Never thought a Bimmer could look this good...
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Find places for sliding-door rails on the following cars:
BMW Z4:
http://www.bmwusa.com/assets_client/vehicles/Z4/0328/ga_0328_f_side.jpg
Chevrolet Corvette:
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/images/gallery/gallery_major04.jpg
Ferrari 360 Modena:
http://www.ferrari.com/ferrari/images/360_modena/780x490/photo_side.jpg
Honda S2000:
http://www.hondacars.com/images/banners/2003/s2000/exterior_gallery/photo_08_popup.jpg
Kia Rio:
http://www.kia.com/images/rio/sedan/2003-24.jpg
Lotus Elise:
http://www.lotuscars.com/gallery/elisemotorsport/sideview2.jpg
Mazda Miata:
http://www.cetan.co.uk/albums/miata/aaq.sized.jpg
Mini Cooper:
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/autos.yahoo.com/i/02/COOPER1.jpg
Porsche 911:
http://www.schpaa.com/911/pictures/2001_porsche_911_carrera_4s-3.jpg
Volvo C70:
http://new.volvocars.com/models/c70conv/images/c70_conv_gallery_ext2_lrg.jpg
The point being that very few, if any, 2-door cars will work with sliding doors. If it's not the wheelarch, it's the engine bay, or the convertible top, or the low-curved bootlid. And you can forget 4-door cars, since that would require two types of door attachments (something that, on any economic car not being a minivan, is financially unfeasable). So while the Porsche Boxster may have 3 feet of space between the trailing edge of the door and the bumper, how much of that space is really usable for a sliding rail? And how much do you want to 'eff with the Elise's shape to accomodate a sliding rail?
BMW Z4:
http://www.bmwusa.com/assets_client/vehicles/Z4/0328/ga_0328_f_side.jpg
Chevrolet Corvette:
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/images/gallery/gallery_major04.jpg
Ferrari 360 Modena:
http://www.ferrari.com/ferrari/images/360_modena/780x490/photo_side.jpg
Honda S2000:
http://www.hondacars.com/images/banners/2003/s2000/exterior_gallery/photo_08_popup.jpg
Kia Rio:
http://www.kia.com/images/rio/sedan/2003-24.jpg
Lotus Elise:
http://www.lotuscars.com/gallery/elisemotorsport/sideview2.jpg
Mazda Miata:
http://www.cetan.co.uk/albums/miata/aaq.sized.jpg
Mini Cooper:
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/autos.yahoo.com/i/02/COOPER1.jpg
Porsche 911:
http://www.schpaa.com/911/pictures/2001_porsche_911_carrera_4s-3.jpg
Volvo C70:
http://new.volvocars.com/models/c70conv/images/c70_conv_gallery_ext2_lrg.jpg
The point being that very few, if any, 2-door cars will work with sliding doors. If it's not the wheelarch, it's the engine bay, or the convertible top, or the low-curved bootlid. And you can forget 4-door cars, since that would require two types of door attachments (something that, on any economic car not being a minivan, is financially unfeasable). So while the Porsche Boxster may have 3 feet of space between the trailing edge of the door and the bumper, how much of that space is really usable for a sliding rail? And how much do you want to 'eff with the Elise's shape to accomodate a sliding rail?
No it's not. All it is is a track and some wheels; normal household doors run on similar systems. It's extremely cheap and requires no structural support, either. And I did the Corvette, C70, and Rio, but left the others out because I have to leave. But I will indeed do them later if you like.
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advanR
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jesus christ. im shruggin you off because i dont want to argue with you. I dont have the energy for it. this is really dumb. you think your tough because you always start arguments on message boards.
In all of those pictures you posted there are wheels in the way. you could only have the track on the top. I dont think that would work well. not to mention that its only on the v70 and v06 i think, that they might have 3 fet behind them.
Build a model of one of these cars and propose it to an auto manufacturer. It might be fun. It seems like you have the free time.
In all of those pictures you posted there are wheels in the way. you could only have the track on the top. I dont think that would work well. not to mention that its only on the v70 and v06 i think, that they might have 3 fet behind them.
Build a model of one of these cars and propose it to an auto manufacturer. It might be fun. It seems like you have the free time.
Start arguments? Go check who posted their opinion here, and who started the argument. You say 'this is really dumb' because you haven't got any direct reply to what I said. If you seriously didn't have the energy to argue, you wouldn't have replied as you did to this.
That picture has the sliding door track closer to the wheel well that the C70. The Rio's track should've been above the fuel tank; I apologise, I had to edit that picture. And the Corvette's track should be a tad higher, which would put it on par with the Canadian Caravan seen above.
Whoa, another personal insult from someone who accuses others of making personal insults and has never made one himself. Now... reply and say "This is stupid" again. Or, in another of your fits of brilliance, reply to this thread with another personal insult that is in no way related to what I said.
Where do you live?
I'm sorry, but you're not seeing these cars in three dimensions. It's also evident you're not a structural engineer...or engineer of any kind. The side profile was to show how many cars had this "three-foot-requirement". If you knew how these cars looked in real life (or bothered to look at the other images on the respective websites), you'd see that if it's not the top profile that kills it, then it's the rear (or front) profile.
Take a good look at the police minivan you posted. Notice the number of pillars. That's right: A, B, C, and D. Now look back at, well, any car: A, B, C...no D. Why is this a big deal? Crash ratings. In order to protect passengers, doors need to be structurally sound. Thus they end up being heavy. Thus sliding doors need to have well-braced tracks. Thus only vans (with all four pillars) are able to accomodate sliding doors. And you can forget about forward-sliding doors, since unless you want to be driving a brick for a car, there will be no "A-minus-1" pillar.
I hate to seem so comabative, but as someone who's a professional engineer and has pretty good sense of three-dimensional forms...well, things like that just get under my skin. Especially when it has the potential to screw up beautiful automotive skins.
advanR
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how is that an insult? you take offense to that? i said it loks like you have a lot of free time because you come on gtp and make posts that take up half a page. and you liek starting arguments with me. you are a ****ing moron. go make your minivan car and stfu.
btw the personal attacks are now after reading many of your responses to me and i think i have a good feeling of the person that is behind your nickname. the personal insult you gave me before was the first response that you EVER gave to one of my posts.
you have made 3 pages of arguments because you dont want to back down from the original comment you made.
"besides, the most practical door is a sliding door from a minivan"
please dont crucify me because my quote is a little off.
you are hotheaded, you can never step down and accept yourself as wrong. "opinionated idiot" fits your description well.
btw the personal attacks are now after reading many of your responses to me and i think i have a good feeling of the person that is behind your nickname. the personal insult you gave me before was the first response that you EVER gave to one of my posts.
you have made 3 pages of arguments because you dont want to back down from the original comment you made.
"besides, the most practical door is a sliding door from a minivan"
please dont crucify me because my quote is a little off.
you are hotheaded, you can never step down and accept yourself as wrong. "opinionated idiot" fits your description well.
Again, I love your wonderful displays of facts -- for example, this is about the fortieth time you've claimed that I start arguments with you when you attempted three times in this thread to start an argument with me before I bit (13, 19, 24).
You find personal insults to be good responses? I suppose that explains your numerous personal insults, then. You just think you're doing a good job of life. Or, of Internet life.
I agree with you -- your personal attacks are 'now' after reading many of my responses. Brilliant statement. In other words, I make a response, then you make a personal attack. Fair, I guess, according to earlier logic.
Um, yeah, that's basically the point of debating a topic...
I was attempting to debate the points of my statement in my original post in this thread, and still no-one's come up with an argument against it: "The most practical door for a consumer is a sliding door." Yes, we can debate whether it is practical for an auto company to produce sliding doors on their cars but when it gets right down to it, nothing is easier for a consumer than a sliding door.
We can also debate what you define as hot-headedness and idiocy, however when you found it necessary to curse (unprovoked) in post nineteen and when you had so misinterpreted everything I'd said by post twenty-four that you became hostile, it's pretty clear who would win that argument. For the record, I know in your brain you're thinking, 'Yeah! I would win that argument,' and you could even post that - I know how it is to be a teenager and to be in personal arguments based purely on judgements, so I'll, uh, let you have that one.
Continue complaining about the length of my posts. I might attempt to shorten them (perhaps no capital letters would do the trick) so you can get them in before bedtime.
Now, please answer me: Where do you live? Even just a state or province name would be fine to satisfy the question.
The key factor in both the Sesame and possible 107 is that they're both 2-door models, and are both hatchbacks, which supplies the necessary structural support for a sliding door. I like hatchbacks (well, at least the R32 and Clio Williams), but unless you want to see a hatch-back NSX, there will be no sliding doors on anything with a standard trunk (or any mid- or rear-engined car).
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I know.
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