NASCAR ain't as easy as it looks...

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I hate all the NASCAR bashers as much as the next guy, but even those who defend only mention that its hard to pack race and its all a thinking game and pit stops and so on and so forth. What nobody ever mentions is that NASCAR Sprint Cup Cars are hard to drive. Sure it wouldnt seem it since you just go left (the usuall argument) but the truth is it's very difficult. Stock Cars have alot of horsepower which means the rear end almost never has grip coming out of the turns. You cant mash the gas coming out of a corner you have to very slowly roll out of the throttle and half the time countersteer. Even on the ovals those cars are pitched around 5 degrees going though the corners because the rear end always wants to come around. Dont belive me? buy a copy of Nascar Racing 2003 Season for the PC or get yourself an iracing.com suscription and try running an impalla SS around Atlanta without hitting anything. If GT5 gets the physics down correctly, you're all in for a hell of a surprize.

BTW i highly reccomend iracing.com. Best racing sim on the PC! (probably ever)
 
NASCAR is boring, official.




jk..

but you say its hard, but you CANNOT compare it to F1, FIA GT and LMP, DTM and especially WRC...
 
No you can't, they're all different types of racing. NASCAR is hard in its own way and is nothing like F1, WRC, or anything. I like when people say NASCAR is easy even though they have never raced it, not saying anyone here did, just saying. No racing is easy, its all hard to do.
 
Why did you make this thread? You are just asking for a flame war. People have their opinions and it's not worth your time to try and change them.
 
Just because the racing is close like in other forms of racing does not make NASCAR hard...

If you took a Nascar driver and asked him to race a F1 or WRC car, he wouldnt even be seen. if you asked a WRC or F1 driver to race Nascar he would be fairly competitive.

Yes Nascar racing is close and requires precision but its nothing a good driver cant do. I say Nascar is equally easy between all the drivers making it hard to win, not hard to drive.
 
I played Nascar 98 by EA, i agree it's frustrating & takes forever to win ( like trying to reach first place & staying away from walls etc ) if you don't know what you are doing.Since playing the game i've taken to Nascar quite a lot, always remember your right side tyres rub down to the wires first.
 
balang_479
Just because the racing is close like in other forms of racing does not make NASCAR hard...

If you took a Nascar driver and asked him to race a F1 or WRC car, he wouldnt even be seen. if you asked a WRC or F1 driver to race Nascar he would be fairly competitive.

Yes Nascar racing is close and requires precision but its nothing a good driver cant do. I say Nascar is equally easy between all the drivers making it hard to win, not hard to drive.
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What?

Juan Pablo Montoya was only competitive on the road races his first two years. He is just now getting good. There are also several other F1 drivers that have tried and failed. EVERY form of professional racing is hard no matter what and you can't jump from one discipline to another and be competitive right away. Sure after a few years you may start to get good, but it won't be immediate.

Edit: Also, I advise you to read the first line in my signature.
 
Some could, when Montoya and Jeff Gordon switched, Jeff was a few seconds off the record for F1 at Indy. Give anybody enough time in a car they can figure it out. But like I said, every thing is hard so this is pointless.

Edit, Yea what Justin said :lol:
 
Nascar isn't easy but neither is c leaning sewers or being a proctologist... Not being easy doesn't mean its hard in a fun way...
 
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Not trying to start an argument here, Jim Clark won the Indianapolis race in his Lotus 49 in the 60's.Nigel Mansell apparently did quite well there too in the 500.
 
Smoke&Slide
I played Nascar 98 by EA, i agree it's frustrating & takes forever to win ( like trying to reach first place & staying away from walls etc ) if you don't know what you are doing.Since playing the game i've taken to Nascar quite a lot, always remember your right side tyres rub down to the wires first.
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NASCAR 98, one of the first three PS1 games i got Christmas 97.... 8)

On topic: NASCAR cant be compared to F1.
Is F1 more difficult? No. Its different.
 
balang_479
NASCAR is boring, official.




jk..

but you say its hard, but you CANNOT compare it to F1, FIA GT and LMP, DTM and especially WRC...
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Someone once said, "Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, they are also entitled to be wrong" :P

Can't wait for this game to get here!!!
 
balang_479
Just because the racing is close like in other forms of racing does not make NASCAR hard...

If you took a Nascar driver and asked him to race a F1 or WRC car, he wouldnt even be seen. if you asked a WRC or F1 driver to race Nascar he would be fairly competitive.

Yes Nascar racing is close and requires precision but its nothing a good driver cant do. I say Nascar is equally easy between all the drivers making it hard to win, not hard to drive.
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Funny you should say that sir. Let's look at your "facts"

Let's take a race car driver out of the NASCAR series whom I dislike but is very talented, Tony Stewart.

-Won Indy League Racing championship in 1997
-In 1995 swept championships in United States Auto Club (USAC) Midget, Sprint Car and Silver Crown competition, the first driver to do so

Okay now that is taken care of I'm sure you still want some WRC action. Unfortunately, I can't provide you with the WRC but maybe off-road? Enter...Jimmie Johnson!

-Johnson won six off-road racing championships, including two MTEG Superlite championships (1992, '95), the 1992 Miller Challenge Superlite title, the 1993 SCORE Class 10 Desert championship, and two SODA Winter Series overall titles (1996, '97)

Now let's take a quick peek at the "superior" drivers who would burn the NASCAR competition.

Now to prove I am fair I bring you the most successful crossover driver in modern NASCAR history...Juan Pablo Montoya.

-1 win in his career. Oh yeah you guessed it road coarse.
-8 top five finishes
- Avg. finish 20.7

Quick hits
-Marcos Ambrose Avg. finish 21.9 NO WINS
-Sam Hornish Jr. Avg. Finish 28.1 NO WINS

I can keep going but the simple facts are drivers from other organizations DO NOT translate to NASCAR, however NASCAR drivers find success in other organizations.

Now I'm not trying to pick on you sir, but I hate ignorance when it comes to the sport I grew up with.
 
Ive never seen this vid and im a Jeff Gordon fan.
Sucks to be from Germany, stuff like that never gets a place in the free TV news here.
 
balang_479
If you took a Nascar driver and asked him to race a F1 or WRC car, he wouldnt even be seen. if you asked a WRC or F1 driver to race Nascar he would be fairly competitive.

Yes Nascar racing is close and requires precision but its nothing a good driver cant do. I say Nascar is equally easy between all the drivers making it hard to win, not hard to drive.
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Wrong. F1 drivers have raced in NASCAR (and still do), and can't stay in the front no matter how good they were at F1. Two totally different racing types, and both equally as difficult.
 
Almost all types of motor sports got some difficulties in it, I don't get why hate on each other just because one is from America, others is from Japan etc etc. It's true that motor sports came from Europe first, but that doesn't mean other country don't have the rights to create their own types of motor sports.

Ah, what the hell. I love all types of cars so I don't care what types of motor sports I watch as long as there's an engine in it.
 
It's true that motor sports came from Europe first,
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Is it?

I mean seriously, i thought US motorsport started around the same time.

EDIT: Ah okay, ive searched for it and yes, it started more or less in France.
 
ralph89
Almost all types of motor sports got some difficulties in it, I don't get why hate on each other just because one is from America, others is from Japan etc etc. It's true that motor sports came from Europe first, but that doesn't mean other country don't have the rights to create their own types of motor sports.

Ah, what the hell. I love all types of cars so I don't care what types of motor sports I watch as long as there's an engine in it.
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It is impossible to actually trace who did it first. France had the first organized version but you know that people were racing before that.
 
You know, I've had some time to think about it, and NASCAR really isn't that bad to me anymore. It might be a bit boring, but i've looked at the facts, and it's harder than I thought. So, i'm done with what you all call "bashing". Like, each sport deserves respect.
 
Justin
It is impossible to actually trace who did it first. France had the first organized version but you know that people were racing before that.
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I guess so.

Let's a find a DeLorean then 100 mph through the wall maybe it can show us who started it. :lol:
 
US has boardtrack racing on motorcycles a looooong time ago. Maybe not the first motorsport, but probably the first deadly motorsport.
edit- Just looked this up, skip to 2:30 for the racing, just info at first.
 
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