New New Chevy Lumina SS

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holden commodores and monaros are shipped over to the middle east, they change the name to chevy lumina
the better commodore models are lumina SS
and the monaros are lumina SS coupes

they are the same cars just rebadged
 
You are about to enter the world of Chevrolet Lumina. A world of style, performance, comfort and strength. A world where Lumina has evolved to let you experience the freedom you deserve. Proudly introducing the car that you have been waiting for. Lumina 2003. Engineered for the Middle East.
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Just right, then.

If Chevrolet brings back the Lumina, I'll eat my face off. The demise of said vehicle was one of the reasons 1999 was so damn cool.
 
Incidentally, Chevrolet doesn't need another coupe - keep in mind the original Lumina coupe was cancelled partly because the Monte Carlo was doing better than it in sales, and it was a new face they could put into NASCAR.

Personally, I don't think you saw a Lumina Coupe, but if I actually gave a damn I'd call up Josh's mother. Or something... :odd:

Holden Monaro will be sold in the US in '04 as the Pontiac GTO. Is that what you saw?
 
Originally posted by M5Power


Personally, I don't think you saw a Lumina Coupe, but if I actually gave a damn I'd call up Josh's mother. Or something... :odd:
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What... in... the... hell...?!:odd:
 
the chev lumina has been selling in middle east for years (actually holden commodores)

they wont be going to the US (exept for the monaro as the GTO)

even australia had a holden commodore lumina (special limited model)
 
if you look at these pics you can see that the Cadillac Catera was based off of the Holden Commodore

look closely at the roof and doors

the commodore shown is the 2002 Holden Commodore Acclaim
holden designed this body from scratch and came out in 1998
 

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Thanks for the info.👍
Too bad about "The Caddy that Zigs" I forget why it never took off. It seemed like a decent car. Doug?
 
Originally posted by Rat Bastid

Too bad about "The Caddy that Zigs" I forget why it never took off. It seemed like a decent car. Doug?
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I liked it - it was supposed to be aimed at the Infinit I30, Lexus ES300 and Acura TL (the low end of that segment) but Cadillac didn't realise that no buyer considering an Infiniti, Lexus, and Acura would also consider a Cadillac. Of course, that was 1997, and with the help of the Escalade appearing in everybody and his dog's rap video, Cadillac's image has made a bit of a turnaround - the Catera replacement, the CTS, is doing better than predicted by analysts.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
Incidentally, Chevrolet doesn't need another coupe - keep in mind the original Lumina coupe was cancelled partly because the Monte Carlo was doing better than it in sales, and it was a new face they could put into NASCAR.

Personally, I don't think you saw a Lumina Coupe, but if I actually gave a damn I'd call up Josh's mother. Or something... :odd:

Holden Monaro will be sold in the US in '04 as the Pontiac GTO. Is that what you saw?
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Nope it was a Lumina SS, It had an Arizona Manufacture License Plate on it. GM has one of their Proving Grounds in Arizona.

Kristof
 
Originally posted by frestkd
Nope it was a Lumina SS, It had an Arizona Manufacture License Plate on it. GM has one of their Proving Grounds in Arizona.

Kristof
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So maybe they were hot-weather testing it for later use in the Middle East. There's no reason for them to bring the Lumina to the US.
 
why would they test a australian car (for the middle east) when that same car has been tested many times in the Australian desert which is just as hot not if hoter that arizona?

the lumina model range for the middle east is a rebadged holdens made about 20kms from where i live

and i have seen the lumina SS's and SS coupes in the docks waiting to be shipped
 
Originally posted by VIPERGTSR01
why would they test a australian car (for the middle east) when that same car has been tested many times in the Australian desert which is just as hot not if hoter that arizona?
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Hell if I know, it makes no sense - even if they were planning on releasing it here, why hot-weather test it, since it's endured the same tests before in different markets?

Leading me back to my first belief that he didn't see what he thinks he's seen.
 
unless it was privately imported because the middle east versions are also left hand drive?
or they are used for head GM guys to have a good idea what the GTO will be like (once again the lumina not the monaro because the lumina is already left hand drive)
 
There are a quite a few of the 300kw (400) Holden GTO's now in New Zealand. They go really well for what they are. Though honestly I still don't mind making one look bad on the odd time or two. The body kits here and Aussie may be different then when they reach the states. Will be interesting to see what sort of kit the put on them for the USDM.
 
Originally posted by RazorGTR
There are a quite a few of the 300kw (400) Holden GTO's now in New Zealand. They go really well for what they are. Though honestly I still don't mind making one look bad on the odd time or two. The body kits here and Aussie may be different then when they reach the states. Will be interesting to see what sort of kit the put on them for the USDM.
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you are getting mixed up with the 255KW and 300KW HSV GTO and GTS

the one going to the US is 260KW Pontiac GTO's
australia wont get them

this is what your talking about
 

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Originally posted by VIPERGTSR01
unless it was privately imported because the middle east versions are also left hand drive?
or they are used for head GM guys to have a good idea what the GTO will be like (once again the lumina not the monaro because the lumina is already left hand drive)
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Manufacturer plates are only given to vehicle manufacturers, so it's probably not specially imported - the second version could be true, but if they're going to go to the trouble of importing a Lumina from the Middle East, why not just import some Monaros from Australia?
 
Yep that's the one, though one did come down to Torque Performance that had GTO on the bottom skirt instead of GTS. It threw 242kw at the wheels which is not at all bad for a stock standard car.

If they are getting the 255 or 260 as it is known in the states, I wonder why Holden didn't bother sending the 300kw one over. Though I would imagine Chevy wouldn't be too keen to have another car in its stable that close to the Vette in hp.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
So maybe they were hot-weather testing it for later use in the Middle East. There's no reason for them to bring the Lumina to the US.
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Well GM doesn't have a rwd car in the US market that competes with the Ford Mustang.

Kristof
 
Originally posted by M5Power


Hell if I know, it makes no sense - even if they were planning on releasing it here, why hot-weather test it, since it's endured the same tests before in different markets?

Leading me back to my first belief that he didn't see what he thinks he's seen. [/B]
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Yer wacked ! I know what I saw I followed that car for a little while and made sure what I saw. At first I thought it was a Pontiac GTO but it had Chevy emblems all over the damn thing!

Kristof
 
I wonder if it is possible to put a LS1 and T56 tranny in a Cadillac Catera? If the Cadillac Catera is an rebadged Holden Commodore it should be an easy swap.

Kristof
 
Originally posted by frestkd
Well GM doesn't have a rwd car in the US market that competes with the Ford Mustang.

Kristof
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Until they bring the GTO to the US.

Chevy already has a coupe, and they've already severed all ties with the Lumina name in all forums (Lumina sedan -> Malibu; Lumina APV -> Venture; Lumina coupe -> Monte Carlo).
 
Wait a minute. I remember reading that the Catrea was based on an Opel (Kadett?). It looks similar to the Holden, though. Maybe it's the same car all around. :confused:
 
Originally posted by Rat Bastid
Wait a minute. I remember reading that the Catrea was based on an Opel (Kadett?). It looks similar to the Holden, though. Maybe it's the same car all around. :confused:
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Vauxhall/Opel Omega. Same car all around. :)
 
You know, I can't even get interested in this thread even though you're in it, Doug. The Lumina is just that hopelessly dull.
 
Originally posted by Rat Bastid
Wait a minute. I remember reading that the Catrea was based on an Opel (Kadett?). It looks similar to the Holden, though. Maybe it's the same car all around. :confused:
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that opel is also based on the commodore body
 

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