Need For Speed: Most Wanted (2005) Who Still Plays?

[Stephan]

How could that even be possible? You can't keep it past the race with razor

Try backreading. When @JASON_ROCKS1998 and @Sonygamer455 searched for hidden cars, we found the M3 GTR that was used in the prologue part of Most Wanted and because of that, it can be bought for 500K.

 

[Marc30599]

Try backreading. When @JASON_ROCKS1998 and @Sonygamer455 searched for hidden cars, we found the M3 GTR that was used in the prologue part of Most Wanted and because of that, it can be bought for 500K.

Oh yeah I saw that when I played through the PC version I was able to edit some code and make it appear in the car lot along with the quick race only cars too

 

[Sonygamer455]

You know I realized something earlier. When getting the 30 minute pursuit from the rap sheet done, it's actually easier to do it early in the game than it is later on. Reason for it is before beating Vic, your heat level cannot go beyond x2. Which makes it much easier since you don't have things like spike strips, rhino units or that stupid helicopter to worry about like you would later on. I already topped the pursuit length and cars immobilized before I even challenged Vic, so that's one less burden off my shoulders!

How about trying my challenge? The M3 GTR challenge where you need to complete Career Mode only with the M3 GTR. The M3 I'm referring to is the one you use before Razor took it.

Maybe somewhere down the road I will, but for now I am just wanting to play one career normally, then a hacked career afterwards. After that I will probably move to Carbon in time to celebrate it's 10th anniversary.

I wouldn't mind trying to beat the game Razor's Mustang. That would be fun!

Which brings me to something....

The car with the TP Temp350 name is the bonus 'Stang

I've driven it and while it is obviously quicker than the stock Mustang, it's still far slower than the standard Mustang if it was fully upgraded. Although it can still have all the visual upgrades that the standard Mustang can have.

Also the temp Mustang is the demo one that was used in the OPM Demos.

I wonder if that hidden Mustang really was Razor's ride in the demo, possibly Rog's car or if it was something else? Does anyone know?

 

[JakeMR2]

You know I realized something earlier. When getting the 30 minute pursuit from the rap sheet done, it's actually easier to do it early in the game than it is later on. Reason for it is before beating Vic, your heat level cannot go beyond x2. Which makes it much easier since you don't have things like spike strips, rhino units or that stupid helicopter to worry about like you would later on. I already topped the pursuit length and cars immobilized before I even challenged Vic, so that's one less burden off my shoulders!

Maybe somewhere down the road I will, but for now I am just wanting to play one career normally, then a hacked career afterwards. After that I will probably move to Carbon in time to celebrate it's 10th anniversary.

I wouldn't mind trying to beat the game Razor's Mustang. That would be fun!

Which brings me to something....

I wonder if that hidden Mustang really was Razor's ride in the demo, possibly Rog's car or if it was something else? Does anyone know?

That car is known as mustang_demo, I am probably guessing it's Rog's Mustang, which lacks the logos for the car. That is my prediction at least.

 

[Sonygamer455]

That car is known as mustang_demo, I am probably guessing it's Rog's Mustang, which lacks the logos for the car. That is my prediction at least.

Someone should get the demo and find out, because I would like to know personally. I wonder if their is any way to find out what Mustang Razor was using in the beginning in the final.

 

[Lilium]

You guys got me the crave to play this game once again using the cars I never Like there as a kid.

I know a few spots that make hiding from cops on actual chase actually pretty ease, with them standing 2m away from you. I'll try to get info on that once I can. One of them is near the central of the starting District. there's a main intersection, near the highway that has a water tank, and has a small alley short cut. If you go there speeding normally, above 150 KM/H, and if you swerve to the right and brake to not take the jump onto the Structure of the water tank, the police will go by, brake and press against the wall, and that place becomes a hiding spot. super effective even on heat lv 5, with 5 corvettes chasing you. Speed braker usually helps swerving and braking. If they do enter your side, just jump and take the tank down. rinse and repeat

Another one is that big Oval Mall. there one of the up walkways that proceed into a jump. if you brake before the jump, and after falling down on low speed, turn left if not mistaken, you can go into the parking lot, and once again, hiding spot, and the police is slow to react to this change in direction. rarely following you into the parking lot. if they do, all you have to do is run around the mall and repeat.


On the matters of cars, I always felt the 911 Turbo S was the best car, it had grip for days, great acceleration, and top speed wasn't shabby. that guy never drifted, and could shame an m3. (Pity that when you use the M3 the AI on the other racers enters the "speed slowly" and they automaticly get behind I never used the car due to that)
I never used the junkman parts as I liked having the car as "unbonused" as possible.

 

[Stephan]

You guys got me the crave to play this game once again using the cars I never Like there as a kid.

I know a few spots that make hiding from cops on actual chase actually pretty ease, with them standing 2m away from you. I'll try to get info on that once I can. One of them is near the central of the starting District. there's a main intersection, near the highway that has a water tank, and has a small alley short cut. If you go there speeding normally, above 150 KM/H, and if you swerve to the right and brake to not take the jump onto the Structure of the water tank, the police will go by, brake and press against the wall, and that place becomes a hiding spot. super effective even on heat lv 5, with 5 corvettes chasing you. Speed braker usually helps swerving and braking. If they do enter your side, just jump and take the tank down. rinse and repeat

Another one is that big Oval Mall. there one of the up walkways that proceed into a jump. if you brake before the jump, and after falling down on low speed, turn left if not mistaken, you can go into the parking lot, and once again, hiding spot, and the police is slow to react to this change in direction. rarely following you into the parking lot. if they do, all you have to do is run around the mall and repeat.


On the matters of cars, I always felt the 911 Turbo S was the best car, it had grip for days, great acceleration, and top speed wasn't shabby. that guy never drifted, and could shame an m3. (Pity that when you use the M3 the AI on the other racers enters the "speed slowly" and they automaticly get behind I never used the car due to that)
I never used the junkman parts as I liked having the car as "unbonused" as possible.

Junkman parts are not that unique since you can unlock them for your My Cars section. I actually didn't even touch any of the unique parts especially if your goal is to acquire all Blacklist cars.

 

[Lilium]

I never got interested in getting all the black list. I did though, because I always wanted the car to sell them for more money. :v Evil as a bank with mortgages to get.

But I loved to smoke my friends back then, when they too their cars with 10-12 extra small upgrades and we all
"****** mate, me car is da coolest and fustest ride in the stratosphere!", and I proceded to beat them every time

 

[Sonygamer455]

Well been playing a lot lately and I have been going for 100% career completion rather than just getting what's required to challenge a blacklist rival and moving on. I can remember Ming being quite a leap in terms of bounty back in the days, but now I apparently have gotten good enough at pursuits that I already have enough bounty before I even start on them. Heck I reached 10,000,000 bounty while I was on JV. I have to say their is a bit of a difficulty spike at Blacklist rival #5 and the AI is much harder than it was before. I am getting to where I don't even like the cops at heat level x4 and x5 as well. On another note, I really hate the drag race with JV and makes me glad that Carbon didn't include drag racing.

Also, been looking at Speedyheart's videos lately and is it just me, or does this demo MUCH better than the final?



Seems like I remember ya'll talking about it before, but what on earth happened during development and why didn't the final look this good?!

 

[JakeMR2]

Well been playing a lot lately and I have been going for 100% career completion rather than just getting what's required to challenge a blacklist rival and moving on. I can remember Ming being quite a leap in terms of bounty back in the days, but now I apparently have gotten good enough at pursuits that I already have enough bounty before I even start on them. Heck I reached 10,000,000 bounty while I was on JV. I have to say their is a bit of a difficulty spike at Blacklist rival #5 and the AI is much harder than it was before. I am getting to where I don't even like the cops at heat level x4 and x5 as well. On another note, I really hate the drag race with JV and makes me glad that Carbon didn't include drag racing.

Also, been looking at Speedyheart's videos lately and is it just me, or does this demo MUCH better than the final?



Seems like I remember ya'll talking about it before, but what on earth happened during development and why didn't the final look this good?!

That's emulation for you, Speedy uses very "high" end graphics for a PS2 emulator since I believe it is running in a HDMI source with a Core i7k with a GTX 980X. Thus, why the graphics look good.

 

[JakeMR2]

Sorry for double posting, but I figured out something to where you can replace your career cars with the Black List Racers ones.

Me and @Sonygamer455 we're talking about it in my profile, but all you need to know is the eight byte code with the correct tuning slot for the in-game career. This may work for once you replace your first car. For example. The tuning slot 02 belongs to Big Lou's Eclipse, with that all you need to know is the orientation for career or search the value with a live hex editor. It's easy, but it took some time to really figure out since once I added the car it was in the same tuning slot as the temp one.

I won't post a list since it is a search away.

 

[t3hgt3ftw1n]

Sorry for double posting, but I figured out something to where you can replace your career cars with the Black List Racers ones.

Me and @Sonygamer455 we're talking about it in my profile, but all you need to know is the eight byte code with the correct tuning slot for the in-game career. This may work for once you replace your first car. For example. The tuning slot 02 belongs to Big Lou's Eclipse, with that all you need to know is the orientation for career or search the value with a live hex editor. It's easy, but it took some time to really figure out since once I added the car it was in the same tuning slot as the temp one.

I won't post a list since it is a search away.

Actually, I have a guide (read: not mine at all, so I won't take the credit for it) on how you can edit your save data to have, pretty much, whatever you like. I added an entry to the car list that includes the hidden "Speedfreak" Street M3, and I've also added which hex values you can apply on the performance parts hex position.

(Here's a VirusTotal scan, just in case)

 

[Lilium]

Kind off topic, but I purchased the NFS: MW, and the MW reboot of 2012. as I'm trying to avoid playing on my tiny tv from 25 years ago, i started up the 2012 one, and oh my hello burnout paradise 2. Its kinda fun, in reaaaly shorts bursts, and online could be funner with more races, and clean races and car diversity. its just aventadors and veyrons. and Destruction derby fest...

 

[Sonygamer455]

Sorry for double posting, but I figured out something to where you can replace your career cars with the Black List Racers ones.

Me and @Sonygamer455 we're talking about it in my profile, but all you need to know is the eight byte code with the correct tuning slot for the in-game career. This may work for once you replace your first car. For example. The tuning slot 02 belongs to Big Lou's Eclipse, with that all you need to know is the orientation for career or search the value with a live hex editor. It's easy, but it took some time to really figure out since once I added the car it was in the same tuning slot as the temp one.

I won't post a list since it is a search away.

I take it you are referring to just the car code and the tune slot? The idea wasn't really to get the blacklist rivals cars, more like replace them with cars you want from "my cars" after winning them, thus taking advantage of the extra space.

Now that I think about it, changing the car code and the tune slot could indeed do it, but if you are trying to get one from your "my cars" list, I imagine it would appear in both career and my cars instead of one or the other however. I wish my computer wasn't broke, otherwise I would help.

 

[JakeMR2]

I take it you are referring to just the car code and the tune slot? The idea wasn't really to get the blacklist rivals cars, more like replace them with cars you want from "my cars" after winning them, thus taking advantage of the extra space.

Now that I think about it, changing the car code and the tune slot could indeed do it, but if you are trying to get one from your "my cars" list, I imagine it would appear in both career and my cars instead of one or the other however. I wish my computer wasn't broke, otherwise I would help.

It should work the exact same way, but the career slots from my save on the PC version go from 01-07. The tuning slot determines whether the car is from the blacklist or just a bonus. The idea was to take advantage of the career since I am still trying to find Ronnie's Supra RZ and if I am right about this, Razor's Mustang from the Prologue is 24.

I'll have to check, but sorry if I misunderstood what you were going for.

Edit 1:
Now I understand, so you take your chosen car from my cars and make it for career instead..? For example. Let's use my custom Golf from My Cars {04} change that to a Career Slot {02} and put a slot of {08} to make it fit with career?

 

[Sonygamer455]

It should work the exact same way, but the career slots from my save on the PC version go from 01-07.

Surely it can go higher since you can get all the black list cars in your garage?

The tuning slot determines whether the car is from the blacklist or just a bonus.

That's the cars location. The tune slot contains the data for the customizations you applied to the car.

and if I am right about this, Razor's Mustang from the Prologue is 24.

Say what?! They have his car in the game already pretuned? How intriguing. I still wonder though, is his Mustang the "normal one" we all know or is it the demo variant? Maybe we can find out now.....

I'll have to check, but sorry if I misunderstood what you were going for.

Truthfully I am struggling to explain it properly since their are many ways it can be explained.

 

[JakeMR2]

Surely it can go higher since you can get all the black list cars in your garage?

That's the cars location. The tune slot contains the data for the customizations you applied to the car.

Say what?! They have his car in the game already pretuned? How intriguing. I still wonder though, is his Mustang the "normal one" we all know or is it the demo variant? Maybe we can find out now.....

Truthfully I am struggling to explain it properly since their are many ways it can be explained.

From what I can tell from the tuning variants on the location of stuff, I have yet to put every car in my garage to the point to where it is around 25 or 30 slots since career can only take that much.

The tuning slots is what I am fiddling around with at the moment, so that I can probably make the code for the game just to add a car to your liking. A lot of cars are pre-tuned already, but I wonder if I can find pre-sets with them maybe the demo ones are still there. Who knows. I always thought the Blacklist cars were obtainable to a certain degree, but I have around 78 tuning slots to go through, so why not experiment with it and maybe bring a car from My Cars into the Career Mode.

 

[Sonygamer455]

From what I can tell from the tuning variants on the location of stuff, I have yet to put every car in my garage to the point to where it is around 25 or 30 slots since career can only take that much.

I have nearly every blacklist car in my garage except Bull's McLaren and the BMW in my current career. I will try messing around with it when my computer is fixed, or if I get a new one.

The tuning slots is what I am fiddling around with at the moment, so that I can probably make the code for the game just to add a car to your liking. A lot of cars are pre-tuned already, but I wonder if I can find pre-sets with them maybe the demo ones are still there.

I hope maybe then we can find some other pretuned cars from the demo and maybe some completely unused ones as well.

Who knows. I always thought the Blacklist cars were obtainable to a certain degree, but I have around 78 tuning slots to go through, so why not experiment with it and maybe bring a car from My Cars into the Career Mode.

You can make then available in the stock car list. The same could also be said with the Black Edition exclusive cars, even if you don't even have the Black Edition.

 

[Stephan]

While I was watching NFSMW '05 videos in YT, I found one video involving the final pursuit and somehow, he experienced a bug where instead of using the M3 GTR you won from Razor, you use the car that you used against Razor. Did someone experience this bug before?

 

[JakeMR2]

While I was watching NFSMW '05 videos in YT, I found one video involving the final pursuit and somehow, he experienced a bug where instead of using the M3 GTR you won from Razor, you use the car that you used against Razor. Did someone experience this bug before?

I believe once you beat the game once, the game doesn't read the BL GTR function, so it loads the car you used to beat Razor. It probably wasn't Black Box's intention, but I am guessing it's a glitch.

 

[Stephan]

I believe once you beat the game once, the game doesn't read the BL GTR function, so it loads the car you used to beat Razor. It probably wasn't Black Box's intention, but I am guessing it's a glitch.

Too late for that. It is a glitch. If you have a full garage (let's say 10 cars is the maximum amount of cars you can have), the game will not be able to load the M3 GTR to your garage since its full. But it can be a good way to experience Heat Level 6 with any car you want to use.

 

[Sonygamer455]

Well I beat the game about a week ago and maxed out the rap sheet, was pretty okay playing through it again I guess. I have all, but the challenge series done now. I am not even going to bother doing the challenge series because its way too hard and in the end, all you get are two cars you can't customize normally. I am just going to use Codebreaker cheats to have it completed because that's just not worth my time or frustration for two cars I can only use in quick race....

I would be starting my "hacked career", but since my computer is currently being fixed, I can't do my basic hex editing until I get it back. So I am going to hold off until then, hopefully it won't be too long.

That's emulation for you, Speedy uses very "high" end graphics for a PS2 emulator since I believe it is running in a HDMI source with a Core i7k with a GTX 980X. Thus, why the graphics look good.

Wow, I didn't even think about that. I didn't even know they could be that good either! It's a mystery to me how they manage to run the game so well, mine lags like crazy.

One thing that intrigues me is, what happens if you use the "never get busted" cheat on the final pursuit and then stay and wait at the debris blocking the road to the bridge, will it disappear in front of my eyes? I may actually try that out sometime and see what happens.

 

[JR98]

So I was playing through this once more on PC, and when I got to Jewels it would not let me progress any further. Once I beat Earl, which took 7 attempts because of his OP catch-up, and collected reward cards (I ended up having to beating him twice as my game crashed after I beat him once and got a pink slip reward), both of which were useless, I switched off my PC. Came back and when I checked Jewel's blacklist page it said I had defeated her, but I had no races or milestones completed. I thought it was just a visual bug so I went through the 5 events and got the milestones. I then got the SMS call from Rog telling me Jewels was ready to race but I go to the Blacklist page and there's no option to challenge her. Usually it says "Press 2 to Challenge Blacklist Racer" (or somehting like that) but that didn't show and there's no #7 Blacklist Racer available.

I have this annoying feeling I'm going to have to start the game all over again.

 

[Sonygamer455]

Well, I started my hacked career a few days ago and I am going to pretty much play through again with cheats, hacks and all that good stuff. Once I am done, I am going to Carbon afterwards. This should be fun!

Here is how I started my career:

Spoiler: My "hacked" Garage

Taxi. From the challenge series. Using it as a "starter car" for a while, then move to something faster later on.

Pickup. Also from the challenge series. Same as above, maybe for pursuits too.

Garbage Truck. From the challenge series as well. Using this one for pursuits since it is very tough at busting through roadblocks.

BMW M3 GTR. Who doesn't want this at the beginning? For races mainly.

Police Civic Cruiser. Got to have at least one cop in the garage. For races and I guess pursuits.

Razor's Mustang. He took my BMW, so I took his Mustang!

Speedtest BMW M3 GTR Street Version. For pretty much everything. It has junkman tuning.

Camper. To those that don't know, it's an ai vehicle with no collision mesh, so it can drive through walls! For fun mainly, however I discovered that using the drive through walls cheat prevents it from crashing the game like most ai cars do. So I guess I'll use it in pursuits too.

Truck without trailer. You can't see it too well, but it's a hidden fully playable truck that was possibly mean't to be used in the challenge series, but wasn't. It's no AI vehicle so it doesn't crash the game. Probably use it for pursuits.

Civil Car. For fun mainly.

So I was playing through this once more on PC, and when I got to Jewels it would not let me progress any further. Once I beat Earl, which took 7 attempts because of his OP catch-up, and collected reward cards (I ended up having to beating him twice as my game crashed after I beat him once and got a pink slip reward), both of which were useless, I switched off my PC. Came back and when I checked Jewel's blacklist page it said I had defeated her, but I had no races or milestones completed. I thought it was just a visual bug so I went through the 5 events and got the milestones. I then got the SMS call from Rog telling me Jewels was ready to race but I go to the Blacklist page and there's no option to challenge her. Usually it says "Press 2 to Challenge Blacklist Racer" (or somehting like that) but that didn't show and there's no #7 Blacklist Racer available.

I have this annoying feeling I'm going to have to start the game all over again.

Earl is good at keeping up. I really am not sure what to tell you. That's never happened to me before. Try beating all the milestones and races she has to offer and see if it works I guess.

 

[MoLiEG]

I was looking at this thread yesterday, and you guys inspired me ...I decided to start a new career Currently on my way to beat Blacklist No.13

 

[JakeMR2]

So.. at a local Flea Market I found 007: From Russia With Love to play the PS2 demo of Need For Speed: Most Wanted... and, I hate to say it but it is just better when it comes to vinyls and such. Some races are broken due to map, and since Cash Grab is a thing in the demo. Some of the sprints are just checkpoint races, similar to MC3 in a way, so. I think we may need to get that into PC somehow..

Here are a few images on a real PS2 with the main menu Felipe found.

Spoiler: Demo

 

[Nexus]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the fastest car (in terms of topspeed) is? The highest speed that I've reached was in a Ford GT, with the Junkman parts installed. It reached 242 MPH, but the gearing prevented it from going faster. The second fastest was with the Carrera GT (241 MPH), also with the Junkman parts and limited by the gearing.

 

[JR98]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the fastest car (in terms of topspeed) is? The highest speed that I've reached was in a Ford GT, with the Junkman parts installed. It reached 242 MPH, but the gearing prevented it from going faster. The second fastest was with the Carrera GT (241 MPH), also with the Junkman parts and limited by the gearing.

I think it might be the Murcielago. Never tried reaching its top speed with junkman parts (fastest I've been in it is around 220MPH) but it definitely looks like it is capable of around 240MPH.

 

[Sage Ages]

The M3 tops out at 248mph if I remember correctly.

 

[Stephan]

The M3 can go over 239 mph (385km/h) but some say that it can get a top speed of 242 mph (389km/h). This video may help on the M3's top speed though.