My S14 240SX
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Are they yours?
Either way, nice. Theres a White S14 down the block from me, think he'll sell it?
Either way, nice. Theres a White S14 down the block from me, think he'll sell it?
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I'm jealous, I want a 240 SO BAD!!!! but I want an S13......anyway I envy you and if I were you I would get the Kouki stuff for it (It makes it look mean 
) so do you Auto X it?
) so do you Auto X it?
Why get an S13? The S14 is an overall better car. Chassis is stiffer, newer so the bushings are less likely to be bad. No HICAs issue. The only thing is that the S14 is slightly heavier stock.
Kouki conversion is too expensive for me now, it's $2K+ for the parts, peices, and install. If I was to go get it, I would get the VERTEX kit instead, and get only the pieces necessary. However, with aero, I would either need to get spacers or new wheels, because the wheels I'm running aren't fully flush.
This all adds up to a LOT of money, over 1/3 of what I paid for the car (Less than 1/3 of what the car is worth now though)
Looks department isn't too big of a deal for me right now, it's the suspension bits that are important.
I plan to Auto X it after a few more suspension mods. The previous owner AutoXed the car once.
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Nice looking car man. In the picture of it parked with a bunch of other similar-performance sports cars: are those cars your friends' cars?
GT4SuperNoob
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Very nice
but i dont like S14s i prefer the S13s
but the best is your old mazda!!
its so cool
you could of put a redsuns sticker on it and pretend to be that guy from initail D
but i dont like S14s i prefer the S13s
but the best is your old mazda!!
its so cool
you could of put a redsuns sticker on it and pretend to be that guy from initail D
Race Idiot
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Why get an S13? The S14 is an overall better car. Chassis is stiffer, newer so the bushings are less likely to be bad. No HICAs issue. The only thing is that the S14 is slightly heavier stock.
Kouki conversion is too expensive for me now, it's $2K+ for the parts, peices, and install. If I was to go get it, I would get the VERTEX kit instead, and get only the pieces necessary. However, with aero, I would either need to get spacers or new wheels, because the wheels I'm running aren't fully flush.
This all adds up to a LOT of money, over 1/3 of what I paid for the car (Less than 1/3 of what the car is worth now though)
Looks department isn't too big of a deal for me right now, it's the suspension bits that are important.
I plan to Auto X it after a few more suspension mods. The previous owner AutoXed the car once.
Well I'm to fond of the looks of the S14, I mean I wouldn't turn one down if someone wanted to sell it to me one for as much as an S13 and hell an S14 would be a better car for what I want to do but I just don't like the way it looks (tail lights, steering wheel, the trunk is to long, blah,blah,blah) also I have a friend that has an S13 with an SR20DET and I fell in love with it and that was about a year ago and then I didn't S*IT about 240's (I didn't even know that there was an S14 and S15). The one thing that I LOVE about the S14 is with the Kouki front end is that it makes it look like an S15 IMO.
Well first off a KA24DE is the engine that Nissan put in the 240s in the US and before that it was the KA24E (single over head cam engine) both suck and some people chose to turbo it and then call it a KA24DET while others chose to put the SR20DET. If you want more info go HERE
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I personally like Zenki S14's,very rare to see,most people convert to kouki front,but it's too much common i like it like this,reminds on Kei Office white S13,and more prettyer beacuse there is no wing,i like the booty of the S14 without wing,simply and pretty nice line.As for the FC,i also like that one,i'm a big fan of FC.
Yes, those are my coworkers cars. We had a small photoshoot 2 years ago when I had my RX7 TII. My coworker's EVO8 puts 340whp now. It's the 2nd quickest car I've been in.
The TII was good before it started leaking oil...and coolant...and etc...
It was a beautiful car though.
My S14 is a base model (Lightest) but I have all of the SE model parts installed (except for 5lug wheels) so essentially, my car is a lightened version of the SE.
I'm running on Tein HE drift-spec coilovers. I have various other suspension mods.
SR20DET and all JDM engines are highly illegal in California, and there has been a HUGE HUGE crackdown on cops for any engine swaps.
Diablomonkey, no offense, you're living a 240SX owner's dream (Including myself) 2 years ago. I had the same thought pattern almost EXACTLY as you 2 years ago.
S15 conversions look TERRIBLE unless you throw in TONS and TONS of money into it. S13s handle average, and need a LOT of repairs to get it up to perfect running condition.
When you don't own a car, there is a lot of "imaginary mods" to do. I had it as well 2 years ago. When you really own the car, you realize how expensive it is to modify, maintain, and drive your car.
SR20 engines aren't that great. It's hard to find a decent one, and to tune it properly, it takes a lot of time, blood, sweat, and tears. And they're not that great. LS1 swaps are insanely better. My friend competes in Formula D, he has a LS1 swapped FD RX7, and it makes more torque at IDLE than the MAX torque of the SR.
The KA engine does not suck. It's heavy, it's underpowered, but it's a good and reliable engine. You'll learn how important that word "reliable" is.
I've seen so many SR engines running terribly. It's not a pretty sight. Peace.
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Everywhere except the US with 240sx, only the 240sx SE has the 5 stud wheels
Same here except here all the younger guys own them and know what what they have got.
Considering the SE has the 5 lug wheels, do they have the S14 Silvia/200sx brake package too? (4 piston fixed caliper front, two piston fixed caliper rear)
S15 conversions look terrible no matter how much money you put into it IMO. I would just rather buy a S15 (but not so easy to do in the US).
Hard to find a decent one? How hard are they to get in the US? We had loads and loads of them here, great low milage ones (every silvia S13-15 are all SR20 power here standard except old S13's are CA18). SR20 is a great engine, they have tons of potential for a 4 cyl even with mild mods. I have driven some high tuned SR20 engines of a friends and they are all great, I can't comment of KA24's, never driven one.
Comparing a SR20 with a LS1? Apples to Oranges. More torque at idle than a SR20 MAX................um...ok... It seems to me you have something against SR20's, I personally wouldn't tune a SR20 (I'm not a Silvia or Pulsar person) but I am often around tuned ones and respect them. (but I don't like how they sound)
Race Idiot
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Hard to find a decent one? How hard are they to get in the US? We had loads and loads of them here, great low milage ones (every silvia S13-15 are all SR20 power here standard except old S13's are CA18). SR20 is a great engine, they have tons of potential for a 4 cyl even with mild mods. I have driven some high tuned SR20 engines of a friends and they are all great, I can't comment of KA24's, never driven one.
Comparing a SR20 with a LS1? Apples to Oranges. More torque at idle than a SR20 MAX................um...ok... It seems to me you have something against SR20's, I personally wouldn't tune a SR20 (I'm not a Silvia or Pulsar person) but I am often around tuned ones and respect them. (but I don't like how they sound)
I never said I HATED the SR engine. I say it's overrated. With the tons and tons of SR engines that are tuned well, there is a LOT that are improperly tuned, bad condition in general, and just a huge mess. When ricers hear "zomg SR20! Dorfiftoo!!!" they are bench tuners and just want it cuz it's "jdm mad tyte". In reality, they don't consider the time and MONEY it takes to do tuning work.
Didn't Super Street or something have an article that showed that it was less expensive to have an RB swap than a SR swap?
I live in California, and if you read any 240SX forum, you get a pretty good sense that cops are MAJORLY cracking down on engine swaps, handing out State Ref tickets as if they were candy, and passing out a lot of tickets. Heck, they even have Accords as unmarked police cars now.
Combine that fact that unless have reliable connections and do a lot of communication work and your own work, chances are that your ideal tuned SR20DET engine won't turn out as good as you wanted.
However, yes, there are a lot of well tuned SR engines also, and when the whole package is done right, it's really sweet.
Keef: I live in California. The weather is great for them. The grip is very very good. I never tracked them, but they haven't let me down on grip. After this set, I may go back to my Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3s (If you read Tirerack, they are amoung highest rated, and in last year Car and Driver tire shootout, they ranked 1st. I had them on my FC RX7 TII), stick with another set of Neova's, or go with ADVAN Sport. I like Yokohamas, Bridgestone has a tendancy to make heavy tires.
edit: Also, when doing engine swaps improperly, some people have a tendancy to cut corners on the job. In the short term, it works. In the longer term, the engine doesn't perform nearly as good as it should. That is another reason that might be why I often see poorly tuned SR engines.
Also, in California smog laws, before if you got a State Ref ticket, you could simply pay bail ($800+ dollars at least) and get one point on your insurance (It ends up being a lot of money). However in new California smog laws, you now have a Fix it Ticket, and you have to nevertheless return your car back to stock, even IF you paid bail etc.
Due to this, and also asking people, a lot of guys are bringing their 240s back/close to stock form.
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True, but that is not the engines fault, but rather the owner and can apply to any engine.
I wouldn't know about the article but it wouldn't suprise me at all, as early RB20DET engines can be bought quite cheap.
We are lucky here with the fact that most of our Silva's are factory SR20 with some being CA18, so we don't have many cut corners and shoddy engine converted Silvias, but in the other hand we do have many that maintain them poorly and on occasion those SR's don't cope well (that also can apply to any engine)
However we do have many SR20 engine conversions in other cars like S12 Silvia, Nissan bluebirds, Nissan Pulsars, Corolla's... pretty much everything. Many are good quality conversions but also many are not. I have helped friends with 3 SR20DET conversions, 2 of which were cutting corners and one was done properly. Only one of those cars is still on the road (highly modified now)..... and it's not the two that we cut corners with (owners were impatient and didn't want to spend any money)
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Well I don't know where you live but here in Seattle there are 4 shops that get awesome SRs and they know how to tune them, hell if you call up Apex'i they will actually recommend one of the shops here(Intec Racing) and one of the other shops is known for getting good clean(you can eat off the thing) and strong running SRs.
And with the S15 conversions if the person that you have doing it know what they are doing they look sweet one of the local shops(Intec Racing) built an S13 with the S15 front end and it competes in D1, HERE is the link of the whole build up. ENJOY!
Keef
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Keef: I live in California. The weather is great for them. The grip is very very good. I never tracked them, but they haven't let me down on grip. After this set, I may go back to my Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3s (If you read Tirerack, they are amoung highest rated, and in last year Car and Driver tire shootout, they ranked 1st. I had them on my FC RX7 TII), stick with another set of Neova's, or go with ADVAN Sport. I like Yokohamas, Bridgestone has a tendancy to make heavy tires.
It's almost as if the GS-D3 has been placed in the wrong performance class because they perform nearly as well as AD07s and the ultimate dry tire, the BFG T/A KD. Do yo know anyone who had used T/A KDs or have you thought about them for your car? They're completely useless in the wet, but it doesn't rain much where you are, and that's cool because they're the best "normal" dry tire there is. Unless you like to cruise on 5000 mile R-counpounds.
Diablomonkey: I visit my friend's shop (He is the one who drifts the LS1 FD3S RX7) and there are well done SR swaps, and there are cars that are driven into the ground. There are tons of good shops here in California.
That is a nice S13.5, but that's definitely not the nicest conversion I've seen.
Not to take away from my thread, but this is the nicest S15 conversion I've seen, S13.5 as well:
Keef: I've never run on the T/A KD, but everything I've heard is exactly what you said: sick on the dry, useless in wet. I personally don't like that kind of tire, because it still does rain here.
My friend's WRX is running on the GSD3's and he says that they're great in wet, excellent in dry. After a while though, the edges wore out a bit (because he takes corners aggressively), but apart from that, he passes cars on the freeway when it's raining.
If you want an alternative the the T/A KD, I would suggest the new Potenza RE-01R's. I was considering them when I got my Neova's, however, they are heavier than the Neovas.
I personally NEVER in my life will cheapout on tires, because for safety. They're the only things on the car that touches the ground, and they're important.
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Sweet 👍 make sure you post pics once its on!
And are the rear fenders flared on that S13.5? or are they over fenders?
And are the rear fenders flared on that S13.5? or are they over fenders?
It's a lower front suspension peice (It connects the tension rods together) so it won't be noticible in any photos unfortunately.
The S13.5 has full GP Sports aero, with Charge Speed front and rear fenders.
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Well then take a picture of it before its on
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Cool stuff bro...
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The KA engine does not suck. It's heavy, it's underpowered, but it's a good and reliable engine. You'll learn how important that word "reliable" is.
I've seen so many SR engines running terribly. It's not a pretty sight. Peace.
x2. i just hit 225k miles on mines yesterday. did a compression test on the motor last year with 190 on all four, ppl down here are making over 500 whp with ka-ts
dont know where you get your information from
