The Enthusiast's List – Let's get these added!

[NJ72]

I'm perplexed as to why you chose the HB Cosmo. It's a quirky choice, for sure, but to omit the Cosmo 110S and the JC Cosmo (20B, naturally) seems incredulous!

I'd also like to see, as a real quirky one that would never actually make it, the RX-8 PZ. It was a limited run UK-only special edition series one RX-8 which was modified by Prodrive. As said, will never happen, but is certainly in the 'enthusaist' bucket of RX-8s.

As for other makes and marques, I would really like to see some love for the Ford Escort Cosworth, the Renault Clio Williams and the Ford Sierra Cosworth. All intriguing cars, with the Sierra and Escort potentially slotting in to the Legends Dealer - at least in race spec guise.

On that note, a Mk.II Ford Escort would be a hoot as well.

And finally, to round out my list, the Subaru Blob-eye Impreza Rally Car please.

 

[Tenacious D]

Also zero chance of the cars you're flagging as "Legends" to actually be "Legends".

I had to go back and look, since I'm running on four hours sleep, oy. But he didn't mention Haggerty or the Legends at all.

Anyhow, I want PD to bring in as many sports cars as possible which can fill out a roster of racing vehicles from the 80s into early 2000s. I love what GT7 currently has on offer, but Kaz being a car and motorsport historian, he needs to sick his team on what I consider the glory days of sports cars and Touring Cars. I was mooning over some of these very racers, particularly the Esprit and Carlton. My adds would be these.

• Audi Quattro and Quattro Sport, only available in the Pikes Peak Rally car, and that's such a shame
• BMW M1
• Ferrari F355 and Challenge
• Ferrari 550 / 575 Maranello
• Saleen S7

And gosh... so many classy BMWs, Jaguars, Maseratis, Mercedes-Benz and Porsches which raced back then. I'm lusting after a more or less fleshed out field of 1980-99 era DTM, Touring Car and FIA GT racing.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Anyone remember the Lotus tuned Isuzu sedan that is super rare in the US? Can't remember the name.

 

[Talon16]

YES to the DSMs! I'd like to see the 1Gb as well (93-94).

Also, Acura RSX-R and Evo VIII.

 

[NJ72]

I had to go back and look, since I'm running on four hours sleep, oy. But he didn't mention Haggerty or the Legends at all.

There's a number of cars with (legends) written in front, I presume that's what Famine was referring to

 

[Keef]

Anyone remember the Lotus tuned Isuzu sedan that is super rare in the US? Can't remember the name.

The Impulse?

I'm actually not sure that's ever been in a GT game.

 

[JaguarXJ81]

I had to go back and look, since I'm running on four hours sleep, oy. But he didn't mention Haggerty or the Legends at all.

Anyhow, I want PD to bring in as many sports cars as possible which can fill out a roster of racing vehicles from the 80s into early 2000s. I love what GT7 currently has on offer, but Kaz being a car and motorsport historian, he needs to sick his team on what I consider the glory days of sports cars and Touring Cars. I was mooning over some of these very racers, particularly the Esprit and Carlton. My adds would be these.

• Audi Quattro and Quattro Sport, only available in the Pikes Peak Rally car, and that's such a shame
• BMW M1
• Ferrari F355 and Challenge
• Ferrari 550 / 575 Maranello
• Saleen S7

And gosh... so many classy BMWs, Jaguars, Maseratis, Mercedes-Benz and Porsches which raced back then. I'm lusting after a more or less fleshed out field of 1980-99 era DTM, Touring Car and FIA GT racing.

I actually did have the '03 MG ZT-T Estate listed as possible Legends, mostly due to the fact that a ZT-T actually ran the fastest time or record for an Estate back when it came out, among other things. But ultimately I think he may be right about at least that assumption of Legends status for the ZT-T. I think some of my other mentions, like the Lamborghini Jarama S, might be better suited for that category.

In regards to the 1980-1999 era, I couldn't agree more, and pretty much what my two friends and I were going for with the list!

 

[Famine]

I had to go back and look, since I'm running on four hours sleep, oy. But he didn't mention Haggerty or the Legends at all.

Although it no longer appears on the MG:

Jaguar:
(Legends)-1989 Lister-Jaguar XJS Le Mans

Lamborghini:
*(Legends)-1972 Lamborghini Jarama S

Lotus:
*(Legends)-1989 Lotus Esprit Turbo 300

MG:
*(Legends)-2003 MG ZT-T Estate

 

[JaguarXJ81]

I'm perplexed as to why you chose the HB Cosmo. It's a quirky choice, for sure, but to omit the Cosmo 110S and the JC Cosmo (20B, naturally) seems incredulous!

I'd also like to see, as a real quirky one that would never actually make it, the RX-8 PZ. It was a limited run UK-only special edition series one RX-8 which was modified by Prodrive. As said, will never happen, but is certainly in the 'enthusaist' bucket of RX-8s.

As for other makes and marques, I would really like to see some love for the Ford Escort Cosworth, the Renault Clio Williams and the Ford Sierra Cosworth. All intriguing cars, with the Sierra and Escort potentially slotting in to the Legends Dealer - at least in race spec guise.

On that note, a Mk.II Ford Escort would be a hoot as well.

And finally, to round out my list, the Subaru Blob-eye Impreza Rally Car please.

Honestly, I like the way the HB Cosmo looks, it really just is unique all around, haven't much seen another Mazda like it!

In reference to the Euro Ford classics, I actually wholeheartedly agree. I assumed though that Ford was going to get their due diligence by PD, though. Some of those Ford's were in GT 5/6 too, if I recall correctly...

Anyone remember the Lotus tuned Isuzu sedan that is super rare in the US? Can't remember the name.

That's the one, the Isuzu Impulse. Believe all packages had Lotus suspension too, even base models. Love that car.

 

[breyzipp]

I like the list. Not to say that it’s the definitive must have list or something but, I like it

 

[Keef]

I thought Famine was pretty clear about the MG station wagon you keep talking about lol. This might turn into a meme.

This weird little station wagon you keep on about is no more special than the various 80s and 90s crapbox starter cars we all bought for 6,000 credits in Gran Turismo 2. There is absolutely nothing special about it. In fact I'd argue that the first-generation Ford Explorer is a vastly more iconic car to society in virtually ever measure.

With that, here's my addition to the list:

- 1991 Ford Explorer XLT (legends)

Why? Because it took a relatively obscure and unrefined idea - a tall, off-road capable family wagon - and turned it mainstream. The Explorer revolutionized the auto industry across the entire planet, sparking a boom of refined and luxurious off-road worthy SUVs and crossovers which is a trend still growing today, over 30 years after its debut. The Explorer itself has sold millions of vehicles throughout its lifetime and directly influenced the sales of millions of other similar vehicles for decades. If you currently know anybody driving around in an AWD crossover, you can thank the original Ford Explorer for introducing that basic idea to the market.

Get outta here with your crappy British wagon lol. The Ford Explorer is like the American version of the Volkswagen Golf and clearly deserves to be featured in the Hagerty Collection.

 

[JaguarXJ81]

I thought Famine was pretty clear about the MG station wagon you keep talking about lol. This might turn into a meme.

This weird little station wagon you keep on about is no more special than the various 80s and 90s crapbox starter cars we all bought for 6,000 credits in Gran Turismo 2. There is absolutely nothing special about it. In fact I'd argue that the first-generation Ford Explorer is a vastly more iconic car to society in virtually ever measure.

With that, here's my addition to the list:

- 1991 Ford Explorer XLT (legends)

Why? Because it took a relatively obscure and unrefined idea - a tall, off-road capable family wagon - and turned it mainstream. The Explorer revolutionized the auto industry across the entire planet, sparking a boom of refined and luxurious off-road worthy SUVs and crossovers which is a trend still growing today, over 30 years after its debut. The Explorer itself has sold millions of vehicles throughout its lifetime and directly influenced the sales of millions of other similar vehicles for decades. If you currently know anybody driving around in an AWD crossover, you can thank the original Ford Explorer for introducing that basic idea to the market.

Get outta here with your crappy British wagon lol. The Ford Explorer is like the American version of the Volkswagen Golf and clearly deserves to be featured in the Hagerty Collection.

It's really not that serious. Issue of why it couldn't be was squared away with Famine. Your suggestion is actually a great one, I love the Explorer a lot and it's rebadge clones too like the Navajo, etc. Keep the suggestions flowing, I encourage it.

 

[PorscheFan911]

Add these to that list

BMW:
-E36 M3
-E46 M3 CSL/GTR
-E39 M5
-E60 M5
-F10 M5
-E31 (?) M8 ( one example exists deep in the secret rooms of BMW

Ferrari:
-F355
-550/575 Marranello
-360 Stradale
-430 Scuderia
-F12 TDF
-812 Compétitione

Lamborghini :
-Gallardo LP550-2 Valentino Balboni
- Murcielago LP670-4SV

Mercedes-Benz

-190E 2.5-16v Evo II Street and DTM
-W124 500E
-W140/220/221 S600
-W204 C63 Limo
-W211/212E55/63
-R230 SL55/63/65

Porsche:
-F 2.7 RS
-981 + 982 Cayman S/GTS/GT4/RS
-997.1 S/GTS/GT3/RS/Turbo
-991.2 + 992 S/GTS/GT3/Turbo

I'm a big Porsche/BMW/Mercedes guy , which is apparent. Id love to see those

 

[JaguarXJ81]

Add these to that list

BMW:
-E36 M3
-E46 M3 CSL/GTR
-E39 M5
-E60 M5
-F10 M5
-E31 (?) M8 ( one example exists deep in the secret rooms of BMW

Ferrari:
-F355
-550/575 Marranello
-360 Stradale
-430 Scuderia
-F12 TDF
-812 Compétitione

Lamborghini :
-Gallardo LP550-2 Valentino Balboni
- Murcielago LP670-4SV

Mercedes-Benz

-190E 2.5-16v Evo II Street and DTM
-W124 500E
-W140/220/221 S600
-W204 C63 Limo
-W211/212E55/63
-R230 SL55/63/65

Porsche:
-F 2.7 RS
-981 + 982 Cayman S/GTS/GT4/RS
-997.1 S/GTS/GT3/RS/Turbo
-991.2 + 992 S/GTS/GT3/Turbo

I'm a big Porsche/BMW/Mercedes guy , which is apparent. Id love to see those

Absolutely bumped!

 

[WALKER1916]

We need classic fords and Vauxhall's, why escort cossies and rs turbos and seirra cosworths arent in the game is beyond me. Astra GTE, vxr would also be good features. Is the Jag jx220 in the game?

 

[Marty_Debiru]

Well, as a Nissan owner and enthusiast (and Kaz too) I have the feeling NIssan cars should be expanded, so here's my list.

180SX Zenki
180SX Chuki
240SX (the US model with KA24)

Silvia CSP311 (the first Silvia)
Silvia S12 (if possible both coupe and hatchback versions)
Silvia S14 (a must, I can't even understand why it's not aleady in the game)
Silvia S15 Spec S
**Silvia S15 Aero with bodyparts options (right now only base bumper is available, so make the optional Aero bumper available on GT Auto)
Silvia S15 Varietta (because lolz?)

Skyline PGC10 (that's the Hakosuka GT-R but 4 door, the OG GT-R)
Skyline KPGC110
Skyline 400R
Skyline GTS and GTT versions of R32, R33 and R34
Skyline 4 door versions of R32, R33 and R34

Cherry E10 Coupe (lots of old race cars from this model and road version is very cute)
Fairlady S130Z (top of the hat with optional ABR wide body kit)


---Race cars---

Fairlady S30Z race car (there's lots of categories, so one that could fit for GT)
240Z BRE Race car (legendary, any more to say)
510 BRE Race car
Skyline KPGC10 Kunimitsu Takahashi (legendary driver, should be inmortalized on GT)
Skyline KPGC10 race car (Fuji GC for example)
Skyline KPGC110 race car
Silvia S12 Turbo Super Sillhouette
Sunny B110 race car (very popular race car back in the day)
Nissan R380
Skyline R32 Calsonic
Skyline R33 Le Mans
Skyline R34 JGTC Pennzoil



---Special Tuned cars---

Daijiro Inada Option Super Stream Z
Veilside Skyline R32 drag car
Veilside Skyline R34 Yatabe top speed trial
HKS Skyline R33 Yatabe top speed trial (the black one, very important for the brand)
Blitz SKyline R34 top speed machine
Mine's Skyline R34
Top Secret Skyline R34 "GT-RR" (the legendary gold one)
Top Secret Skyline R32 "VR32" (GT-R powered)
Top Secret GT-R "TSGold 2021" (TAS winner)
ABR Fairlady S130 Mid Night
SS Active Skyline R32 full carbon
Varis GT-R "Kamikaze R"
Friends Racing Silvia S15 Time Attack car
Under Suzuku's Silvia S15 Time Attack car (before the crash)


---D1 Machines---
Since Gran Turismo is the MAIN sponsor of D1GP and sub divions, I always find it weird they never had a comprehensive collection of said cars, so here some legendary Nissan D1 cars. These cars ran for lots of years and under different teams and evolutions, so hard to say a concrete year, they are usually known by their most famous years.

D1GP Trust Greddy Silvia S15 driven by Masato Kawabata
D1GP Bee-Racing Skyline R32 "R324" driven by Tsuyoshi Tezuka
D1GP Blitz Uras Skyline ER34 driven by Nomura Ken
D1GP Cockpit Kei Office Silvia S15 driven by Yasuyuki Kazama (the legendary green car)
D1GP Team Orange M Sport Silvia S13 driven by Naoto Suenaga (black car, later went to D1SL)
D1GP Team Orange M SPort Silvia S15 driven by Kazuhiro Tanaka (orange car)
D1GP HKS Silvia S15 driven by Nobuteru Taniguchi
D1GP Top Secret Silvia S15 driven by Ryuji Miki
D1GP Auto Produce Boss Silvia S15 driven by Yoichi Imamura (2009 champion)
D1GP Team Orange Laurel C33 driven by Nobushige Kumakubo (2012 champion)
D1GP Team Toyo 180SX driven by Masato Kawabata (2013 champion)
D1GP D-Max Silvia S15 driven by Masashi Yokoi (2018 champion)
D1GP Mugen Plus Team Alive Silvia S15 driven by Naoki Nakamura (2021 champion)

D1SL Nismo Silvia S15 driven by Naoto Suenaga
D1SL MCR Silvia S14 driven by Masashi Yokoi
D1SL Origin Labo with RYO / Team Burst Silvia S13 driven by Naoki Nakamura (legendary pink/purple car, lots of years to choose)
D1SL Koguchi Power 180SX driven by Yoshinori Koguchi (2008-ish)

D1 Lights MCR 180SX driven by Mogami Takeshi (2021 champion)
D1 Lights R31 House Skyline R31 driven by Soba Kiri

 

[Greasyfatman]

Alto works s
1986 MR2 both ways
With k20 engine swap

MR-S
With K20 engine swap available

 

[TonyLomas]

I’d be happy to see a lot of the cars for the 90s return from the older games.
Like:
Honda Civic 1.4 circa 1991
Jaguar XJ220
Ford Mondeo
Subaru Impreza Sportwagon
Volkswagen Swimmerwagen (obviously not from the 90s)

 

[xMAXIx79]

BMW:

850i
M1 Procar + Race Procar
E30 M3 DTM
E91 335D 😉
1M Coupė
X5M

MB:

190E 2.5 EvoII DTM
E63T AMG

Opel:

Calibra DTM

Audi:

Audi V8 Quattro DTM

Mazda:

626 Coupė
323F V6

Mitsubishi:

Ellipse D20/22a GS-T/GS-X

 

[Tenacious D]

How could I forget TVR? Does lack of sleep make one senile?

• Cerbera Speed 6
• Tuscan Speed 6
• Cerbera Speed 12
• Griffith 500
• Sagaris
• T350C
• Tamora
• V8S

 

[xMAXIx79]

How could I forget TVR? Does lack of sleep make one senile?

• Cerbera Speed 6
• Tuscan Speed 6
• Cerbera Speed 12
• Griffith 500
• Sagaris
• T350C
• Tamora
• V8S

What you think about Wiesmann Roadster? 😉

 

[AmyUD06]

I thought Famine was pretty clear about the MG station wagon you keep talking about lol. This might turn into a meme.

This weird little station wagon you keep on about is no more special than the various 80s and 90s crapbox starter cars we all bought for 6,000 credits in Gran Turismo 2. There is absolutely nothing special about it. In fact I'd argue that the first-generation Ford Explorer is a vastly more iconic car to society in virtually ever measure.

With that, here's my addition to the list:

- 1991 Ford Explorer XLT (legends)

Why? Because it took a relatively obscure and unrefined idea - a tall, off-road capable family wagon - and turned it mainstream. The Explorer revolutionized the auto industry across the entire planet, sparking a boom of refined and luxurious off-road worthy SUVs and crossovers which is a trend still growing today, over 30 years after its debut. The Explorer itself has sold millions of vehicles throughout its lifetime and directly influenced the sales of millions of other similar vehicles for decades. If you currently know anybody driving around in an AWD crossover, you can thank the original Ford Explorer for introducing that basic idea to the market.

Get outta here with your crappy British wagon lol. The Ford Explorer is like the American version of the Volkswagen Golf and clearly deserves to be featured in the Hagerty Collection.

Just think, they could code it to require an engine rebuild every 1,000 miles to try to get the feeling of the real-world reliablity. There's a reason they were nicknamed the "Exploder."

It would also give PD an opportunity to work on the roll-over physics, since taking any kind of sharp curve at more than 40mph would toss these things over.

Besides, the AMC Eagle beat the Explorer to the "AWD Crossover" game by a decade.

 

[Famine]

Well, as a Nissan owner and enthusiast (and Kaz too) I have the feeling NIssan cars should be expanded, so here's my list.

Skyline R34 JGTC Pennzoil

🤷‍♂️

 

[MonoTonouS]

Totaly ignored the first generation Rx-7 , shameee , SHAME!

 

[Tenacious D]

What you think about Wiesmann Roadster? 😉

It looks interesting, and then there's this little factoid.

The Roadster MF5 V10 was the most exclusive model Wiesmann built, with a limited production of only 43 cars.

Would be nice if some generous owner would let PD pour over and drive it. Fast.

Although I have to say that with so many obscure cars which I'd like to see return like the Atlantique, Cizeta and Spirra, I'd put the Wiesmann on a back burner for a while. And while I'm on it...

• Bugatti EB110
• Cizeta V16T
• Oullim Motors Spirra
• Venturi Atlantique 400 GTR

 

[kjb]

How can you forget the Honda Prelude? Specifically the 96 SiR IT was always in Car & Drivers best handling cars.