NASCAR Thread.

[red7]

Wait, j gordon is what 86 pts behind? Not over till its over Jimmy could wreck or have a tire down from debris. We'll see...

 

[TS]

Wait, j gordon is what 86 pts behind? Not over till its over Jimmy could wreck or have a tire down from debris. We'll see...

Agreed.

Anything could happen to JJ, just look at the truck race Friday, Skinner had a tire fall off mid-way through the race and finished 35th, 10 laps down.

 

[Solid Fro]

Anyone notice the lead car at the beginning of the race? A new Bullitt Mustang! By far the best looking Mustang.

 

[WallRunner]

I noticed that, it was cool, and Congratulations to JJ on the 2nd Championship in a row, and I just noticed something, Jimmie won his second championship in a row on my copy of NASCAR 08 yesterday

From,
Chris.

 

[JohnBM01]

Here's an overview of your NASCAR champions for this year...

* Ron Hornaday Jr. (NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series)
* Carl Edwards (clinched long ago; NASCAR Nationwide Series)
* Jimmie Johnson (NASCAR Sprint Cup Series)

So allow me to sound off on the Homestead deal. My "Sound Off!" segments will now be in Deep Sky Blue.


Jimmie Johnson is Really the Real Deal
Most NASCAR fans knew it was only a matter of time that Jimmie Johnson would win the championship. I do believe in miracles, just that Jeff Gordon's drive for five didn't play out this season. Jeff Gordon led most of the championship standings with his consistency. But down the stretch, it was all Jimmie Johnson. Again, Jimmie Johnson only led Jeff Gordon in the championship standings because he had more wins on the season. I think Johnson had six to Gordon's five heading into the chase. Most of you all know I love Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson. These are two of the true champions of NASCAR racing today. I highly respect both of them and their abilities.

Jimmie Johnson's push for defending his championship came out successfully with some of Jeff Gordon's late struggles. He didn't win the race, but it didn't matter because Jimmie Johnson and the #48 Lowe's team got it done and big. I have nothing but respect for Jimmie Johnson. I was still pretty mad as hell when that lady from Alabama wanted Jeff Gordon to win because of Jimmie Johnson's dominance. I guess that Alabama lady will never see a NASCAR race again. Nice knowing you! Anyhow, I think this reassures that Jimmie Johnson is a true and complete champion. None of the drama queen, "pamper me" diva, not always in the news for the wrong reasons... he just races and wins. That's what I love about Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon. This was basically Hendrick Motorsports' season. Their two best drivers dominated most or all of the season. I couldn't be any prouder for Jimmie Johnson. He's as "for real" as it gets.

As for Jeff Gordon... he may have conceded a bit, but he still knows there was that outside hope that Jimmie Johnson could screw up in South Beach. It didn't happen, but he still went for it like he was trying to defend a championship lead. Applaud his courage, but feel a little sorry Jeff Gordon didn't win. I think Jeff Gordon will get championship #5 unless he decides to hang it up. Who knows? Maybe he'll join the exclusive class of champions in NASCAR with seven championships. I still think he's a Hall of Fame racer just awaiting induction (if it hasn't happened already). Jeff Gordon is going to remember the different things that made this season so good for him. I've been a Jeff Gordon fan even before I've grown to love Jimmie Johnson. These are two quality race car drivers. They simply know how to win and win at all costs. Look for Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson to compete among themselves next season to turn NASCAR Cup upside down... again. Jeff Gordon didn't win, but I congratulate Jimmie Johnson AND Jeff Gordon for their efforts.



John's Debate! - Remembering 2007
How will you remember the 2007 season in NASCAR? What is your favorite memory? What would be your biggest wins or most disappoiting losses this season?

 

[RACECAR]

I noticed that, it was cool, and Congratulations to JJ on the 2nd Championship in a row, and I just noticed something, Jimmie won his second championship in a row on my copy of NASCAR 08 yesterday

From,
Chris.

Really? Looks like you already knew who the champion was before the green Flag dropped.

 

[Sting]

Anyone want to tell me how Montoya, with all his crashing and hitting people, can be rookie of the year?

 

[RACECAR]

Anyone want to tell me how Montoya, with all his crashing and hitting people, can be rookie of the year?

No offence intended, but You say this like he has no talent. I think the main reason hes rookie of the year is he finished more then Ragan did and on top of that, he won a race, which automatically put him way ahead I would think.

 

[Studentdriver]

It's strictly points-based.

 

[JohnBM01]

I respect Juan Pablo Montoya. Here's the thing... Tony Stewart- good driver, but a bigtime punk. Name me someone else who'll be like, "if he don't move I'll slam his motherf:censored:ing ass into the wall." Juan Pablo Montoya- a good driver who can be a hothead, but not an ass. He's won on ovals before, and I know he's a great driver. He's done something I'm sure a few current NASCAR drivers haven't done- win an F1 race. Realize how hard it is no matter what team you race for? It's always said that F1 is more technology and less racing. NASCAR's the dead opposite. Some people will just say that people who can win in NASCAR can win in F1. Well, what about Zanardi's run in F1 from Champ Car back in the late 1990s? Juan Pablo Montoya has been somewhat consistent. He's learning the ropes and adjusting from mostly road courses to mostly ovals. He's still a good driver. I don't go blasting Montoya religiously. I don't hate on F1 just because of what Montoya's F1 experience brings to NASCAR. I think Juan Pablo Montoya could win a number of races in Cup. He'll have to keep being consistent and placing high consistently if he wants to be a serious threat.

I think the reason why Juan Pablo Montoya got Rookie of the Year in NASCAR was more like how Danica Patrick got Rookie of the Year in IndyCar- consistency, completing laps, finishing races... I know Juan Pablo Montoya didn't blow away the competition or stayed in it all race long, but he still competed to the best of his ability. I've respected Montoya since I first seen him race back in 1999 in (then) CART. Maybe I don't watch NASCAR all that much, but I do know that he's a better driver than what he's credited for in the NASCAR community. And yes, he's done well in points.

 

[TS]

Congrats to Jimmie Johnson on winning the championship and to Montoya for winning ROTY.

It's strictly points-based.

It's actually based of the drivers' 17 best finishes, they get points based off of where they finish in relation to other ROTY candidates. They also get 1 bonus point if they finish in the 10th (they get more points the higher up they finish in the top-10).

 

[Studentdriver]

Ah yes, I remember reading that on ESPN.com...I knew it was all in relation to the other rookies, but I didn't remember the specifics.

 

[TS]

Ah yes, I remember reading that on ESPN.com...I knew it was all in relation to the other rookies, but I didn't remember the specifics.

Yeah, but I explained it the simple way, the way NASCAR wrote the rules on that make it rather complicated to understand. (thank god for Jayski 👍)

 

[CAMikaze]

(thank god for Jayski 👍)

Speaking of which, does Jayski have the Nielsen ratings for the Ford 400 race? Did Gordon's concession(sp?) after the Phoenix race give a reason for people not to tune in? I'm sorry if I put it that way, and no knock against either Jeff or Jimmie intended, but conceding the title when you still have a chance of winning it with a race to go in my mind isn't quite the attitude I would have. Who knows what would happen in the final race? Sometimes the unexpected could happen and cause things to turn out differently. Example given, Lewis Hamilton going into the F1 Chinese GP. Many were expecting him to drive out of there with the Drivers Championship until that infamous misadventure into the gravel trap entering the pits. Suddenly, we had a battle for the title with Alonso and Hakkinen entering back into the picture going into the final round at Brasil and Interlagos. And who could forget what happened there with Mika unexpecedly coming out of the Showdown Between the Lakes with the Drivers Championship in his posession?

Apologies if I went OT there, but I'm of the opinion if I still had a chance at the title, I would have a mindset of just doing what I can in the next race and let the chips fall where they may. And I did have a look at the ratings around the time the Phoenix took place the week before and I see that the TV ratings for the races are pretty much down comapred to last year in many cases.

 

[toyota_gt1]

who won the Nationwide ROTY?

 

[TS]

who won the Nationwide ROTY?

David Ragan.

 

[Skid Mark 33]

Can some explain to me please what is undertaking. Isn't it suppoused to happen alot in NASCAR?

 

[RACECAR]

I just noticed Roush Teammates David Ragan and Carl Edwards were chasing after a championship and Raybestos ROTY and both ended up getting there respective prizes only in The Busch Series. And you know after looking at DEI over the years after Earnhardt Sr's death, I never wanted to say this, but now it seems more true then before: Unless Teresa is gone, DEI will never win a cup championship. They'll always win a busch series championship, maybe two(that seems to have been the pattern with the Juniors), but there will never be a cup title in their trophy case as long as Teresa is there and it looks like she isn't going anywhere.

Can some explain to me please what is undertaking. Isn't it suppoused to happen alot in NASCAR?

What are you talking about?

 

[TS]

I just noticed Roush Teammates David Ragan and Carl Edwards were chasing after a championship and Raybestos ROTY and both ended up getting there respective prizes only in The Busch Series. And you know after looking at DEI over the years after Earnhardt Sr's death, I never wanted to say this, but now it seems more true then before: Unless Teresa is gone, DEI will never win a cup championship. They'll always win a busch series championship, maybe two(that seems to have been the pattern with the Juniors), but there will never be a cup title in their trophy case as long as Teresa is there and it looks like she isn't going anywhere.

I would have to agree with that, but I think they'll still be contenders for it as long as they don't screw over Truex Jr. (or Mark Martin for that matter)

What are you talking about?

I think he might be asking why are all the indycar drivers are heading to NASCAR.

Which is rather easy to answer: money & time in the spotlight.

 

[RACECAR]

I would have to agree with that, but I think they'll still be contenders for it as long as they don't screw over Truex Jr. (or Mark Martin for that matter)

I sure hope they don't, but I have a feeling the teresa's non involvement behind closed doors, which drove away Park, Waltrip and now Earnhardt Jr, may end up doing the same to Truex Jr, Menard, and sadly possibly Mark Martin.

I think he might be asking why are all the indycar drivers are heading to NASCAR.

Which is rather easy to answer: money & time in the spotlight.

You mean no one cares anymore if you've one the Indy 500 or the Indycar championship? I would think prize money from both coupled with the pretige of a crown jewel event would be enough, but I guess in a dying series and narrow minded fans, None of that matters Does it. And oh they will be getting the spotlight alright, with Hornish being the only one that'll be spared the good 'ole boy BS that rules NASCAR even in its recent years of diversification. And I just relized that most are on Dodge teams with Villenueve the only Toyota driver and CHip Ganassi now has two: one of them his old reliable driver and one who technically is not a newcomer to ovals, but is very talented and has the same accomplishments his teammate does.

 

[TS]

I sure hope they don't, but I have a feeling the teresa's non involvement behind closed doors, which drove away Park, Waltrip and now Earnhardt Jr, may end up doing the same to Truex Jr, Menard, and sadly possibly Mark Martin.

You really can't judge how much Teresa's involved in the company unless if you either work for DEI or have asked her about that.

But it does seem that she has Max Seigel and Steve Hmiel do all her dirty work, and apparently it drove Hmiel away from the company.

Plus, it was DW's affilation with Toyota that sort of forced Michael Waltrip away from DEI and to Bill Davis Racing and now to his own team.

You mean no one cares anymore if you've one the Indy 500 or the Indycar championship? I would think prize money from both coupled with the pretige of a crown jewel event would be enough, but I guess in a dying series and narrow minded fans, None of that matters Does it.

Ever since CART and the IRL split up in '95, the don't, which is a shame because before that split, CART was the biggest racing series in the US (yes, bigger than NASCAR) People filled the stands every race, the racing was competitive, the cars were awesome.

But then the two sides were divided on one issue: international expanding; one side wanted CART to go international while the other side wanted it to remain mostly American, (correct me if I'm wrong) which raised tensions and they split up into Champ Car and the Indy Racing league; now we have Champ Car that runs most of its events outside of the US and the Indy Car Series that runs mostly in the States.

 

[RACECAR]

Ever since CART and the IRL split up in '95, the don't, which is a shame because before that split, CART was the biggest racing series in the US (yes, bigger than NASCAR) People filled the stands every race, the racing was competitive, the cars were awesome.

But then the two sides were divided on one issue: international expanding; one side wanted CART to go international while the other side wanted it to remain mostly American, (correct me if I'm wrong) which raised tensions and they split up into Champ Car and the Indy Racing league; now we have Champ Car that runs most of its events outside of the US and the Indy Car Series that runs mostly in the States.

Hmmm, so that was the reason why. It may not look like it, but I bet looking at NASCAR's Popularity, they both wished they didn't split. I don't get why one side would have a problem with expanding the sport internationally. If anything, The side that was in favor had the right mindset. It sure is working with NASCAR(at least with the busch series Road races and the new drivers for Nextel Cup).

 

[somebody]

Can some explain to me please what is undertaking. Isn't it suppoused to happen alot in NASCAR?

I don't know about 'undertaking' in race terms but I imagine it would be similar to its road terminology; overtaking around the outside or 'slow' lane.

 

[Skid Mark 33]

Well, all I know is it is simalar to overtaking, but is also a bit different in a way, not sure!

 

[V1P3R]

I happened to catch Formula D and it turns out a Nascrap driver named Cook switched over to drifting because apparently he couldn't handle even Nascrap... Going into drifting sounds like a natural direction since Nascrap drivers seemed to have the "out of control" part of drifting down but even in Formula D he sucked. I don't know why someone gave him a viper to do it with either.

 

[RACECAR]

I happened to catch Formula D and it turns out a Nascrap driver named Cook switched over to drifting because apparently he couldn't handle even Nascrap... Going into drifting sounds like a natural direction since Nascrap drivers seemed to have the "out of control" part of drifting down but even in Formula D he sucked. I don't know why someone gave him a viper to do it with either.

I would really appreciate it if you (and hopefully some other sensible users) would stop with the "Nascrap" stuff in a Nascar thread. And this cook guy, I've never seen him anywhere in any of the Nascar santioned series.

 

[TS]

I would really appreciate it if you (and hopefully some other sensible users) would stop with the "Nascrap" stuff in a Nascar thread. And this cook guy, I've never seen him anywhere in any of the Nascar santioned series.

Terry Cook maybe? Even though the last I heard about him he was looking for a ride for the 2008 Truck season.

 

[RACECAR]

Say guys, what was your favorite NASCAR Road Course Race? I don't exactly have a favorite, but I'm curious to know what you guys think.

 

[TS]

Montreal for the win.

 

[thebtspecial]

Terry Cook maybe? Even though the last I heard about him he was looking for a ride for the 2008 Truck season.

On the Nopi show on Speedchannel, they said his name was Chris Cook. I don't know, never heard of him.