need help

[QSpec]

Since the game froze after winning the 24hr race I've decided to retire Gran Turismo 4. After all, I succesfully downloaded GT:HD. That will keep be busy until 5 comes out.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Man, anyone who needs a turbo to win in an LMP can't be that fast a driver...

No offence...

 

[Stevisiov]

Man, anyone who needs a turbo to win in an LMP can't be that fast a driver...

No offence...

I agree, why not take my stance, get a Motul Pitwork Z, don't bother tuning it, then try and win, it is a lot more fun that way.👍

 

[Alfaholic]

Man, anyone who needs a turbo to win in an LMP can't be that fast a driver...

No offence...

Too true! Most b-spec Bobs aren't fast drivers

 

[Hypnotoad]

Aye hahaha, you give them a Sauber with all the power of the universe and they still struggle to pull of a sub 1 minute on high speed ring. Haha.

 

[Stevisiov]

Right I have made my race report now, it is still unfinished in the series, but still, hopefully it is an interesting read.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2693730#post2693730

 

[ving]

And that my friend is boring.

... with so many people getting stuck on this series its a cheap way out so the extreme hall can be opened. theres no rule saying that you cant come back later and do it agian in a more challenging car (slower)... as i often do.💡

 

[Hypnotoad]

That b spec comment, contradicts your 'what, don't you like a challenge?' comment in the 'what do you look for in a car' thread, y'know...

 

[ving]

ya! cheeky brat

like i said, sderies is obviously a pain in teh butt, but you can come back to it if yer want!... not as much a pain in the butt as a stalker tho

 

[Hypnotoad]

Hahaha, well there's nothing quite like that!!

First time I did the GTWC I used a Minolta, at first I used the turbo, but by the end of the first race I was gagging to take it out. Stock with a turbo just thrown in it can kick out and murder you at any moment.

In any case, I've kinda grown to using cars with stock hp. I'm thinking of trying a JGTC car, but I want to try something different to the awesome Motul...

 

[Stevisiov]

Hahaha, well there's nothing quite like that!!

First time I did the GTWC I used a Minolta, at first I used the turbo, but by the end of the first race I was gagging to take it out. Stock with a turbo just thrown in it can kick out and murder you at any moment.

In any case, I've kinda grown to using cars with stock hp. I'm thinking of trying a JGTC car, but I want to try something different to the awesome Motul...

If you try it stock, I would count on it being very tricky indeed, if you make sure your against fast opponents, then every race will easily be 200Aspec points, you have to be a pretty good driver though. Go for the Takata Dome NSX, that is certainly one of the faster JGTC cars.

 

[Alfaholic]

An odd observation I made was that, My opponents had faster times in the race than in qualifying, weird!?

Could be because of tyre wear? The AI tends to speed up a lot when it's tyres go to green. Certainly if you run a qualifying session for long enough their times seem to get better as they go on, which would suggest that keeping in a qualifying session until all the AI pit might give a closer indication of their race pace.

But perhaps they go faster than that as well. Half the time I think that they learn the circuit as they go along as they all invariably make daft mistakes in the first lap or two and then seem to get more consistent as the race goes on. So I sometimes wonder if they aren't actually following a specific driving line laid out in the circuit like a railway track, but instead are navigating with some kind of algorithm which takes its cues from the track edges or something and just learns as it goes.

Sorry if all this was stating the obvious...

 

[Famine]

If you try it stock, I would count on it being very tricky indeed, if you make sure your against fast opponents, then every race will easily be 200Aspec points, you have to be a pretty good driver though. Go for the Takata Dome NSX, that is certainly one of the faster JGTC cars.

Second fastest, behind the Motul Pitwork Z, is the Xanavi Hiroto Skyline '03.

 

[Stevisiov]

It would be interesting to try it in a DTM car, that would be tricky.

 

[Duke]

First time I did the GTWC I used a Minolta, at first I used the turbo, but by the end of the first race I was gagging to take it out. In any case, I've kinda grown to using cars with stock hp.

Power is usually the last thing I add, except for very mild upgrades just to bring a good car down a second or two per lap.

Could be because of tyre wear? The AI tends to speed up a lot when it's tyres go to green.

So I sometimes wonder if they aren't actually following a specific driving line laid out in the circuit like a railway track, but instead are navigating with some kind of algorithm which takes its cues from the track edges or something and just learns as it goes.

The AI seems programmed to drive the car in absolutely stock conditions on optimal tires, and any deviation from that screws them up. This was clear when I was driving the World Circuits race in the CLK-GTR. The lead opponent was the R92C. Starting from 6th and driving cleanly, I was able to get within a second or 2 of him in the first 3 laps or so. However, at that point, his tires hit optimal green, and he'd widen out an 8-10 second gap in the next 3 laps, then fall back a little before pitting in.

If you put B-spec Bob in a modified car, he has a very hard time dealing with the differing responses of the car.

 

[Hypnotoad]

'Xanavi Hiroto Skyline '03' is that the silver and red Skyline??

I actually beat a TS020 online on Forza with one of those once... Different game entirely I know, but maybe it's a sign?? O.o

I doubt even the AI could drive as bad as the fella' I was up against!!

 

[Duke]

I actually beat a TS020 online on Forza with one of those once...

In GT3 board competitions, I know several people who beat the AI-driven TS020 in three laps around Seattle - in a full-build Integra Type R.

 

[Hypnotoad]

In GT3 board competitions, I know several people who beat the AI-driven TS020 in three laps around Seattle - in a full-build Integra Type R.

I bet that was only 'cause the Toyota was running on Michellins, a crumb hit them, and they exploded.

 

[Famine]

In GT3 board competitions, I know several people who beat the AI-driven TS020 in three laps around Seattle - in a full-build Integra Type R.

*raises hand*

I was that soldier. I did that race, a number of times in excess of several. My best race time came from a 3rd place finish, behind the TS020 GT-One and R390 GT1 (but ahead of the 787B), but I did stick it in 1st once or twice.

It shortened my lifespan quite alarmingly.

 

[FoolKiller]

lol, iv owned the game since it came out. im just doing this because i want to have the game completed on my ps3, that way i dont have to go back to my ps2 to enjoy it. anyway, i have the minolta now and have it running the sarthe 2 24hr as we speak so i can get the bentley speed 8. the car pits every 15 minutes so i have to go check on it and put it back on fast forward. thanks for the tip on the minolta car and the tire package, its running lovely (uses a lot of gas in-between pit stops).

I know you said you were giving this up, but 10 cars on one track will get a bit boring after a while, no matter how pretty.

Really, it seems to me the $15 for the memory card adaptor is worth it rather than doing this. If you lived in Kentucky I'd let you borrow mine.

Power is usually the last thing I add, except for very mild upgrades just to bring a good car down a second or two per lap.

I just buy every part for a car and then do what tuning needs to be done for each specific race. Rarely do I ever end up with an NA Tune or turbo put into the car. However, the few times I do need those it is because I am hopelessly outmatched and I refuse to accept my loss. I believe a '96 3000GT in the Japanese Championship was the last time I tried this. Unfortunately, my refusal to add a wing for downforce proved my undoing. Although I did win the first two races at 160 pts each.

 

[Duke]

I ran that one too, as a backup, for GTP. My time was beaten by Boombexus, who also regularly beat the TS020 for first place. It was a white-knuckle ride, too, with board comp no-contact rules in effect.

 

[Famine]

I ran that one too, as a backup, for GTP. My time was beaten by Boombexus, who also regularly beat the TS020 for first place. It was a white-knuckle ride, too, with board comp no-contact rules in effect.

I was just thinking who I was up against - I recall it being boombexus and I think sukerkin ran it too (though I may be mistaken).

I think we eventually ran with a "3 taps and you're out" rule - but it was certainly an absolute hair-raiser. Or hair-loser in my case.

 

[sukerkin]

That certainly sounds scarily familiar, Famine .