NEEED HEEELP! Lap Attack Time - Dragon Trails.
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Get out of your own head.
Its very, very easy to take corners the same way every time, to decide that it's the optimal way and that the issue is something else.
Watch some replays (not one, but many) and see what the quicker racers do different to you and each other. Something as simple as turning in earlier and taking more curb can often increase (or decrease) the end result/time hugely.
If what you're doing right now isn't working, try doing something else.
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Practicing a lot lol
Doing that too and also competing with the ghost of my best time
You right. Only thing I've noticed is that most tutorials i've seen is people using steering wheel not controller.
But im trying to match as much as I can. I'll get it eventually
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Are you using any assists? Typically I run TCS 2 but at times will go down to 1 or off completely depending on the car. This particular CE was one I had a ton of difficulty with, this one, Spa, and Laguna were the bane of my existence until I was finally able to get them after the countless times Sarah told me “Good work!” after running off track at the first corner
I think Dragontrail was the track that made me switch from AT to MT. I got the game in December and before then hadn’t played any games for a good 3 or 4 years, I used MT in GTS but eased back in with GT7, but I notice my lap times are significantly faster using MT. I feel I have a better control of the car, especially coming out of corners using MT over AT.
Watch the demo and look for landmarks that the demo uses for braking and try to keep a mental note of what gear they stay in through certain corners. A corner you’re taking in 2nd might be faster if you take it in 3rd.
Finally, one thing I’m guilty of is paying too much attention to either the demo ghost or my own personal ghost. I’m rarely ever ahead of the demo ghost so it’s not as distracting, but at times I find myself paying too much attention to where my personal best ghost is at and next thing I know I’ve run into a wall. I mapped R3 to toggle the ghost during the lap so I can turn it off and just focus on driving, then in straights I may toggle it on to see how that attempt is going along, but even doing it then has cost me at times. Sometimes it’s best just to ignore your personal best, especially if it already wasn’t fast enough, put that attention into finding how to make the next one faster.
I think Dragontrail was the track that made me switch from AT to MT. I got the game in December and before then hadn’t played any games for a good 3 or 4 years, I used MT in GTS but eased back in with GT7, but I notice my lap times are significantly faster using MT. I feel I have a better control of the car, especially coming out of corners using MT over AT.
Watch the demo and look for landmarks that the demo uses for braking and try to keep a mental note of what gear they stay in through certain corners. A corner you’re taking in 2nd might be faster if you take it in 3rd.
Finally, one thing I’m guilty of is paying too much attention to either the demo ghost or my own personal ghost. I’m rarely ever ahead of the demo ghost so it’s not as distracting, but at times I find myself paying too much attention to where my personal best ghost is at and next thing I know I’ve run into a wall. I mapped R3 to toggle the ghost during the lap so I can turn it off and just focus on driving, then in straights I may toggle it on to see how that attempt is going along, but even doing it then has cost me at times. Sometimes it’s best just to ignore your personal best, especially if it already wasn’t fast enough, put that attention into finding how to make the next one faster.
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On that front - if you're a dab hand at tinkering, replace the stock thumb sticks (or extend them) with longer ones. Plenty of guides on YouTube to do this.
The shorter the thumb stick is the less you have to move your thumb to go from 0% input to 50% input in any direction, but that also means it's harder to finesse the thumb stick and apply a gradual increase. This is why a lot of controller users have jerky movements - they aim for a slight adjustment in one direction and overshoot it because the input jumps from 0% to 10% and beyond quicker than they expect.
If you extend or use slightly longer thumbsticks, it requires more input to go from 0% to 100%, which in turn makes it easier to apply input gradually and with more accuracy.
This also benefits any game that requires precision input.
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But are you using that practice to actually learn?
You should be able with that amount of "practice" to see where the ghost is making time on you, is it braking later at a given corner? Is it carrying more speed in a certain section? Is it on the power earlier sacrificing entry speed for exit speed?
How long did you spend getting gold on the sectors? I'd go back and revisit them
A tip for you to help analyse where you can improve is this.
Do a few laps chasing the ghost and do a console gameplay recording of the session. This lets you watch a replay of you and the ghost (downside is it's fixed camera)
But you can use this to compare your lap with the demonstration lap to see the differences.
Good advice here. In my personal opinion just practicing and to keep trying over and over without any other input doesn't work for me.
Watching replays and then trying to implement what they do as best as I can is my personal way to success (gold in all single player content and most online time trials) as a mediocre pad player.
Try using as few assists as possible other than ABS (which often works better ob weak) and only add TCS 1 or 2 if necessary. Especially with the pad I sometimes struggle getting a clean exit with proper traction if the car has too much power. Personally the pad sensitivity at 10 is too twitchy for me. I settled on 7.
If you're not using manual then definitely learn that first. In the replays watch for shift points. Also look for general shifting trends for a specific car like going to the absolute max deep into the red bar with some cars (e.g. the Nissan RC92 Gr.1) but massive short shifting with others. Also look for short shifting for stability reasons and to counter understeer in general. E.g. at the current online time trial at Road Atlanta.
Watching replays and then trying to implement what they do as best as I can is my personal way to success (gold in all single player content and most online time trials) as a mediocre pad player.
Try using as few assists as possible other than ABS (which often works better ob weak) and only add TCS 1 or 2 if necessary. Especially with the pad I sometimes struggle getting a clean exit with proper traction if the car has too much power. Personally the pad sensitivity at 10 is too twitchy for me. I settled on 7.
If you're not using manual then definitely learn that first. In the replays watch for shift points. Also look for general shifting trends for a specific car like going to the absolute max deep into the red bar with some cars (e.g. the Nissan RC92 Gr.1) but massive short shifting with others. Also look for short shifting for stability reasons and to counter understeer in general. E.g. at the current online time trial at Road Atlanta.
Oh this is massive. I struggled a lot with the Le Mans CE. Finally got gold on all sectors split over some sessions. Then tried the full lap and was hopeless.
I went back and repeated each sector until I could consistently gold it it at least get close almost every time. After doing that for all sectors I went back and started over. This time going to the next as soon as I got gold or very close to it which now usually was within the first 3 attempts. Then after quickly doing that I jumped into the full lap and got gold within 2 or 3 tries.
