Nissan Gtr Black Edition '12

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Hey can someone help me make my drag car better I keep losing to most other gtrs

Nissan Gtr Black Edition '12

Max power 954 hp
Performance Points 639
Distance 249.7

All Parts And Chassis Reinforcement
Ballast 0/0
Aero 0/0

Transmission
Final 2.500
Top speed 124 Mph/ Top Left 166mph
1st Gear 4.511
2nd Gear 3.764
3rd Gear 2.881
4th Gear 2.337
5th Gear 1.979
6th Gear 1.678

LSD
60/60
60/60
5/5

Torque Split 45/55

Suspension
Ride Height -20/40
Spring Rate 20.0/ 17.0
Dampers Extension 1/10
Dampers Compression 6/7
Anti Roll 1/1

Wheel Alignment
Chamber Angle 0.0/0.0
Toe 0.00/0.00

This tune is for Indy I need help making this tune better, Thanks
 
I don't have one, but that one doesnt seem too bad, your Suspension is good, I don't know about the tranny but it doesn't seem too bad either. Maybe they tree you?
 
What 1/4 time's are you running with that set up?

Everything seems OK. Looks like with a good launch you'd still get 8.9x ??? As the other guy said, maybe the other GTR's just tree you? I run one of the fastest GTR's about - an 8.909 yet I will still lose here and there due to bad ghost lag, or simply gettin tree'd.

I can obviously see one or two flaws in your transmission, but it's nothing you wouldnt be able to work out yourself with a little bit of trial and error. You can add me and i'll happily run along side you if you find it less soul-destroying than Speed Test... ;)
 
KraigA
What 1/4 time's are you running with that set up?

Everything seems OK. Looks like with a good launch you'd still get 8.9x ??? As the other guy said, maybe the other GTR's just tree you? I run one of the fastest GTR's about - an 8.909 yet I will still lose here and there due to bad ghost lag, or simply gettin tree'd.

I can obviously see one or two flaws in your transmission, but it's nothing you wouldnt be able to work out yourself with a little bit of trial and error. You can add me and i'll happily run along side you if you find it less soul-destroying than Speed Test... ;)

I'm getting 8.869 with this tune but I lose to some people on online lobby's

We had 3 races and he beat me In 3 I'm sure I didn't get treed
 
That's with SRF?

Got to be cause the fastest here is at .90x..... If you are indeed that fast you should have nothing to worry about just practice your launching methods or maybe rearrange your controller setup or get a better internet connection.
 
try front extension 2
front compression 4
also make the make top speed at 164-165 final gear 2.525 ish
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try front extension 2
front compression 4
also make the make top speed at 164-165 final gear 2.525 ish
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I dunno thrasher, I think it just depends on the run... I'm running 2.500 final drive with a 3.475 pre flip (same as the OP) and it still puts out this...

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I'll maybe try changing my final now that I have seen it still gives decent times.. but, have you tried 2.500?
 
Yeah I use manual for every other car except the Black Edition because it is harder to run manual on this car :(
 
Just out of curiosity will my time go down if i run my Black Edition in manual. I run 8.912s with auto

same here ninja, but im afraid id break my new controller attempting it.

It's all in the launch. I find that you can (on an optimal run) get a better launch with manual, but I still find the auto nails every shift just as well as you ever could in manual, and is therefore more consistent.

My best auto launch, 0-60, is 1.776, where-as my best manual launch is 1.773. If you nail everything perfectly, with manual, then there is a potential to get about 0.003 off your time...

Best Auto: 8.911
Best Manual: 8.908

This ofcourse is just my opinion and others may disagree. I dont have the best time but its still pretty decent. 👍
 
Can someone please send me a full tune that gets under 8.915 please I'll send gold and silver chrome paint the spl 125 dlc tradable go kart in purple 0/0/0 and 2 drift cars and 1 car of your choice
 
Can someone please send me a full tune that gets under 8.915 please I'll send gold and silver chrome paint the spl 125 dlc tradable go kart in purple 0/0/0 and 2 drift cars and 1 car of your choice

Dude please stop... Us giving you tunes isnt gona teach you anything. Its better if you experiment with everything so you can see what improves and slows down the car. There's plenty of base tunes that will get close to that time you want. The rest is up to you to achieve.
 
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KaroSVTR
Dude please stop... Use giving you tunes isnt gona teach you anything. Its better if you experiment with everything so you can see what improves and slows down the car. There's plenty of base tunes that will get close to that time you want. The rest is up to you to achieve.

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KaroSVTR
Dude please stop... Us giving you tunes isnt gona teach you anything. Its better if you experiment with everything so you can see what improves and slows down the car. There's plenty of base tunes that will get close to that time you want. The rest is up to you to achieve.

KaroSVTR I'm sorry for asking for a tune I find tuning a drag car hard, I'm trying to learn how to tune a drag car off of teamshmo drag tuning guide so far I only learned how to make the suspension and LSD settings tuning a transmission is like insanity to me after you sent me this message I felt really bad and tryed tuning it my self and I only made it slower and slower I spent like 7 days trying to make it better. Can you please teach me how to tune the transmission

So far I only learned how to make a drift car

And Ive tried many things to make my gtr faster but nothing worked for me I tried removing all aero parts ( I'm currently using everything other then the spoiler) I tried change the split to other numbers etc
 
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KaroSVTR I'm sorry for asking for a tune I find tuning a drag car hard, I'm trying to learn how to tune a drag car off of teamshmo drag tuning guide so far I only learned how to make the suspension and LSD settings tuning a transmission is like insanity to me after you sent me this message I felt really bad and tryed tuning it my self and I only made it slower and slower I spent like 7 days trying to make it better. Can you please teach me how to tune the transmission

So far I only learned how to make a drift car

And Ive tried many things to make my gtr faster but nothing worked for me I tried removing all aero parts ( I'm currently using everything other then the spoiler) I tried change the split to other numbers etc

Dude I will help you. I am not as good as Karo but I'm pretty descent. If you want ill give you a tune similar to mine.
 
ninja99
Dude I will help you. I am not as good as Karo but I'm pretty descent. If you want ill give you a tune similar to mine.

Thanks for the extra hand ninja.
Ya help the brother out to your best of knowledge.
If he still doesn't get it lemme know ill try to explain it in a different way.
 
Thanks for the extra hand ninja.
Ya help the brother out to your best of knowledge.
If he still doesn't get it lemme know ill try to explain it in a different way.

Thing is tho, I sent this guy a de-tuned version of mine, which can, and does run 8.922-8.925 with ideal launch... I know this, because its the exact time I done before I sent it to him. I dont know what he done with it but it seems like he just wants a better one....

To Ferarri, look buddy, the tunes you've been given are good enough for you to play around with and see how each change you make effects your speed test results... just being spoon-fed the absolute best tune will never "teach you" as you will never know how to get there with a new car from scratch.

This is how I tuned my car... run your current set up, say you get 8.930.. then change one of the gears ratio by .0050, do another run, if the time goes to, for eg, 8.935, then you know that change was erroneous. Try changing it 0.050 in the other direction, do another run, if your run improves to 8.925, then you know you're fixing that gear. Keep doing it until you reach a peak before it declines... then move onto the next gear, do the same with that, etc... till you've peaked all gears to give you the best transmission set up. Ofcourse all of this is assuming you selected a good Final Gear prior to flipping.

It's not an exact science, but I started at 8.972 and got my tune down to 8.908 after 2 or 3 hours. I know that seems alot of time and effort, but it literally took me 50% of that time, just trying to go from 8.915 to 8.908. You could get from 8.99 to 8.92 in a short space of trial and error time, and that time is still good enough to beat 99% of all GTRs with the best reactions and launch.

Most people would just leave it at 8.915 and not commit any more time to shaving a meaningless 0.007 off there time, I was just wanting to prove to myself if I was capable to tune a car and I was "learning" how to do this along the way. This was the first car I drag tuned, and that was only one week ago. Thats right, just two weeks ago, my GTR 12 was track tuned and running 9.2s! I've now managed to apply my general understanding of drag tuning to several cars, and while they may not be the best, they're all better than the slowest leaderboard entries on this site. So they're competitive enough.

But irrespective of that, the tune I provided you with, is currently capable of running 8.925 with a good launch. Dont think shaving 0.010 off your 1/4 will make you instantly beat others who run 8.916-8.925s... reactions count for more than anything, probably up to a massive 0.100 difference in some occasons, especially when combined with ghost delay lag. IMO.

I'm running an 8.908 now, and Im from the UK, yet at late nights, I'll join a US lobby and lose to some GTRs here and there, to find out they run 8.92s... I lose due to a combination of reactions and ghost delay due to the server i'm in... nothing to do with the tune.

I'm telling you this because I just dont want you to think that just because you run, eg, 8.915 vs a guy who runs 8.925, you'll win every time... cause there is too many variables with every run, not to mention that the actual distance 0.005 makes wouldn't even be noticeable in an online game. And another big point is, in my experience, especially with the younger aged players, they simply lie about the times they run and this will delude a newbie drag tuner into thinking he needs even faster tunes than required. The amount of times I see little guys saying they run 8.8s with their GTR, and get smoked, is unreal. It's as if the general rule is noobs deduct 0.050 off their actual times.

Others may disagree with the above as there is alot in it, but it's just my take on it, from a brand new players perspective.

Basically, Ferarri, your tune is a great starting point for trial and error tuning. But also, your tune at the moment is already a good drag tune in its own right, even if you don't do any tweaking of your own. TH, Even a 8.945 car would be competitive enough for the majority 1/4 tuned GTRs. Besides, many people who may spend literally hours tuning a car from scratch, to a top 10 leaderboard time may not always want to just give this exact tune out, especially to someone whom they may not know. Appreciate that... ?

You'll always get help from me buddy, I accepted your add to the PSN and always willing to point you in the right direction, but honestly, it will feel better if you achieve the times by yourself. The most important thing is tho, that you will actually "learn" how to tune in the process. 👍

Also, lastly, with regards to speed test, you can run the same tune 3 times in a row and get different results every time. Just remember the stats for your best run, and when tweaking, only compare the absolute best time again, post-tweak to evaluate if the tweak worked or not. PM me if you're still confused.

Cheers.
 
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The tune that you gave me runs 8.75 and the first drag race I did with it online I got beat by a ford gt the 2 Enzo's and 1 viper
 
The tune that you gave me runs 8.75 and the first drag race I did with it online I got beat by a ford gt the 2 Enzo's and 1 viper

The tune that I gave you DOES run an 8.922-25. The EXACT tune I gave you. It's not my fault if you cant drive it. You even messaged me it got 8.944 on your first speed test (down from 8.969) via the PSN, and I still have that message in my inbox, so either you're now trying to discredit me or you've mixed up your own tune with mine. Make a lounge just now, I'll join with that exact same tune that I sent you, and we'll see the difference the same tune makes with a different driver reactions. I also told you running in manual will always be better for speed tests too...

PS, the fastest Enzo's in this game run 8.99s... so the average Enzos will be running 9.0-9.1s. If you're losing to them, it further enforces my point that, with bad reactions/ghost lag, the faster car can still lose. As proven in your own statement. 👍 Even if the world #1 Enzo joined your lobby, his car would still be slower than the average 1/4 Black Edition tune... It's then down to the driver, and I can't even get my head round the fact that you're losing to Ford GTs in an 8.94 Black Edition... again just enforcing my point.

EDIT: I just noticed you deleted me from PSN too... How mature lol. You do realise no one is having a go at you, we're actually helping you, when we dont even need to. But its whateves lol. Some advice in future tho, don't bite the hand that feeds you. 👍 Good luck with your tuning. :|
 
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The tune that you gave me runs 8.75 and the first drag race I did with it online I got beat by a ford gt the 2 Enzo's and 1 viper

if you read his post it says 8.925 WITH THE IDEAL LAUNCH and also he says that LAG, CONNECTION, REACTION TIME AND MORE CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE! so i suggest you reread that part.
 
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