New GT40=Viper Killer
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WAAAAAY upwards of that number if I remember correctly!!
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good ole' american FAT in the design 
We're not that good at light cars, with performance 
We're not that good at light cars, with performance
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I'm left wondering what "the barette" is.. nope, don't believe I do 
Got any scans or links or anything?
Got any scans or links or anything?
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The 2002 RT/10 is 3450lbs, the GTS is 3500lbs. The GT40, if it is is a V8, will probably have less torque. It depends on displacement, really. Anywya, the fact that it's going to be an MR (if it's produced) means it's handling will be vastly superior to that of the Viper, so little bits of power and weight are moot points anyway.
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Vastly superior is up to the driver... I know several people that would kill themselves in a MR car... They are to used to FF cars that pull in turns, where MR SLIDE 
too bad they cant use the tried and true kit car skeletons, they build cars under 1000 LBs.....
Oh well, a mfg in the states just CANT have a car under 2500!
too bad they cant use the tried and true kit car skeletons, they build cars under 1000 LBs.....Oh well, a mfg in the states just CANT have a car under 2500!
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Despite it's rather hefty numbers on the scale and basic FR layout, the viper has some pretty good numbers when it comes to lateral grip. Because of this, I think the GT40 would have to be really well done to whip it, and that power/weight is going to be a point to consider.
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Please don't say that Ford is gonna be the American Super car, please, please.
Although I am a Viper fan, I have to admit, I don't think I like the new verus the old. ~sigh~
I just hope the corvette keeps improving. Chevy is talking about a 100,000 dollar vette in the works, something about yet again improving on the Z06. If that happens, Ford should remain in the backseat as far as supercars go, and I will be happy.
I wish the Viper would lighten up a bit, though.
Although I am a Viper fan, I have to admit, I don't think I like the new verus the old. ~sigh~
I just hope the corvette keeps improving. Chevy is talking about a 100,000 dollar vette in the works, something about yet again improving on the Z06. If that happens, Ford should remain in the backseat as far as supercars go, and I will be happy.
I wish the Viper would lighten up a bit, though.
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If you would read the rest of the thread, youw ould see my post above with the weights of the respective 2002 models.
Anyway, as far as handling goes, all else being equal, there are two deciding factors between the Viper and new GT-40.
One is weight. The GT-40 is supposedly 500lbs or so lighter, which is a pretty big advantage. We all know what a lighter car means in terms of handling.
The other is weight balance. The Gt-40, being mid-engined, has a much better weight balance then athe nose-heavy Viper. This gives it a more neutral stance through a variety of cornering situations.
A skidpad test is a good measure of a car's grip, but is by no means the be-all-end-all. Skidpad measures one type of cornering attitude, and that's it.
As far as handling being determined by the driver, well yes, it is. But, as I said before, all things being equal, the GT-40, if it's produced as claimed, would whomp the Viper in terms of handling simply because of the layout. Now, I really don't care what Hillbilly Hicks can do in a Viper that he can't do in the GT-40, I'm talking about in the hands of professional drivers with years of experience. As far as the cars themselves go, again all else being equal, the GT-40 has all the advanatges, save possibly the engine.
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1996 GTS dry curb weight: 3380lbs
1996 RT/10 dry curb weight: 3439lbs
about the same weight difference. add 175lbs of driver and you have roughly the same weights I listed earlier.
1996 RT/10 dry curb weight: 3439lbs
about the same weight difference. add 175lbs of driver and you have roughly the same weights I listed earlier.
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Hmmmm... I entered this thread late. But this car won't be built. Anyone can make a supercar Concept, but they never make it into production.
So the Viper will most likely go unchallanged.
IMO (concepts accounted for) the Caddy Cien rules everything.
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Yes.... Most don't go into production... But the fact that there has been so MUCH released about the concept GT40 suggests that it has a possiblity of going to production
You don't get much info on concepts usually, becuse they want the secret... It seems that they only release details once they are pretty sure they are going to produce the car...
You don't get much info on concepts usually, becuse they want the secret... It seems that they only release details once they are pretty sure they are going to produce the car...
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The GT40 has 500lb-ft torque.
@Magic:
Lets see if the original GT40's won like 4-5 LeMans races in the 60's why wouldnt the new one be an American Supercar
@Deathhawk:
So me a Saleen that can beat a Viper and I'll show you a beaten man. :burnout:
@MistaX:
Vector? You said Vector is an American supercar, no way, sure it was light weight and all but it had like an Olds engine, lightweight + Olds engine do not = an American supercar to me.
Now the Shelby Cobra that was a Supercar, 427 V8 that will kick some ass.
@ B Campbell: I think the supercharged V-8 of the GT40 is a perfect contender with the Vipers NA tuned V-10.
Here are the stats on the GT-40 according to Car and Driver
Ford GT-40
Vehicle type:mid-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door coupe
Estimated base price@100,000
Engine type:supercharged and intercooled DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, Ford EEC-V engine-control system with port fuel injection
Displacement.................................................328cu in, 5374cc
Power (SAE net)............................................500 bhp
Torque (SAE net)...........................................500 lb-ft
Transmission.................................................6-speed manual
Wheelbase...................................................106.7 in
Length..........................................................181.6 in
Width............................................................76.4 in
Curb weight..................................................3000 lb
C/D-estimated performance
Zero to 60mph 4.0 sec
Zero to 100mph 9.2 sec
Standing 1/4 mile 12.2 sec @ 116mph
Top speed (drag limited) 185 mph
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@MistaX:
Vector? You said Vector is an American supercar, no way, sure it was light weight and all but it had like an Olds engine, lightweight + Olds engine do not = an American supercar to me.
@ B Campbell: I think the supercharged V-8 of the GT40 is a perfect contender with the Vipers NA tuned V-10.
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The W2 had a Camaro engine. Not sure about the others.
Thanks for those stats, I was only going by what was mentioned in this thread. Yes, the engines are very even matches, but I still firmly believe that, as long as Ford makes the suspension even decent, the MR layout will give the GT40 mcuh better handling.
Vector? You said Vector is an American supercar, no way, sure it was light weight and all but it had like an Olds engine, lightweight + Olds engine do not = an American supercar to me.
@ B Campbell: I think the supercharged V-8 of the GT40 is a perfect contender with the Vipers NA tuned V-10.
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The W2 had a Camaro engine. Not sure about the others.
Thanks for those stats, I was only going by what was mentioned in this thread. Yes, the engines are very even matches, but I still firmly believe that, as long as Ford makes the suspension even decent, the MR layout will give the GT40 mcuh better handling.
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well, I never cared about the vector enough to know it was american, but what's wrong with olds engines? I'm no bigtime, GM fan, but they do power some formula style cars and could, as far as I'm concerned, power an "american supercar". it's also got stats good enough to comply and asthetics that definetly don't look like your typical american car.
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ALLRIGHTYTHEN :reallyodd
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