Next England Manager

[Touring Mars]

(or 'The Great England Manager Fiasco' thread)

What with the World Cup coming up and all, there can be no better time for the gears of the Football Association to start grinding into action, and to start debating who should be the next king... sorry, I mean England Manager.

We now know when Sven will be booted unceremonious back from whence (and wherce) he came, but the big question is, of course, who is going to be mental/masochistic enough to step into the breach?

It looks like the current front runner is Martin O'Neill... but we will know the full list of candidates later this month...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4699436.stm

Who do you think should get (or take) the job?

 

[Dave A]

I don't know who it will be, all the managers that have been linked with the job in the papers have never taken their teams into Europe, barring Sam, which was once, once. And they think he should get the England job. Stuart Pearce may be a good choice but he's not experienced enough yet. You need to have managed a team in european competitions, if you haven't got that experience, your not qualified to be a national team's manager.

 

[Touring Mars]

Martin O'Neill took Celtic to the UEFA Cup final in 2003, where Celtic lost to Jose Mourihno's Porto in extra time, 3-2. (Porto and Mourinho went on to win the Champions League the following year... ) O'Neill's European credentials with Celtic were otherwise pretty solid as well - including drubbing Ajax in Amsterdam and coming back from 2 down against Juventus in Turin, only to lose the game through a very dubious penalty decision... I'm starting to sound biased now...

 

[Lee]

Knowing our luck, it will probably be Gerard Houllier Although he did win the UEFA Cup with Liverpool back in '03.

I'd vote for Martin O'Neil though for sure, didn't he get Leicster City into the UEFA Cup via winning the back then Coca-Cola cup in '97? That's damn impressive.

 

[livemusic]

I didn't know Felipão left Portugal. Or would he leave it for England? Anyway, I hope someday he comes back to our national team, Parreira doesn't really do anything...

 

[Race Idiot]

Please god, please make it Scolari. Or Guus Hiddink, or someone good! Also Giovanni Trapattoni just got fired from Stuttgart.

At the moment I don't think i'd want to give the England job to any of the potential English candidates.

What i'd potentially like to see is Hiddink as the main Manager and Stewart Pearce to be the Coach. Potentially like the Sven/Mclaren thing.

Although i'd like to see McLaren as far away from the England setup as possible.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Sam Allardyce for me, he knows how to make a team play.


And hes English, foreign players aren't allowed to play for other countries, why let foregin managers manage them..

 

[Race Idiot]

Sam Allardyce for me, he knows how to make a team play.


And hes English, foreign players aren't allowed to play for other countries, why let foregin managers manage them..

Big Sam does seem to cop a lot of critiscism about Bolton being a boring team to watch. But then you look at the players he has and the amount that they have cost him, he does allot with only a small amount. I'd like to see what he could do with the tallent of the England squad.

I don't see why we can't have a foregin manager though, I mean if we won the world cup with a foregin manager I doubt anyone would complain.

I think it's just too much of this 'THE SUN' and 'ENGURLAND AND PROUD TO BE ENGLISH OMG ENGLAND R DA BEST' attitude. We aren't the best and we aren't gods gift to football and I just don't think the current crop of managers should be pushed into the job. I'd rather have an experienced foregin manager that an english manager can learn from for the moment, instead of just throwing someone in with no international experience whatsoever.

I can't see Martin O'Neil ever managing England, also he still has some issues with his wife. And I can't see him wanting to take such a high pressure job like the England manager in his current state.

Edit: JOSE MOURINHO FOR ENGLAND MANAGER!!!!!

Edit: Crap no, no no no no

Edit: ALEX FERGUSON FOR ENGLAND MANAGER!!!!

 

[Dave A]

I'd hate to see Sam given the England job, what's he ever done that's actually worth anything. He's played one game in Europe, he's got no international experience. He hasn't won anything, he can get a team stable in the Prem, but that's it, that's all he's proven he can do. Actually that's a lie, the other thing he's proven he can do is complain, and whinge about injuries and such. They should be looking for one of the best managers in the world to take over the England job, it's meant to be prestigeous, not offering it to the first second rate person available.

Sam for England manager, hope not.

Jose Mourinho would be a kick ass England manager, he's an arrogant prick, but you need that sometimes. Alex Ferguson would be ace as well, he's a stobborn prick, but you need that sometimes as well. We need a manager that's done something, foreign or English, I don't care, whatevers best for the team.

 

[Lee]

Jose Mourinho would be a kick ass England manager, he's an arrogant prick

And yeah he would be an ace manager but I don't think the FA can offer a larger wage

 

[Dave A]

People like him and Ferguson arn't available point blank, but there are some top rate managers about who could be hooked if you look around further than Bolton.

 

[Race Idiot]

People like him and Ferguson arn't available point blank, but there are some top rate managers about who could be hooked if you look around further than Bolton.

Maybe if ManU lost every game possible and Fergie got sacked maybe. But it's still pretty much an imposibility I recon.

Jose said he wants to manage internationaly in 10 years or so and more than likely he'd get the Portugal job anyway.

I know, SOUNESS FOR ENGLAND MANAGER!

Oh god I can imagine that now, I think i'd have to change nationality if that ever happened.

 

[Poverty]

Barcelona manager

 

[ExigeEvan]

Maybe if ManU lost every game possible and Fergie got sacked maybe. But it's still pretty much an imposibility I recon.

Fergie won't leave untill he has a heart attack. The 'devoted' fans love him too much.

I think they should keep with a foreign coach. Mainly because I don't think England can win the World Cup with a heavily English style of play.

 

[livemusic]

Then by all means, go with an English manager.

 

[Touring Mars]

Big Sam does seem to cop a lot of critiscism about Bolton being a boring team to watch. But then you look at the players he has and the amount that they have cost him, he does allot with only a small amount. I'd like to see what he could do with the tallent of the England squad.

I don't see why we can't have a foregin manager though, I mean if we won the world cup with a foregin manager I doubt anyone would complain.

I think it's just too much of this 'THE SUN' and 'ENGURLAND AND PROUD TO BE ENGLISH OMG ENGLAND R DA BEST' attitude. We aren't the best and we aren't gods gift to football and I just don't think the current crop of managers should be pushed into the job. I'd rather have an experienced foregin manager that an english manager can learn from for the moment, instead of just throwing someone in with no international experience whatsoever.

I can't see Martin O'Neil ever managing England, also he still has some issues with his wife. And I can't see him wanting to take such a high pressure job like the England manager in his current state.

Edit: JOSE MOURINHO FOR ENGLAND MANAGER!!!!!

Edit: Crap no, no no no no

Edit: ALEX FERGUSON FOR ENGLAND MANAGER!!!!

You should send this post to the FA 👍

 

[The Internet]

Alan Shearer.

That'd put a spoke in everyone's wheel.

 

[Dave A]

He's got zero managerial experience, a definite no.

 

[ExigeEvan]

I don't think he even has all his coaching certificates yet.

 

[Dave A]

He doesn't, I think he's officially a trainee coach at the moment.

 

[Poverty]

Alan shearer was overrated. I dont see why they always want to get ex football stars to be managers. Just cause theyre good at football doesnt mean theyre good at being a manager.

At the moment I dont see any english managers I would want to run the england squad. They should go for another forum with highly proven credentials.

 

[Dave A]

It's because they know the game, they know the tactics, they know the excuses, they have the experience as a player. Ex-footballers are the best football team managers. Look at Alex Ferguson, he's one of the best managers English football has seen. As for Alan Shearer being overrated, as what, a footballer or a manager, because as a footballer he was one of the best footballers we've ever had, he's not as good as he was now, but he's still good. And as a manager, he isn't one yet, nor has he ever been, so how would you know.

 

[Race Idiot]

It's because they know the game, they know the tactics, they know the excuses, they have the experience as a player. Ex-footballers are the best football team managers. Look at Alex Ferguson, he's one of the best managers English football has seen. As for Alan Shearer being overrated, as what, a footballer or a manager, because as a footballer he was one of the best footballers we've ever had, he's not as good as he was now, but he's still good. And as a manager, he isn't one yet, nor has he ever been, so how would you know.

The majority of managers are ex footballers, I think it's very hard for someone with no experience of playing football to actually become a manager for a professional club. I mean even Mourinho played for a professional club in portugal for a while, until he realised he wasn't good enough and decided to concentrate on the manegerial aspect of the game. I mean if you were a more prolific player career wise your probably going to be put under more pressure, due to being a 'big name' in football. Well more pressure than you would if you didn't have much of a playing career, or weren't some spectacular superstar.

I forget, did fergie have a big playing career? I remember watching the documentary on him, but man that was like 3 years ago.

Newcastle have been doing pretty well as of late though, so as long as they keep playing well and they get someone decent in for a mentor to shearer I recon he could turn out allright. The only problem I have with shearer is that he has these invisible elbows that tend to land in the face of the oppositions defenders.

 

[Dave A]

Oh yeah, Shearer can be nasty with thoes elbow's. Imagine him and big Dunc (D Ferguson) having a mid match dissagreement . Alex had a decent career, he was bought by Glasgow Rangers for a record price, he wasn't a superstar like Best or anything like that but he was obvously good enough to get big clubs interested in him. He platyed in the Scottish leagues most of his career.

 

[livemusic]

It looks like they still want Felipão to get the chair after the World Cup. I just read in a brazilian website that Brian Barwick went to Lisbon yesterday to talk to Scolari about it.

 

[Touring Mars]

Yep, it's all over the papers here - Scolari is to be offered the worst job in the world... I hope he knows what he's letting himself in for

 

[El Gigante]

I knew it would be Scolari, he's clearly far more talented than any English manager. All that stuff about the FA wanting an English manager and then they go and pick a foreign one.

 

[Dave A]

I think they did want one, but who can they get, we don't have any that are really qualified to manage an international squad. None of them have any real experience outside of our League, Sam Allardce managed his team for a few games in Europe once but that's it.

 

[ExigeEvan]

OOww Gary Lineker doesn't seem to think Scolari is too good a choice. And as a full time hater of all English sports team I have to say I agree. So even more reason he should have the job

 

[MistaY]

Mang I hope he gets the job, it was either him or Hiddink, but he's going to russia after australia.

I think what we should do is have Scolari as the manager and then Mourinho as the team coach!