price range, The Vette would be its direct competition at that point.
2. Indeed you would have to pay a lump sum to get that corvette running properly with a supercharger. And you are correct with needing it professionally done. But there are those die-hard Chevy fans out there that would prefer a vette over a Viper, Porsche or bimmer. Plus with the performance package, the vette will easily keep up with that pack.
3. I don't know where you got the Focus from, please explain. . . a 66 stang now is a phat car. Last night my roommate came home with a Chevelle, not sure the year, but gorgeous car. He had to drop his 80 Z28 off at his parents because the engine is miss timed and we checked all the routine things to fix it, but no avail. His pop's was a chevy master mechanic for 35 to 40 years. They also got two race cars one 68 camaro and 0ne 69 chevelle, not the one from last night.
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My bad, When you said 2003 SVT, I naturally thought Focus. *I'm so embarrased*.
As far as 55,000 on a Mustang. That is flat ridiculous. Ford must have a Cranial-rectal fusion on that one.
SO I again have to say you're right. *ouch*
Again, My Bad.
Of course, you have given me an idea for a Spot Race.
As far as 55,000 on a Mustang. That is flat ridiculous. Ford must have a Cranial-rectal fusion on that one.
SO I again have to say you're right. *ouch*
Again, My Bad.
Of course, you have given me an idea for a Spot Race.
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no, there is "no bad" here. Actually I did not clearify myself and that is my mistake Gil. But if you do research for the Mustang Cobra R find the first model of it that came out and you'll see the ridiculous price tag on the thing. Now the 2003 SVT Cobra is a different story. 707. As for the Focus, it is a good car, the first thing I would do to it thought would change the long gears out to shorter ones. It needs it bad.
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well they only made the Cobra R for 2 productions years...so i guess its a collectors item kinda price. like the t-bird i guess. i saw a 2003 Cobra the other day. looks clean. they come with flush mounted trunk spoiler, very sneaky badging, and a hood you can really only see if you are looking down at it. 390hp for 35,000? deffinatly a good deal. but it's still a mustang...and the mustang chassis is far outdated. it just can't keep up with the new chassis running around these days.
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also...the 2003 Cobra may cost less than the vette, but even with 390hp it isn't as fast as the vette. The vette only has 350hp(all motor) and a lighter body. To me a vette is much more appealing from a racecar point of view, while the rustang is just sort of a "well at least i didn't spend as much money as you" sort of thing.
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BTW. I told someone earlier today, I think it was Hooligan, about a company in Georgia that is selling complete '00 Mustang Cobra powerplants, with all accessories and Hardware for $6,000. They had fifty. I don't know how many they have now.
But imagine a pristine '66 Mustang notchback with this form of 'motorvation'.
And when I say complete, I mean with tranny, exhaust, clutch, computer, air box, etc.
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hmmm, very intrguing, if I had a stang I wouldbe looking into that curretnly, but I have an Iroc so maybe not. Actually, hmm what about a Datsun with a Stang powerplant. . . possible yes, work, indeed, V8 samll car - tight fit, loads of funOriginally posted by Gil
BTW. I told someone earlier today, I think it was Hooligan, about a company in Georgia that is selling complete '00 Mustang Cobra powerplants, with all accessories and Hardware for $6,000. They had fifty. I don't know how many they have now.
But imagine a pristine '66 Mustang notchback with this form of 'motorvation'.
And when I say complete, I mean with tranny, exhaust, clutch, computer, air box, etc.
.66 stang
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- old-guy64
Cobraking,
We are not trying to jack the thread.
On topic.
I love Mustangs, always have, even the Mustang II.
The Cobra is a great machine, that costs way too much money. There are versions that are nearly as good for just over half the freight.
Add in the extra cash and you have a car that's prolly better.
I do love that aggressive look though.
We are not trying to jack the thread.
On topic.
I love Mustangs, always have, even the Mustang II.
The Cobra is a great machine, that costs way too much money. There are versions that are nearly as good for just over half the freight.
Add in the extra cash and you have a car that's prolly better.
I do love that aggressive look though.
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I dunno, the stang looks a little too riced with the body kit and wing. If the wing had a little more purpose on the stang I would say it is ok, but it really doesn't. At least in the states with the speed limits and everything. The only time that wing would have effect is going over 100mph.
Having perused this thread, I am no longer sure which Mustang is the topic of discussion. So, being the wordy sod I am, I'll give my opinion on both.
I really like the 2003 Cobra. Supercharged or not, F-body or not, this car is what a Mustang should be. All other '03's are hardly up to the task. Something magical happens when Fords go under the SVT surgical knife. Take the F-150 Lightning: No normal F-150 can do what the Lightining does. The looks are okay; standard Mustang. But the mechanicals are...well, finally worthy.
The 2000 Cobra R is something I would have liked to own. Despite really liking the '03 Cobra, I like my Mustangs n/a. The sound on this thing was unusual for a Ford, even bording on a TVR's banshee wail. I heard it was quite a performer, maybe not so much in a straight line compared to the '03, but a real hard drive.
Good Mustangs have been hard to come by since 1975, but I firmly believe that these two are the best (well, since the Shelby's).
I really like the 2003 Cobra. Supercharged or not, F-body or not, this car is what a Mustang should be. All other '03's are hardly up to the task. Something magical happens when Fords go under the SVT surgical knife. Take the F-150 Lightning: No normal F-150 can do what the Lightining does. The looks are okay; standard Mustang. But the mechanicals are...well, finally worthy.
The 2000 Cobra R is something I would have liked to own. Despite really liking the '03 Cobra, I like my Mustangs n/a. The sound on this thing was unusual for a Ford, even bording on a TVR's banshee wail. I heard it was quite a performer, maybe not so much in a straight line compared to the '03, but a real hard drive.
Good Mustangs have been hard to come by since 1975, but I firmly believe that these two are the best (well, since the Shelby's).
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- old-guy64
Didn't the Mustang II come out in 1974?
It just wasn't the cool machine that the earlier stangs were.
As far as the Fox bodied 'Stang being dated, please remember that under the sheet metal, little has changed since 1978. Independent Rear Suspension should have come along in the Mustang 10 Years ago. If Chevy can put an IRS in the Corvette since 1963, Ford should have come thru with one by 1993
Still the Mustang has done its best to keep up. If you check the old write ups you'll find lap times that were close enough, compared to the Camaro, That a driver change could have mad the difference.
I may never be lucky enough to have another 'Stang come to live with me. But, I will continue to really like them. (Unless they make them as unattractive as the last generation of Camaros.)
It just wasn't the cool machine that the earlier stangs were.
As far as the Fox bodied 'Stang being dated, please remember that under the sheet metal, little has changed since 1978. Independent Rear Suspension should have come along in the Mustang 10 Years ago. If Chevy can put an IRS in the Corvette since 1963, Ford should have come thru with one by 1993
Still the Mustang has done its best to keep up. If you check the old write ups you'll find lap times that were close enough, compared to the Camaro, That a driver change could have mad the difference.
I may never be lucky enough to have another 'Stang come to live with me. But, I will continue to really like them. (Unless they make them as unattractive as the last generation of Camaros.)
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The picture is a 2000 Mustang Cobra R....the one from GT3. It has a 5.4 NA 385hp engine. They made 300 of them I believe. Very exclusive and never meant to be common and easily attainable. The 2003 cobra has a 4.6 supercharged engine that makes 390 hp. Both are quite nice cars, however, I would never buy the 03 cobra due to the annoying (and very loud) whine of the supercharger.
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I really could care less what engine Ford puts in the Mustang. It will never be a good car unless they totally remake that hunk of ****
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Ford Sucks, and so does the Mustang. The Only ford I will like is the GT-40.
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I know it is a race car, but for common purposes, basically anyone that owns one for a daily driver is never going to get the use outta the wing. I think it is rather too behemoth looking. . . but for racing purposes it serves the purpose. The thing that catchs me about it that I don't like is that it makes the mustang look like some import civic that has an useless wing on the rear that is gargantuan.
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It 'looks' like a useless rear wing, when in fact, it is not. Most civics that have useless rear wings, arent making 385hp stock. That being said, its still ugly.
Originally posted by Gil
My bad, When you said 2003 SVT, I naturally thought Focus. *I'm so embarrased*.
As far as 55,000 on a Mustang. That is flat ridiculous. Ford must have a Cranial-rectal fusion on that one.
SO I again have to say you're right. *ouch*
Again, My Bad.
Of course, you have given me an idea for a Spot Race.
i saw a mustang in downtown vancouver, in downtown we see
porsche carrera( 2003 ) aston martin vanquishes, alot of vipers,
and once i saw a red mustang cobra r i saw it while climbing the
steps outside the 2003 pacific light truck and car show.
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Speaking of atrocious wings, this morning I saw another Iroc, this one was black, but pretty much like mine - It had a Eclipse style wing on the back of it. Down right disgusting and disgrace to chevy owners and lovers. . . I pulled up next to him and yelled nice car. . . But the wing has gotz to go.
