need help

[QSpec]

none of my cars that i currently have are fast enough to beat the last series of races in the proffesional events. the fastest cars i own are the mercedez benz clk race car '98, cien, and zonda c12s. i am allowed in the endurance race, and just wasted 60 laps of some track to win a car i already own (the audi union v16). anyway, i have started doing the sarthe 1&2 24hr endurance race, but stopped after the first lap of each one because i knew i wasnt going to win. any suggestions on the easiest way to get a fast enough car that can take on the nissan rc(something)p race car?

oh and i have seen the prize car list available, but im not sure on some of the names

 

[AMG.]

none of my cars that i currently have are fast enough to beat the last series of races in the proffesional events. the fastest cars i own are the mercedez benz clk race car '98, cien, and zonda c12s.

Hi Qspec, welcome to GTP 👍

Few tips: Try to provide a more descriptive thread title & details of your issue.
I had to look up what the last race was. You're referring to GTWC.
Answer: try using the advanced search button. Type in GTWC (thread titles only) and you will be provided with lots of info that will enable you to win this race. Anything more powerful than e.g. the Chapparal 2J should easily win this series for you.

If you have an issue with fast AI cars, try finding an easier line-up. Some lineups are tougher than others.

The stickied FAQs also contain a wealth of information for you. I'm convinced they'll answer just about every question you have.

Try to refrain from double posting, use the edit button instead.
May you enjoy your stay here at GTP.

AMG.

 

[QSpec]

sorry about this, it was after 2am and i just did a pointless endurance race and was a little upset lol. basically, i am trying to finish all of the proffesional event races. unfortunately i cannot beat the cars on the very last series of that (proffesional) event. what i am trying to do is find some other race in the game that gives me a prize car that is fast enough to finish my goal. i found out my weddsport celica is fast enough to do most of the endurance races available so i'm knocking the ones i can get out. anyway, sorry for the inconvenience, like i said it was after 2am and i was a little annoyed.

 

[Duke]

Take something reasonable to the El Capitan 200. Win the Totyota 88C-V. Stock, with R3 tires in front and R2 tires in back, the 88C-V will beat the GT World Championship. You won't get many A-spec points, but it will work.

 

[QSpec]

oh i dont care about a-spec. points. im just trying to conquer the world as fast as humanly possible. i like doing what i have to do to win at first, then enjoying the cars i have.

 

[Hypnotoad]

The CLK-GTR can't win the GTWC!??

It laps highspeed ring in under a minute. :\

 

[Famine]

The CLK-GTR can't win the GTWC!??

It laps highspeed ring in under a minute. :\

It can... But the Motul Pitwork Z can win the GTWC too. It just requires a mix of tactics and a little skill.

 

[Duke]

oh i dont care about a-spec. points. im just trying to conquer the world as fast as humanly possible. i like doing what i have to do to win at first, then enjoying the cars i have.

I don't find the scenery good enough to be worth sightseeing my way through every race in an overkill car. You have to spend a lot of hours simply getting through GT4, even if you use the easiest, fastest car possible. So to me they're wasted hours if it's not a reasonably close race.

But, if getting to 100% as easily as possible paddles your canoe, by all means, do it your way.

The CLK-GTR can't win the GTWC!??
It laps highspeed ring in under a minute. :\

It can, but it's tough to do so, and it takes skill (or willingness to drive dirty) that I just don't have.

It can... But the Motul Pitwork Z can win the GTWC too. It just requires a mix of tactics and a little skill.

^^^ What he said.

I'm actually quite unimpressed by the CLK-GTR. I first tried it in the GTWC and it was hopeless. Then again, I had to drive my 88C-V to win, for a lousy handful of A-spec points. With the Minolta Toyota, many races were a blowout (El Capitan, Grand Valley, Suzuka, Seoul), but some were relatively tight (Paris Opera, Hong Kong, and New York).

I then tried to use the CLK-GTR at the World Circuits race in Motegi, where it fared very poorly again. I chalked that up to being rusty at Motegi, and went on to Sears Point (Infineon), a track I know very well and normally devastate the AI on. The CLK didn't last 9 laps on the stock R3s, and although I was in the lead thanks to staying out of the pits, I lost on the last lap when the tires overcooked. Stepping down to R2s just meant that I never gained the lead. The math tells me that moving up to R4s and pitting halfway through wouldn't have given me enough speed to make up for the pit.

 

[Stevisiov]

If you need more advice try this, it probably covers everything possible on the GTWC
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=56883

I did it in the Jaguar XJ220 race car, but there are much faster cars if you are struggling.

 

[QSpec]

lol, iv owned the game since it came out. im just doing this because i want to have the game completed on my ps3, that way i dont have to go back to my ps2 to enjoy it. anyway, i have the minolta now and have it running the sarthe 2 24hr as we speak so i can get the bentley speed 8. the car pits every 15 minutes so i have to go check on it and put it back on fast forward. thanks for the tip on the minolta car and the tire package, its running lovely (uses a lot of gas in-between pit stops).

 

[Alfaholic]

Errr.... if you're gonna b-spec it, then rather put the Minolta in the Nurburgring 24 hours (R3 on front and R2 on back otherwise he'll keep missing the pit entrance). The Minolta will murder that race and win you an FGT, which doesn't care about huge mileages. Set the rear toe on the FGT to 0 or -1 to cure excessive rear tyre wear, then use that to b-spec the De La Sarthe Enduros and the GTWC.

The FGT pits more often than, say, and Audi R8, so is not as fast in real time in b-spec (since as long as it's sitting in the pits time passes at 1x) but the FGT will win the lot.

 

[QSpec]

okay, ill do that next. thanks for all the help.

 

[shangoob]

I used the Audi R8 to win that race ,but didnt complete all tracks , I think I miss three tracks
but any way, don't try to do any mistake (like hitting wall ,cars)
If really want to win then you must test all tracks ,just to know the easy tracks and the hards one .

you must be patient .maybe you will not get the 1st place until the lap 13th
like (Hong Kong) and believe me B-spec is suck in this track I try it with 88C-V and it got 6th

regards

shangoob

 

[Denovae]

I used the Audi R8 to win that race ,but didnt complete all tracks , I think I miss three tracks
but any way, don't try to do any mistake (like hitting wall ,cars)
If really want to win then you must test all tracks ,just to know the easy tracks and the hards one .

you must be patient .maybe you will not get the 1st place until the lap 13th
like (Hong Kong) and believe me B-spec is suck in this track I try it with 88C-V and it got 6th

regards

shangoob

B-spec on Hong Kong will lose nearly everytime with Group C Race Cars untill your machine skill is above 90. Even then you need to do the turbo upgrade to be able to compete. Once you get to 95 machine skill and above 85 course skill you can do B-Spec w/o the turbo upgrade and you'll be just fine. Getting 95+ machine skill and 85 course skill on B-spec is another task within itself. That you won't get by just racing on B-spec and leaving it on 3 or 4 with a tuned car.

 

[shangoob]

B-spec on Hong Kong will lose nearly everytime with Group C Race Cars untill your machine skill is above 90. Even then you need to do the turbo upgrade to be able to compete. Once you get to 95 machine skill and above 85 course skill you can do B-Spec w/o the turbo upgrade and you'll be just fine. Getting 95+ machine skill and 85 course skill on B-spec is another task within itself. That you won't get by just racing on B-spec and leaving it on 3 or 4 with a tuned car.

I finished 74.xx % on GT4 ,and I dont remember my Machine skill or course skill, but I still can't complete that Hong Kong with B-spec,even my A-spec is better than B-spec

note: Is there any way to improve my Machine and course skill

regards

shangoob

 

[BobK]

The fundamental reason that people have problems with the GTWC is it's the first race series they encounter (and one of the few series in the game) that they can't win simply by bolting on a bigger turbo. Therefore it's the first series that requires decent driving skills, compounded by the fact that the LMP/Group C cars are more difficult to drive than, say, a touring car or JGTC car. Furthermore it's probably their first series where pit strategy is an important factor (touring cars and JGTC's in the El Capitan enduro don't need much of a pit strategy).

I've B-specced the GTWC with the Formula GT a couple times. I've also A-specced it with a used Mazda 787B and Audi R8 and didn't have any real difficulty, and believe me, I'm not a great driver. But I did struggle with it my first couple times (which is why I B-specced it ).

With regard to B-spec, Shangoob, the definitive thread is here, particularly this post.

 

[Hypnotoad]

The merc can become unstable at high speed, but I found when I went back and tried it, I could compete without having to be too defensive in most of the courses, but I do admit it takes alot of concentration to drive, I think it's just one of those cars I stepped into and could drive immidiately.

And on the flip-side, no matter the settings I still can't drive the F1's for toffee, against any human player here I'd probably lose emphatically! Thank Robbie the AI just isn't up to it.

 

[blenk]

i have to admit i had a lot of truble getting passed this and its harder is you use b-spec because the driver dusnt take risks you can take, i used the toyota minolta 88c-v race car, which i got from the El Capitan 200miles endurance race. i also tuned the car, and if you want more c class cars when you have played 700 game days then there are 44 black ones come up in the used car garage cnt remember the prices but they arnt the normal 4.5mill good luck

 

[Denovae]

With regard to B-spec, Shangoob, the definitive thread is here, particularly this post.

pretty much to increase machine skill, take cars of various hp ( all stock, non-tuned, oil unchanged if bought used ), and then go to practice a-spec a couple laps then have b-sec take over and try to beat your times. when you start reaching high 90's in machine and course skill you b-spec will be close ( around 1sec behind me ) to you as a driver if you're decent.

 

[QSpec]

sounds good ^ didnt even know gt4 did that.


Edit: I just finished the 24hr Sarthe2 race and after i clicked OK to accept the car the game froze. Sigh.

 

[Stevisiov]

Ever since I read Famine's post I have had the burning desire to try and win the GTWC in the Motul Pitwork Z, I am off to try it now.

 

[Duke]

Actually, look for the race report by Old Geezer, who unfortunately doesn't come around much any more. He was a master at winning races with lesser cars. He also beat the FGT with a Sauber C9, among other races.

 

[Stevisiov]

Actually, look for the race report by Old Geezer, who unfortunately doesn't come around much any more. He was a master at winning races with lesser cars. He also beat the FGT with a Sauber C9, among other races.

I have just tried it, luckily I had a Motul Pitwork in the garage, I didn't have enough money to tune it up as I am fairly liberal with my spending. Its a tough one having only 504BHP against that lot I have no idea how he won it. I have only done the qualifying then skipped the races so far just to get a feel for how much faster i need to drive here is the qualifying so far:

Tokyo: 4th place ahead of CLK-GTR and Gillet Virtigo, but 1.5 seconds behind 88-CV, leader.

Superspeedway: last by over 2.5 seconds, alot on such a small track

Hong Kong:3rd half a second off the R92CP, I was beating the time by o.3 seconds until I ran into traffic(GILLET and CLK)

El Capitain:1st by over 3.5 seconds, I have no idea how my 504BHP JGTC with racing mediums can beat and 88-CV race car by such a large margin, they just don't appear to attack any of the corners.

That is all so far, My car is UN-tuned, except for the super hard tyres(which i haven't used yet, and an oil change. I really don't know how this guy won most of those races!?

If people want proof, I would like to ask how I should provide it. Do i need a Max drive thing, or will digital camera recording suffice?

I will try the other races soon and report back.

[edit] I have found his race report, he used a turbo, 973BHP he ran it on, i think I will try that.

 

[Hypnotoad]

He won with a stock pitwork Z?? I don't see how either, it goes beyond flawless driving. That's a Jedi car for that tourney, and I doubt I could win it in that. :\

It's a great car though.

 

[Stevisiov]

He won with a stock pitwork Z?? I don't see how either, it goes beyond flawless driving. That's a Jedi car for that tourney, and I doubt I could win it in that. :\

It's a great car though.

I did indeed, I will try my DIGI to video it. El Capitain was surprisingly straight forward, you need lap times averaging below 1:34 when your opponents are the Minolta or the R92CP.

Unfortunatly I do not have a Max, drive, if anyone can suggest a better way to provide evidence please do.

The car stock with oil change provides 509BHP, racing medium tyres, My setup was as follows: everything as it comes when you win it except. I slide the gear ratio down to 13 on the auto bar, I set front and rear downforce to full, I changes all driving aids to zero.

An odd observation I made was that, My opponents had faster times in the race than in qualifying, weird!?

 

[Hypnotoad]

I believe it can be done, I just figure it'd take the right set up and very defensive driving, though I can see why el capitan was easy, the LM's and group C's struggle to get their power down there and slow down too much.

 

[Denovae]

I believe it can be done, I just figure it'd take the right set up and very defensive driving, though I can see why el capitan was easy, the LM's and group C's struggle to get their power down there and slow down too much.

The AI on captain sucks for all cars. the uphill/downhill left/right S-curve can be done a hell of a lot faster than the AI does it. It's usually where I'll make up a good chunk of time whenever bored and messing around in family cups on +10.

 

[Stevisiov]

I believe it can be done, I just figure it'd take the right set up and very defensive driving, though I can see why el capitan was easy, the LM's and group C's struggle to get their power down there and slow down too much.

I agree, I don't understand why the AI can't beat me, a track like El Capitain a group C should destroy my car, very long straigts, fast corners, its hardly the tight technical track you would expect them to struggle on yet, no defensive driving is needed, I won by a margin of 10.5 seconds, on an 11 lap race. I was against the Sauber which appears to be the fastes of the group C cars on this track.

I am just about to record a video proof, then I will try another track. Also should I put this in a race report thread? i might even try a DTM car.

I have just recorded it on my camera, I am going to put it into a race report, but I am not sure how to upload the video, any help would be appreciated.

 

[ving]

spend 4 million on the pescar... (french race car what ever it is), add a bigger turbo (dont have to get the biggest) and b'spec the thing. qualify for each race. easy done!

 

[Stevisiov]

spend 4 million on the pescar... (french race car what ever it is), add a bigger turbo (dont have to get the biggest) and b'spec the thing. qualify for each race. easy done!

And that my friend is boring.