Oldsmobile Toronado 1967

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Powertrain: 6968 cc , V8 , 380 hp / 4800 rpm , 644 Nm / 3200 rpm , 3- Turbo Hydra-Matic automatic , Front wheel drive

Dimensions: Length 5359 mm , Width 1994 mm , Height 1341 mm , Weight 2118 kg

Performance: Top speed 217 km/h , 0-100 km/h 8,5 sec

And Yes I know "We already have this car in GT" but it's not original ...
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Ken was my boss at Saginaw Steering Gear. He had a lot to do with developing the FWD system on this beast. He had an immaculate showroom quality version in his garage at home. I really liked working for him and thought I'd mention his name. These great cars are built by thousands of nameless engineers, so I named one great engineer.
 
380HP FF car, my worst nightmares are real.

Add the fact that it weighs over two tonnes and that about half of that weight is probably from the Viper-esque 8.2L V8 sitting between the front wheels, and you have the recipe for possibly the worst handling car in GT history.
 
How would This car handle? :eek:
380HP FF car, my worst nightmares are real.
Add the fact that it weighs over two tonnes and that about half of that weight is probably from the Viper-esque 8.2L V8 sitting between the front wheels, and you have the recipe for possibly the worst handling car in GT history.
It has a interesting handling haha it's all I can say :P
 
I guess Jay Leno changed it to RWD for a good reason or two.

I owned a Ninety Eight Regency Coupé (RWD of course, pheew) and love Oldsmobile since then. The Toronado is a beautiful car and I´d love to have an original version of it in the game, despite or even because of the weird handling it would probably come with.
 
I guess Jay Leno changed it to RWD for a good reason or two.

I owned a Ninety Eight Regency Coupé (RWD of course, pheew) and love Oldsmobile since then. The Toronado is a beautiful car and I´d love to have an original version of it in the game, despite or even because of the weird handling it would probably come with.
Yeah because he had higher plans for the engine than the front wheel drive was good for ;)
 
..........600+ nm handled by front wheels. I know that Toronado is a good looker, but never really understood the idea of front-driver with a hulking V8.
 
..........600+ nm handled by front wheels. I know that Toronado is a good looker, but never really understood the idea of front-driver with a hulking V8.

Same reason why the Mini was front wheel drive. Better interior packaging.

Performance was secondary. Tertiary, even, styling would have probably come before it.
 
Same reason why the Mini was front wheel drive. Better interior packaging.

Performance was secondary. Tertiary, even, styling would have probably come before it.
.................:lol:
Hehe trust me when I say this, "interior packaging" probably wasn't mentioned at all during the board meeting that spawned this car. Besides these barges were massive outside, as well as inside too. C'mon, this is GM we are talking about.
 
Just like with the 1967 Eldorado, the Toronado was FWD for no other reason than to see if it could be done and to help buyers show off ("Oh, your Thunderbird is RWD? That's cute"). Ford almost had the 1961 Thunderbird be FWD for the same reason, but couldn't get it to be reliable enough. JKgo is correct: the inherent advantages that it brought (better handling in the poor traction conditions, marginally more interior space) were practically irrelevant compared to the talking points that the marketing department could put on the sales brochure. It wasn't until the 1980 redesign of the E-Body cars (Riviera, Eldorado, Toronado) that any lip service towards FWD being legitimately beneficial came into play.


Remember, this was a car that took up a bigger footprint than a long wheelbase S-Class (and was pretty much the same size as the second generation Riviera, which was still RWD) but had less usable interior space than a 1980s Civic wagon; in a market segment where a guy bought one and then drove it everywhere with two people at most in the car. The Oldsmobile engineering staff had been tinkering with the idea of FWD car since the late 1950s (essentially because they thought it was pretty cool, but also because they thought they could replicate the Corvair's packaging benefits but avoid the Corvair's handling problems), and the E-Body platform the Riviera sat on was the only car with a high enough profit margin to absorb the extra engineering costs to actually sell it.
 
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Just like with the 1967 Eldorado, the Toronado was FWD for no other reason than to see if it could be done and to help buyers show off ("Oh, your Thunderbird is RWD? That's cute"). Ford almost had the 1961 Thunderbird be FWD for the same reason, but couldn't get it to be reliable enough. JKgo is correct: the inherent advantages that it brought (better handling in the poor traction conditions, marginally more interior space) were practically irrelevant compared to the talking points that the marketing department could put on the sales brochure. It wasn't until the 1980 redesign of the E-Body cars (Riviera, Eldorado, Toronado) that any lip service towards FWD being legitimately beneficial came into play.


Remember, this was a car that took up a bigger footprint than a long wheelbase S-Class (and was pretty much the same size as the second generation Riviera, which was still RWD) but had less usable interior space than a 1980s Civic wagon; in a market segment where a guy bought one and then drove it everywhere with two people at most in the car. The Oldsmobile engineering staff had been tinkering with the idea of FWD car since the late 1950s (essentially because they thought it was pretty cool, but also because they thought they could replicate the Corvair's packaging benefits but avoid the Corvair's handling problems), and the E-Body platform the Riviera sat on was the only car with a high enough profit margin to absorb the extra engineering costs to actually sell it.
You have more than one point there :) Good my friend!
 
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