Accolades from the community, from fansites around the world. The people at the top of the leaderboards in TT's aren't running 5 or 10 laps they are running dozens, sometimes hundreds of laps. To do so without ABS would be legendary in the TT portion of the community. Most people think running without ABS is very difficult, if someone won a TT without ABS they'd be a virtual racing hero.
I'm pretty sure beau has been doing well in TTs without it. Last night before I went to bed, he was still leading with abs0 in the lotus TT. A lot of guys in the top 50 are using abs0.
I use abs1 with certain cars, because their are no FFB pedals yet, so it is still pretty unrealistic, even if you mod your pedal. All it is, is one less aid...sort of. ABS0 seems slower to me. I set my brake pressure to never lock anyways and it is clear that abs0 has more linear braking. ABS1 is still too sensitive and activates too easily. It may provide the ability to be more consistent, but it definitely slows you down. It is much more noticeable with very fast cars, where you are entering some braking zones at 180mph+. Abs1 seems to activate when the tires get hot towards the end of braking zones for me.
If I had better pedals, I would do abs0 with everything, but it just isnt practical or realistic me. Brake pedals in a car without abs have a distinct feeling when you are on the limit and most notably when you lock up. I would like to see someone figure out a signal to send from the FFB at the wheel a pedal. Not sure if that is possible or if the signals/ffb commands are split or one signal going into the circuit boards on the wheels.
I've been thinking about making a hydraulic pedal setup out of a bunch of old kart and car parts in the basement. I would be all over abs0 with every car in that case as well. I suppose it would somewhat be doing what I want anyways with a FFB.
Even still, you wouldn't feel brake fade either. That is my main issue with abs0. You can't feel fade or lock, which is incredibly unrealistic and makes things unpredictable. You end up relying on sound and a poor lock up simulation of ffb in the wheel. It just goes limp. It is hard for me to decide which is more unrealistic in gf6: 1 or 0.
Idk, I guess fade and total lack of predictability are my biggest issues with braking in gt6, which is why I just say screw it and use abs1 with some cars and tracks where I will be flying into braking zones.
Not much bothers me in gt6 other than issues pertaining to brakes. I expect faults to an extent. IRL, I prefer no ABS. My e36 doesn't have it after I did a motor swap and my first e46 didn't have it either...well, it was removed. I would probably classify my current tires as sport hards on my e36. I find it easier to recover from lockup IRL with most cars I driven hard without abs as well.
Even with abs1, you can't brake much more, if any, mid turn or upon entry. So, there really isn't much of an advantage, other than consistency. Sorry for the long winded post. It is just something that has disappointed me from the beginning. The darn fade and predictability. I've never heard of any sort of brake fade or temp modelling in gt6. Not sure if it described to be combatted by the "racing" brake kits, but it definitely isn't, unfortunately
I'm sure they will work on tire temps (real temps, not one temp for the whole tire) and brake fade for gt7. ...The discs and pads cooking with gasses not being able to escape between the two, fluid overheating/boiling, etc. But yeah. If all that was modelled, even if it wasn't perfect, it would be worthwhile to me to use abs0 across the board.
Not saying anyone in this thread files into said sort of player category, but it seems that a lot of people use abs0, so they can say that they do. I also see a LOT of people claim they don't use abs on here...then I either see them online playing WITH abs/I just don't see many online playing without it in general.
There are drivers who are very, very fast with both abs0 and abs1...that's not because of abs. They're great drivers anyways and in real life as well. The people at the top of TT leaderboards for example. Most are using abs, but they are still incredible drivers. With or without ABS. There is no doubt about that. I don't mind admitting that I use abs1 often, given my reasoning, which I think are fair points/excuses IMO.
) and probably add some lap times real vs virtual to prove my point.
Need to also make sure the specs are according to real life, weight + distribution, alignment, spring rate, power and gearing.
