Oh great, another pack of raging mothers.

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I removed the letter.

This is the angry letter I sent to:

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I couldn't resist, honestly.
 
It's good that you contacted them, but have you ever heard the axiom "You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar"?

I think your letter would have more impact if you were less abrasive and presented your rebuttal in a calm and civil manner.

For example, don't call them freaking morons and raging mothers. And mentioning 'female emancipation' (in the 80's?) really makes you look ignorant. In fact, the opening sentence alone would only serve to add more fuel to their arguments; you're obviously a gamer and look at how you react.

The second paragraph is much better, but again calling them evil won't get you anywhere. The third paragraph is much better because you're backing up your statements. However, calling American society screwed up, again, doesn't help. Also, the word you wanted was 'nonexistent' - make sure you clear this stuff up before sending letters like this out, people have a field day with that.

The third paragraph is kind of weak. Ignoring the misused words, the statement is pretty loose in and of itself. Providing some examples as to why their arguments are wrong would help here. Tell them where they're incorrect, and correct them, rather than just slamming them with another insult.

And again, at the end, a bunch of insults. In fact, the letter makes you sound something like an irratrional, very angry young man - probably just what these people made gamers out to sound like. I wouldn't be surprised if they used your letter to bolster their arguments.

The best thing you could probably to to actually HELP the situation and educate these people would be to construct a knowledgeable, well written, polite letter, and send it to them with an apology for this one.

edit: hereis a quote from their main page: "We have received an overwhelming amount of letters on the topic of videogame addiction and violence. While the majority of the responses were sent in by feral young children and pre-teenage gamers..." now just think about your response to them.
 
Fact: Videogames have been proven to prevent the development of the proper social skills and interaction needed for a long happy and enjoyable life. Young gamers are prone to being burdened with depression and sadness all throughout their life

Fact: Health studies have found that even those casual gamers suffer from low self-esteem and self-pride compared to their athletic and more socially accepted peers in their same age group. Young gamers were found to be more likely to become lifetime gaming addicts and becoming social outcasts.

Danger: Do videogames make people violent?
Yes. What was once a debatable question, is now fact. New research has concluded that videogame violence and behavior related violence are in fact closely related

Symptom: Poor school grades
A typical report card by a troubled videogame player:

Computer Education Excellent
English Poor
Mathematics Poor
Science Poor
Social Studies Poor
Physical Education Poor

I had a look at that site, and it's just too hilarious for words.
All their accusations are based on "Studies" and "Researches".

But where are those Studies? Where are those researches?
If they proof their right that videogames are evil, why didn't they publish them on their site?

BTW, nice letter, Snoop:tup:
 
Heh, that was the conclusion I came to after reading the site. None of the actual 'research' is available, and all their claims are either fuzzy or based on that 'research'. The key is that they claim the arctiles are currently unavailable due to editing. Why would they be editing other people's articles.

Plus, the site just looks too good. Especailly the small strip of screenshots across the top of the main page.
 
It's a great thing to communicate and educate people. However, you need to do it in a certain way if you want to be taken seriously. Just think if the tables were turned, and someone sent you an email like that; what would you think of them? That was meant to be constructive criticism, intened to help you if you ever felt like doing something similar in the future. You can roll your eyes, or you can wise up and learn to take advice.
 
casual gamers suffer from low self-esteem and self-pride compared to their athletic and more socially accepted peers

Oh man, that's golden, we need 'studies' to point out common sence, it's a good thing a good prank can make fun of those damn idiots that need to run tests to show that food and laxity are both things that lead to being fat and stuff like that. I just liked that quote, here, I'll take poetic license on it:

[Poetic license]casual gamers suffer "self-esteem" and "pride" compared to their accepted peers [Because we say so][/Poetic license]
 
B Campbell is right - rebuttal letters should be written with no emotion at all. I've written more than a few in my time, and always remember to eliminate any emotive statements. The tone should almost border on cold - stick to the facts.

Anyhoo - look, these things, like all things in life, are all about balance. You can't let these things take over your life (says he who runs over 40km a week :embarrassed: ). People get obsessed with things.
 
Yeah, our english teacher taught us that any sort of persuasive writing should be written without any emotion to show that it isn't biased.

Vat_man... Do you like running?

OA
 
Originally posted by duo17
Vat_man... Do you like running?

Ironically, not particularly! That said, I do like the raised level of fitness, and the increased rate of fat loss it provides - and you do get a real sense of acheivement when you've completed your run even though you really didn't want to go out.

Sometimes, you do get those special cool mornings where you get a beautiful flow on and just mentally lose yourself - that does give a bit of a rush.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Ironically, not particularly! That said, I do like the raised level of fitness, and the increased rate of fat loss it provides - and you do get a real sense of acheivement when you've completed your run even though you really didn't want to go out.

Sometimes, you do get those special cool mornings where you get a beautiful flow on and just mentally lose yourself - that does give a bit of a rush.

I'll take your word for it.

My friend, on the other hand, lives for running. He runs 10 miles everyday (he puts everything out of the way just to run), and he tries to get me into it (I run 3 miles 5 days a week...). I like to think of him as a "freak" so to speak. I just think its abnormal to run that much.

OA
 
10 miles every day! That is excessive - I just can't back up like that, I get too sore in the shins and calves. I'm actually in the third week of trying out a 14 week marathon training schedule, and I have run Sat and Sun - that's been a bit of a battle.

The miles ramp to around 40-50 per week which I'm not looking forward to - but we'll get there!
 
Yeah, his shins are made of steel or some new undiscovered alloy. Good luck on your running. I'll be sitting on my couch and watching TV dreading Lacrosse conditioning.

OA

PS: Sorry about making this thread go way off topic.
 
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