Observation on day/night cycle

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Referring to the car coming across the alleged TG test track in the E3 video.

As far as I can tell you cannot see the headlights reflecting on the road. This makes me think it will be a fixed time and will not get darker. If you remember previous GT games the headlights have never cast light on the road, which in my opinion is not realistic representation.

Therefore I would be careful about assuming day/night cycle driving will be included in GT5.
 
I just really hope we don't look too much into a single video and make crazy inferences about the full game. It's something to think about, referring to this idea you have, but I would not let this confirm or deny what will be in the final product.
 
SrRd RacinG - my point exactly. I was saying dont assume there will be day/night racing just because you saw a car coming across a runway at dusk.

Just putting it out there. I didnt say there wont be night racing...
 
Mubble... whats there not to understand? There has been people suggesting the dusk race on alleged TG track confirms day/night cycle racing. I was pointing out this doesnt mean its in for sure.

If its too hard for you to understand I am not sure how to explain it any clearer... maybe try reading it again or googling the words for their meanings if your still not sure.
 
Mubble
Sorry, I don't understand how there's even a topic here, based on a 1 second clip of footage.
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Fans of Gran Turismo are stuck in the doldrums between games, with next to no tangible information on the next game, save a trailer and a few scattered interviews, and as such have developed a severe cabin fever. This cabin fever leads to a large number of forum topics discussing a number of things that will be forgotten by the release date, punctuated by a lower number of gems.
 
Vincent
Fans of Gran Turismo are stuck in the doldrums between games, with next to no tangible information on the next game, save a trailer and a few scattered interviews, and as such have developed a severe cabin fever. This cabin fever leads to a large number of forum topics discussing a number of things that will be forgotten by the release date, punctuated by a lower number of gems.
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This. This.
 
S13180sx
As far as I can tell you cannot see the headlights reflecting on the road. This makes me think it will be a fixed time and will not get darker. If you remember previous GT games the headlights have never cast light on the road, which in my opinion is not realistic representation
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Just because you don't have the headlights reflecting on the road, does not mean that there will not be any day/night cycles. Its like saying the cars won't have any tires, because there are no tire marks on the track!

PD are famous for 'kooky' lighting effects anyhow. Fire up GT1, and see how they coded in the brightness of street lights (as you drove past them), on SSR5! :lol:
 
S13180sx
Mubble... whats there not to understand? There has been people suggesting the dusk race on alleged TG track confirms day/night cycle racing. I was pointing out this doesnt mean its in for sure.

If its too hard for you to understand I am not sure how to explain it any clearer... maybe try reading it again or googling the words for their meanings if your still not sure.
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My point is (before you act all silly and aggressive).... the car on the TG track is seen at dusk. You could therefore argue, if you're able to set the race start to either day 'or' night, then a dusk screen grab actually indicates the time of day does in fact cycle.

However, I personally believe the day/night won't cycle. I can't imagine there being settings like on Burnout Paradise where you can set the day/night cycle to run a complete cycle in 2mins, 10mins, 1 hour etc either.

I think there'll be a day/night/dusk/dawn option for each track, and that's it. But like 90% of opinions on here, it's just speculation, and not worth starting a new thread over.
 
I don't think it will cycle...I'm pretty sure actually.
But of course there will be numerous conditions to drive in.
 
i dont think there will be 24 hour races. even if you cut it down to like an hour, i couldnt go on the same track for an hour in the same car.
 
mu51im
i dont think there will be 24 hour races. even if you cut it down to like an hour, i couldnt go on the same track for an hour in the same car.
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The most I've done was 2 hours on Spa in GTR2, with the day-night cycle compressed into that time. I raced for about an hour then handed over to the AI driver for a while, who was significantly worse that me, so I just waited for him to lose a couple of places and took over myself and finished the race, which was about another hour.

Even if time is compressed from 24 hours into 2 hours, its still pretty cool as you race with the sun going over you, then into the night. You'll be driving almost blind for a few laps with only headlights to guide your way (the Spa in GTR2 had some lighting, but no all over the track), then have the sun in your eyes for a few laps, etc etc.

But I dont race enduros that often, so I'd be happy even if it were just preset night races and preset day ones with no cycling. The only time I race enduros is after I've become familiar enough with a car, and normally in any given racing game I'll only become truely familiar with a few cars.
 
It has been confirmed that day/night and weather cycles won't be in GT5. If they were then GT5 would be the "definitive" console racing game this generation and we've already been told that it isn't. Thus no day/night cycling or dynamic weather changes. :)
 
Zathra5_
It has been confirmed that day/night and weather cycles won't be in GT5. If they were then GT5 would be the "definitive" console racing game this generation and we've already been told that it isn't. Thus no day/night cycling or dynamic weather changes. :)
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Huh? You know this how? I've never seen anything statement from Sony or PD saying that day/night cycles and dynamic weather will not be included in GT5, or that it will be included in GT5. But if you have a source from Sony or PD, please post a link as I enjoy being wrong...
 
Zathra5_
It has been confirmed that day/night and weather cycles won't be in GT5. If they were then GT5 would be the "definitive" console racing game this generation and we've already been told that it isn't. Thus no day/night cycling or dynamic weather changes. :)
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OK, one thing first, how in the bleep do you know this? I think that you're just some nobody who has beef with PD/SCE and wants to stop this discussion of day night cycle. Another thing, why do people act like they know everything. You should know what happened to the last person who did that. (2pac)

R.I.P 2Pac and Biggie Smalls!
 
ST-2
Huh? You know this how? I've never seen anything statement from Sony or PD saying that day/night cycles and dynamic weather will not be included in GT5, or that it will be included in GT5. But if you have a source from Sony or PD, please post a link as I enjoy being wrong...
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It was a joke (see the smiley face). The turn 10 guy said that Forza3 is the definitive racer of this generation. Thus there can't be any features in GT5 that would make it the definitive racer.

edit: "OK, one thing first, how in the bleep do you know this? I think that you're just some nobody who has beef with PD/SCE and wants to stop this discussion of day night cycle. Another thing, why do people act like they know everything. You should know what happened to the last person who did that. (2pac) "

same reply for this post. stop taking things so seriously.
 
Well, top gear track or not I suspect the clip is of a possbile drag raacing option.. GT4 had it's Las Vegas drag strip - set at night. Maybe GT5 is just going to use the TG test track as a drag stip also... This is speculation, but two LM cars racing at full tilt either side of a defined illuminated line?

FWIW, I hope the day/night cycle is dynamic, but lets be real, It rarely happens in the real world other than in 24 hr races and possibly some NASCAR races, how many other races would you guys expect to see at night, or even at dusk?

I wanna race under the lights at Bristol, and a full 24hrs at the ring day 'n' night!

**edit, I don't mean to imply the TGTT is only there for drag races and speed tests, just that for this game that is the location they will use.
 
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matski
FWIW, I hope the day/night cycle is dynamic, but lets be real, It rarely happens in the real world other than in 24 hr races and possibly some NASCAR races, how many other races would you guys expect to see at night, or even at dusk?
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There are actually quite a few racing events which see the transition from day to night. From well known ones (Daytona 24 Hour, Nürburgring 24 hour to name a few) all the way down to lesser known ones (from the Dubai 24 Hour all the way down to club and national events). There are also plenty of races ran during the night (Singapore GP and Qatar MotoGP for example). Besides, Gran Turismo a game, just because there isn't a large majority of races ran at night or with a day to night transition, it doesn't it can't.
 
just a thought.... what if the game does not have dynamic light changes.......instead what ever current real life conditions are is what you get when going to real life tracks. Example: I want to drive one night at Le Mans, well its dawn and clear skies. Maybe we will be given a choice to take a standard condition like Le Mans in GT4 or I can take real life conditions. In GT5P there is a rotating list of tracks with temps and weather. Any idea if this is for show or if it will usable info in GT5?
 
Just don't predict all those things just from one trailer. Why wouldn't it be possible to add a day and night cycle? Look at games like GTA for example. The headlights are reflecting in the road too. We all have to wait for what's coming up. When expecting to much of GT5, you will be disappointed, when not expecting and thinking of all the good things and the bad things, I'm sure you will be completely satisfied!:sly:
 
Zathra5_
It was a joke (see the smiley face). The turn 10 guy said that Forza3 is the definitive racer of this generation. Thus there can't be any features in GT5 that would make it the definitive racer.

edit: "OK, one thing first, how in the bleep do you know this? I think that you're just some nobody who has beef with PD/SCE and wants to stop this discussion of day night cycle. Another thing, why do people act like they know everything. You should know what happened to the last person who did that. (2pac) "

same reply for this post. stop taking things so seriously.
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Fair enough, didn't see the smiley face :)
 
Mubble... if you think its pointless, dont comment. How is it any less valuable then countless other threads on this site asking what car will be on the cover, or whether Porsche will be in the game. The list is endless really isnt it? And until we know there will be speculation. If you dont like it, stay out of the forums. As there is next to no information circulating people will continue to make observations...

On another topic, remember Las Vegas drag strip. Headlights never lit up the road at all. So its my guess there will be static conditions, similar to previous GT games. I was kind of hoping that it could start raining as the sun comes up for example...

In Flight Simulator it actually downloads the whether for your location. If you were to take off at your local airport and it was raining in real life, it would be raining in real life... thats pretty awesome but I dont see that being part of GT.
 
matski
Well, top gear track or not I suspect the clip is of a possbile drag raacing option.. GT4 had it's Las Vegas drag strip - set at night. Maybe GT5 is just going to use the TG test track as a drag stip also... This is speculation, but two LM cars racing at full tilt either side of a defined illuminated line?
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I don't get why some think this seems like drag racing... An airfeild with two Le Mans cars? So wrong IMO.

Drag racing to me is a real drag strip with two drag cars. But I'm afraid you never know what wierd ideas PD come up with...
 
Didn't Yamauchi say that they were working on day / night cycles?

Or did he say that they were working on display tracks during different times of the day, meaning that you have select a predefined time before starting the race?
 

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