Nordschleife Prize Race Mon 3rd Jan 9:30 GMT

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Nurburgring Nordschleife


5 Laps
414 BHP
Any Tyres
Any Weight
ANY CAR
Light Penaltys and damage

NO SKID RECOEVERY (requested, lets see how this goes)





Room Number : 1472-6118-3830-2744-3536
 
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Sure wish I could attend these, but seeing as how I don't get home from work until after 1030p GMT, closer to 11p GMT, it's really unfortunate.
 
Thanks for the room-number. Sorry about the hurry-up, I just realised I forgot about the GMT. I thought the race was to start in about 10 min. It's not for another hour though. I'll join the room later!
 
Seriously what's the point in this race if no one races clean?

Only ProPersian and KamyKaze1098 are capable of passing people cleanly or driving properly. The rest smash and bash their way past, they try to cause accidents at every available opportunity.

Just now at the end of the race, my tyres are obviously fading, Kimi2108 is faster cause of fresh tyres, but instead of waiting for a clean chance to pass on the massive straight, he just smashes me off the track. Why is that allowed?

The guy called Nethereal smashed me off deliberately at least twice, I finally managed to pass him when he smashed me off the track (again) but he spun himself in the process.

By the time I got clear (10mins into the race) Kamy had an incredible lead that I could never close with a broken car (a car which runs 10 seconds per lap faster normally).

I would like to see dirty drivers banned from this race. Most of them just quit anyway, all they do is make the entire race like a lottery. If you qualify first and don't have a false starter/lagger/rammer infront of you, or someone who rams into the back of you on the first corner, then you have pretty much won.

It's obvious that GrahamTurismo, myself, ProPersian, KamyKaze1098 and some others have the pace to compete with one another cleanly without driving like maniacs. It's a shame that every race see's most of us taken out on the first lap.

Of course I appreciate the races being organised, but can we have just a little bit of quality control? Investing an hour in a race only to be taken out by a kid who quits or thinks he can get away with it isn't really all that fun.
 
Kami - congrats - add me on psn so i can send you the cobra

That was a decent race - i managed to start dialing in my lapping on the fifth lap though :P
Was nice tho, good pace from kami, didnt leave much room for error.

Good job to the 6 that stayed and finished.


"The guy called Nethereal smashed me off deliberately at least twice, I finally managed to pass him when he smashed me off the track (again) but he spun himself in the process.

I would like to see dirty drivers banned from this race. Most of them just quit anyway, all they do is make the entire race like a lottery. If you qualify first and don't have a false starter/lagger/rammer infront of you, or someone who rams into the back of you on the first corner, then you have pretty much won."

Why are you omitting how you rear ended me before a corner in the first place but i managed to hold on?
Did you not quit yourself?
I finished 5/6 but i still ran the course, with an overweighted and outpowered car i might add.
 
people who race dirty ARE banned regularly

but it is very hard for me to see exactly what happened and of course i have to hear both sides of the story
 
people who race dirty ARE banned regularly

but it is very hard for me to see exactly what happened and of course i have to hear both sides of the story

You have to see the replay to see what happened. It's not like you don't have a fast forward button.:dopey:

Lol.

Now seriously, we can join a group from the regulars and do races in private lobbys.
 
Why are you omitting how you rear ended me before a corner in the first place but i managed to hold on?
Did you not quit yourself?
I finished 5/6 but i still ran the course, with an overweighted and outpowered car i might add.

You were warping all over the place, half the time your car was sideways in a barrier with sparks flying off it, then reappearing back on the track, then doing the same to the opposite barrier. It was pretty impossible to tell what line you were taking.

I waited and waited behind you for this very reason. I do remember running into the back of you on the second fast section (after the 3rd gear corner that goes under the bridge). This was again a result of you warping all over the track. I exited the corner with much more speed than you and was attempting to pass cleanly. I had to brake because your car suddenly appeared in front of me, although I still nudged you, you certainly didn't crash.

After that moment I did finally get past you and you took the first opportunity to steer directly into my rear, sending me into a spin and breaking yet more parts of my car.

The contrast is, I do all I can to avoid contact (even to the point of braking and staying behind someone) and when it does happen it's entirely accidental (and largely due to people warping all over the track, or driving in a dirty/wreckless manner). You clearly crashed into me deliberately on two occasions, whether you did it because you thought I rammed you or not still doesn't excuse that you did it deliberately.

I did not quit this race, I decided to stick it out this time and see where I ended up once I passed all the maniacs who love to deliberately ram and the lagging/warping drivers who cause accidents due to being in five different places on the track at once.

It took me around ten minutes to get into third and have some clear track away from such people. At this point I could finally assess my lap times and see if I had a chance at catching the leader (Kamy). His car was running a couple of seconds per lap faster than mine so I knew I wouldn't catch him unless he made a mistake, I just continued to drive for the fun of it.

Yesterday I did quit from the race for the same reasons that ruined today's race. Receiving a five second penalty at the start because someone was afk and didn't move was a bad start and the ramming was even worse afterwards, since I received multiple penalties for people either deliberately braking on a straight for no reason (collision) and being shunted off the track (shortcut).

The other day when I won, it was half because I managed to weave through the wrecks on the grid and get into the first corner before anyone else. This meant I got to take the early fast section at full speed. Had I not made any mistakes no one would have caught me as just being ahead at the first corner is worth 20-30seconds. That race ended up a good one, with myself and ProPersian duking it out for multiple laps (cleanly) with no crashes or accidents between us despite being right next to one another and exchanging places multiple times over multiple laps.

Racing cleanly is possible, you just have to put the effort in.

This post ended up quite long, but there's nothing to miss out :)
 
You were warping all over the place, half the time your car was sideways in a barrier with sparks flying off it, then reappearing back on the track, then doing the same to the opposite barrier. It was pretty impossible to tell what line you were taking.

I waited and waited behind you for this very reason. I do remember running into the back of you on the second fast section (after the 3rd gear corner that goes under the bridge). This was again a result of you warping all over the track. I exited the corner with much more speed than you and was attempting to pass cleanly. I had to brake because your car suddenly appeared in front of me, although I still nudged you, you certainly didn't crash.

After that moment I did finally get past you and you took the first opportunity to steer directly into my rear, sending me into a spin and breaking yet more parts of my car.

The contrast is, I do all I can to avoid contact (even to the point of braking and staying behind someone) and when it does happen it's entirely accidental (and largely due to people warping all over the track, or driving in a dirty/wreckless manner). You clearly crashed into me deliberately on two occasions, whether you did it because you thought I rammed you or not still doesn't excuse that you did it deliberately.

I did not quit this race, I decided to stick it out this time and see where I ended up once I passed all the maniacs who love to deliberately ram and the lagging/warping drivers who cause accidents due to being in five different places on the track at once.

It took me around ten minutes to get into third and have some clear track away from such people. At this point I could finally assess my lap times and see if I had a chance at catching the leader (Kamy). His car was running a couple of seconds per lap faster than mine so I knew I wouldn't catch him unless he made a mistake, I just continued to drive for the fun of it.

Yesterday I did quit from the race for the same reasons that ruined today's race. Receiving a five second penalty at the start because someone was afk and didn't move was a bad start and the ramming was even worse afterwards, since I received multiple penalties for people either deliberately braking on a straight for no reason (collision) and being shunted off the track (shortcut).

The other day when I won, it was half because I managed to weave through the wrecks on the grid and get into the first corner before anyone else. This meant I got to take the early fast section at full speed. Had I not made any mistakes no one would have caught me as just being ahead at the first corner is worth 20-30seconds. That race ended up a good one, with myself and ProPersian duking it out for multiple laps (cleanly) with no crashes or accidents between us despite being right next to one another and exchanging places multiple times over multiple laps.

Racing cleanly is possible, you just have to put the effort in.

This post ended up quite long, but there's nothing to miss out :)

Warping one moment (when you're behind) , but perfectly fine to smash during your pass attempt (after you rammed megoing INTO a corner?
enough bs for me
take it to private message - thanx
 
i need to explain what i wrote? really?
i really dont think it takes any considerable amount of common sense to realise the hypocrisy in what he is saying/accusing me of.
i will gladly continue this in private message
 
I dont care what he said i wont to know your point of view and then i will think about what both of you have said
 
Warping one moment (when you're behind) , but perfectly fine to smash during your pass attempt (after you rammed megoing INTO a corner?
enough bs for me
take it to private message - thanx

Just because you are warping does not mean that your car isn't there to be hit. The problem with warping is that other people have no idea where your car actually is, so it becomes extremely difficult for them to get anywhere near your car without a collision. Unfortunately in a race if you are much faster than someone you have to pass them, but I'm not the kind of person who will ride over the grass to do so. I had to try and pass you to have any chance of keeping up with Kamy, each time I tried there was a collision, not because I was being reckless, but because I have no idea where your car is.

Since I have no idea where your car really is as it's bouncing around all over the place, you cannot blame me for ever hitting you as even if I tried to ram you deliberately, there is no guarantee your car would be where the game displays it.

I don't see a reason to take it into PM since I have nothing to hide.

My memory of the race is not 100% perfect and nor is yours, but I can certainly remember the moment I described in my previous post.

I have no idea if the replay that R88 has will show the warping that others experience. I don't think he particularly wants to sit there watching the replay multiple times from different angles just to try and work out what happened at one single point during the race.

I know for a fact that he will not see me deliberately ramming anybody. The only time my car ever swerves on the road is when it is broken and that's almost always the result of someone else pushing me off the track or causing an accident.

The replay should certainly show the point in which you deliberately turned sharply into my car in order to take me out though.

In racing there are often accidents, all you can do is race sensibly and be aware of those around you. I've shown multiple times that I can race closely with people who race cleanly and have no lag. I don't really want any GTP members banned from this race, I just want people to be more considerate and raise their standards when it comes to racing with other people.

Most of all I am frustrated with the lack of consistency in the physics of the game when comparing offline and online performance. My cars are all far quicker offline than they are online. I actually tested them yesterday just to see what they were capable of since others were in the possession of some seriously fast cars. Before the race today I missed a chance to qualify purely because I had to retune my suspension at the last minute as the offline settings made it incredibly twitchy online.

What settings do you use for the server R88, I know you can choose between standard/very high when it comes to racing quality?
 
Just because you are warping does not mean that your car isn't there to be hit. The problem with warping is that other people have no idea where your car actually is, so it becomes extremely difficult for them to get anywhere near your car without a collision. Unfortunately in a race if you are much faster than someone you have to pass them, but I'm not the kind of person who will ride over the grass to do so. I had to try and pass you to have any chance of keeping up with Kamy, each time I tried there was a collision, not because I was being reckless, but because I have no idea where your car is.

Since I have no idea where your car really is as it's bouncing around all over the place, you cannot blame me for ever hitting you as even if I tried to ram you deliberately, there is no guarantee your car would be where the game displays it.

I don't see a reason to take it into PM since I have nothing to hide.

My memory of the race is not 100% perfect and nor is yours, but I can certainly remember the moment I described in my previous post.

I have no idea if the replay that R88 has will show the warping that others experience. I don't think he particularly wants to sit there watching the replay multiple times from different angles just to try and work out what happened at one single point during the race.

I know for a fact that he will not see me deliberately ramming anybody. The only time my car ever swerves on the road is when it is broken and that's almost always the result of someone else pushing me off the track or causing an accident.

The replay should certainly show the point in which you deliberately turned sharply into my car in order to take me out though.

In racing there are often accidents, all you can do is race sensibly and be aware of those around you. I've shown multiple times that I can race closely with people who race cleanly and have no lag. I don't really want any GTP members banned from this race, I just want people to be more considerate and raise their standards when it comes to racing with other people.

Most of all I am frustrated with the lack of consistency in the physics of the game when comparing offline and online performance. My cars are all far quicker offline than they are online. I actually tested them yesterday just to see what they were capable of since others were in the possession of some seriously fast cars. Before the race today I missed a chance to qualify purely because I had to retune my suspension at the last minute as the offline settings made it incredibly twitchy online.

What settings do you use for the server R88, I know you can choose between standard/very high when it comes to racing quality?

It has nothing to do with hiding anything, and everything to do with not subjecting people to this senseless banter.
thanx.
 
I use lowest quality and voice chat turned off

this is to maximise racing quality while sacrifcing graphics i assume


I have thought about what you two have written and because i did not save the replay for tonight that no action will be taken

I usually record the replay for posterity more than anything but did not this time.


I myself am sick and tired of being shunted off the road by reckless drivers and so action must be taken at one point
a few people have already been banned from these races for bad driver or dirty driving and so i must now think about recording every replay and requesting that any incidents the drivers involved must try remeber the time it happened so i can use it as reference because i just do not have the time to look at the replay so many times as the race does last 45 minutes
 
I myself am sick and tired of being shunted off the road by reckless drivers and so action must be taken at one point
a few people have already been banned from these races for bad driver or dirty driving and so i must now think about recording every replay and requesting that any incidents the drivers involved must try remember the time it happened so i can use it as reference because i just do not have the time to look at the replay so many times as the race does last 45 minutes



To be honest I joined one of your rooms and was knocked from 2nd place completely off the track of Nurburg by the 2nd corner. I haven't been back since for this reason specifically. I know it happens sometimes, but there was literally no care taken in that race to avoid collision, and it makes it all the more frustrating when right before the race someone says, "okay, clean race guys".

By contrast, I joined the Super GT room that was posted today in this forum, and there was very little contact at all in any of the races. I understand that the Ring is a narrow course and challenging at that, so I expect the occurrence of minimal contact to a degree. But you might benefit from laying down some rules regarding overtaking, which is the approach that the Super GT races I participated in took today.

I would rather have a race where I placed lower and everyone agreed to have a clean race (ie. If you aren't presented with the opportunity to overtake cleanly and without risk to the other driver, you don't try to overtake), than one where I placed very high as the result of people getting knocked off the course due to recklessness and trying to overtake in situations where it does nothing but take the competitiveness out of the race, especially when you consider that the majority of these incidents occur within the first lap, if not the first few corners of the race.

This is just my opinion, and you can take or leave it at that, but at the finish of the vast majority of the races today there were very few upset drivers and the majority of the post-race comments were made specifically in support of the clean racing that was enjoyed by everyone.

Not looking for an argument. Best of luck in future events. :)
 
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